Using a large overshoe primarily with a 27.5, fits a little loose. I've tried them with a 28.5 and it is a bit snuger but still good
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Using a large overshoe primarily with a 27.5, fits a little loose. I've tried them with a 28.5 and it is a bit snuger but still good
Thanks waxman. The thought of taking a knife to $600 liners is terrifying me but I think it needs to be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by waxman
I get it. It was a pretty simple procedure all in. The honeycomb is only stitched around the outside, then just make sure your knife isn't deeper than the honeycomb is thick. If you are good with scissors and have an industrial set you could probably cut the circumference pretty easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by adrian.bee
Whomever said use regular laces thanks.
Workhorses felt great today. Benefit is these stay tied tight. Whereas the ZF cinch loosens.
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Funnily enough, after thinking about it for almost a year I committed unlicensed surgery on mine a couple days ago. Felt like the high stiff back pushed against my calves and messed with my tibial angle.
Underneath the honeycomb material was a thin layer of foam and a relatively soft and relatively thick plastic sheet. Figured out that a pair of micro-shears worked pretty well for cutting into it and fluting the cuff like the Freeride.
Of course, Aqua Seal to seal the new cuts.
For those of you that run custom footbeds and zipfits which one of the two do you feel made the bigger difference in your skiing? Beds or zips?
Zips but both important. If you already have footbeds and are getting Zips, make sure you have your existing footbed fit/trimmed/whatever for the new Zipfit. I did not at first and it mattered.Quote:
Originally Posted by FloridaSnow
X2. Same for me. Beds for aligning my leg, zips for locking my foot in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvan
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i have fairly average feet. Normal arches and no issue areas. UseQuote:
Originally Posted by Sylvan
Super feet inserts and they work fine in my stock liners. Would like customs but don’t absolutely need them yet so was leaning to the ZP first and then have the customs built for the zp.
thanks as mentioned use super deets atm but was considering trying the Zf insert until having customs built for the zf linersQuote:
Originally Posted by DoubleBogey
At least for me, my foot shape is substantially different with my foot beds vs. without. All boot work and liner molding is necessarily done with the footbed in place. If I got my zipfits dialed and then added a foot bed, I'd have to start from square one. My foot is also ~1/2 a mondo size shorter with my foot beds.Quote:
Originally Posted by FloridaSnow
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I’m having issues breaking boot board doing racer exit with my zips in my hawx ultras. I use a boot horn on the way in but obviously not out on the way out. I have high insteps so it’s a tight fit. Any suggestions? Are the shock stopper boards more durable than the white foam ones?
zipsQuote:
Originally Posted by FloridaSnow
Zips
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thinking of leaving this way. Going zips now with the super feet inserts I have. I do have slightly more issue with heel hold than I have with footbed issues. So feel like the zips will give bigger results now than bedsQuote:
Originally Posted by Sylvan
Anyone by chance use ZF in a k2 recon 130? Specifically the boa if so? What did you choose liner wise.
If you have a foot that fits a aftermarket footbed well, Zips will be a much bigger upgrade than a custom footbed. Customs beds are great for weird feet and getting that last ten percent “extra” but aftermarket beds are more than enough for most.
Barefoot trail running, zipfits, cold dips, BREATHING and organic vodka are good for your skiing. Foot beds weaken you.
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got some insole heating elements for xmas. yay!
Any wisdom on installing these in my Zipfits so I can still laced-liner entry without destroying the cables?
I have two sets of zips, World Cup and GFT. Ideally I'd be able to swap between.
Thanks!
How much performance difference is there between the Gara and the GFT? This is for a Lange Free Tour that will see a lot of resort use and some side country. I also have a pair of Lange RS 130 with new stock liners. I don't ski these as much, but I'd use the ZF in both boots.
There's good info buried in the skitalk zipfit thread, but its really buried. The one's those guys were using they cut a slit in the back of the heel for cords.
If you can wait a week, I can send photos of how Olympic Bootworks set mine up. The cut is on the inner edge of the liners. That said, you’re not going to be switching the heating element between two liners—to do it right, I think it needs to be a semi-permanent job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judo Chop!
I have a question on an issue that might not necessarily be specific to zipfit but thought I'd get input here. I get shin bang on my left shin but Zero on my right. My right has good even pressure along my entire shin while flexing my knees forward. My left seems to have a pressure point mid way up my shin. any thoughts? Would reheating the liner maybe help move things around a bit to even it out? I'm guessing this isn't a zipfit issue since it's only on one of my feet but I suspect you guys may have insight on what I could try. I've tried re buckling the boot but I can't say that really helped. Thanks in advance.
You could try adding cork to the tongue.
I'd try heating it up, and maybe sticking something long and skinny up into the cork pocket in the tongue to kinda stir it up a bit. I find that the cork gets tightly compacted after it's been skied for a while and it doesn't always re-form easily. So if you heat it and fluff it up a bit, it'll do a better job of remolding to the shape of your shin.
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Figure out where the pressure point is. Use your fingers and thumb to massage the cork away from that spot on the tongue. No need to heat, room temp is fine for moving cork around.Quote:
Originally Posted by fencejack
I ran with Hotronic warmers for a season in my Freeride’s with the cable exiting from the reinforced tab on the heel. I covered the cable out of the heel with gaffe tape and then a strip of slippery PTFE tape.Quote:
Originally Posted by Judo Chop!
I’m sure my stepping into the shell racer style stressed the cable a bit, I shredded multiple cables and battery mounts from crashes.
I gave up on the warmers and went to heated socks.
Corbetts started carrying zipfits. If you’re in the states you can score an amazing deal. I grabbed the workhorse for $430 usd.
I have GFT that I use in my inbounds and out of bounds atomic hawx ultra boots (narrow last) (I have two pairs of boots). I had to put about 6 tubes of cork in my GFT liners to get the right fit. A couple of questions:Quote:
Originally Posted by FloridaSnow
1. Is it worth getting a second set of zipfits (Gara) to dedicate to my resort boot?
2. The quiz says I should get the Gara LV - however given that I had to put a bunch of cork into my GFT - does it make more sense to get the HV? (instead of spending $60 on additional cork). Is there any difference between gara HV and LV besides cork?
Theres no difference other than cork, around 20% more in the HV. It'd hard to recommend something with knowing very little but if you're skiing in a low volume boot the Gara LV would likely work. I think it's easier and more precise to add cork than to remove it but your mileage may vary. Where did you have to add the cork in the GFT?
Another thing to consider is that the Workhorse, although HV, is slightly less overall volume than the Gara HV because of the leather inside and out as opposed to the pleather or whatever material it is on the Gara's and Freeride. That would be a good option if you are concerned the Gara LV wouldn't enough volume.
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ankle and tounge. I want to say I put a full tube in each tounge.
Good to know on workhorse, however they are sold out in 26.5. Basically buy it for life liner.
Yeah, I've only fondled a GFT but they seem smaller all over compared to a Gara. In the GFT thread guys were adding multiple tubes if I recall correctly, so not uncommon.
What's the general consensus on the Corsa? I have a fairly low volume foot but have had occasional instep pressure issues with my garas in a lv mach 1. The Corsa and a doberman type boot has always intrigued me. Was there a recent update to the Corsa? Hard to tell, but some reviews alluded to changes.
Was messaging Jeff about the newest Corsa a while back, mostly minor updates including quick laces and velcro for spoiler. According to Zipfit, Corsa is a very nice liner but very thin through the heel, so you can get some heel-on-boot-plastic action during landings and compressions. Interestingly, he recommended GFT for my low volume feet in low volume beer-league boots, with the benefit that you can use them in your touring boots too. Haven't gotten the chance to try it out myself yet though. I have the Sidewinder liners in my tele boots and the leather interior is real real nice
Good thing I snagged the 26.5 earlier today lolQuote:
Originally Posted by NBABUCKS1
The major update was when they changed from ‘Corsa’ to ‘Corsa 92’.Quote:
Originally Posted by Westcoaster
The Corsa 92 is supposedly much lower volume, has removable tongue.
The last of the Corsa 92 is also much narrower than all the other Zipfits.
I have what my bootfitter described as “a very narrow, very low volume foot, but not abnormally narrow or low volume” and going from a Lange RX130 LV to a Lange RS140 with Corsa 92 has been amazing. First boot where I’ve had to do work around the midfoot and in the ankles and heel pocket to make it work.
Have the new Corsa in some Head WCR140 which is a pretty good combo. I use a fixed cuff spoiler over the Velcro; less snag on WC entry. I had to add a ton of cork but got the fit dialed. Leather liner is awesome. I have a low volume foot and was on the fence between Gara LV and Corsa. Figured I’d need to remove cork from one or add cork to the other. Removing cork way more annoying but obviously cheaper. Narrower last seems to play well with those 95/96mm boots but I think I saw a rumor that ZipFit was coming out with a model slightly beefier than current Corsa but below Gara.
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Question for someone more enlightened than me: I’m having an issue with a new pair of Gara LVs in some Nordica Promachine 130 shells and wondering if anyone can help me out.
The fit of the shell and cork in the liner feels great with no hot spots or issues. However, when I’m skiing perpendicular to the fall line and flexing the boot (ex. traversing) it feels like the knee & ankle of my downhill ski are flexing downhill instead of towards my ski tips (aka. moving more parallel to the fall line than my ski tips).
When this happens, it puts uncomfortable pressure on the outside of my downhill foot from the midfoot to the 4th toe. It also forces my hips to twist downhill (tracking my knee and ankle) instead of letting my hips sit in line with my ski tips. These sensations exist when initiating and carving a turn as well but the traversing example above helps isolate the issue.
This issues is worse in steeper terrain and less pronounced in flat terrain. It’s moderately worse on my left leg (1/2 size smaller foot and non-dominant) than my right leg.
Notably, this does NOT occur with the stock liners in the boot. I have played with cuff alignment and that doesn’t really change the problem. In a pair of Lange RX 130 shells with less room in the ankle (especially the medial side) this problem gets worse.
Any suggestions or ideas about what’s going on here?
Sounds like you need more cork around your ankles to keep them from tilting in the boot.