Freeride World Tour

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Originally Posted by grskier

Part of the story telling is getting people to relate. Instead of Sniper Landing when the land on the rock with one of two skis, say, man, you can be off by a millimeter and it can make a bad day, glad they skied away from that.

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An excellent point! (I'm totally stealing this line for the next comp). Thanks gr

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Originally Posted by Clownshoe

I do a bit of announcing for junior freeride comps around here.

It’s a tough balance for the announcers to keep the viewers informed, hype all the riders up, and find the line between calling the run in a generally positive manner but also “keeping it real”.

The viewers can see when someone takes a conservative line, blows a turn, eats shit, etc. The announcer doesn’t need to bury the athletes at the same time.

For the top riders who throw down and stand out it’s easy to call. Everyone watching can see they’re killing it. The stoke is real. For the middle of the pack and lower riders, it’s can be hard to call. After 20-30 athletes drop the same 10 foot cliff, it’s tough to find new ways to talk about it

“Jimmy Smith is slowly skiing around the big airs, taking the easy way down. That was likely a bottom 5 run.” is never appropriate for the announcer to say, even if it’s true and everyone knows it.

Definitely in the junior comps we hype the kids up regardless of how they’re doing because you’d have to be a heartless prick to blow the kids up on the mic.

But I’d say even in the top level comps the announcer is trying to be a hype man at the same time as calling the action. Maybe there’s a portion of the viewers that would prefer brutally honest commentary without the fluff but that’s generally not what the sponsors/organizers want. It’s a bit of a buzz kill to the event if the announcer is being a downer and crushing the athletes on the mic.

Plus on the FWT, the announcers are on the road with the athletes, probably friends with most of them, skiing with them and likely staying in the same hotels. I don’t think the announcers would last long if they aren’t hyping up everyone.

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Trying to announce the mild run…seems like the trick of the trade there is having a few preconceived sidebars in your pocket…talk about the skier (not the run they’re taking), talk about the venue, equipment, history of the event, whatever…while the unimpressive run is going on, working in observations here and there as it unfolds.
Easier said than done, I guess.

….and it looks like ias is bringing this post to an end, a longtime poster here, posting out of Utah for many years and known as the inventor of The Ogden, always a crowd favorite going back to his days as the yetiman….great to see him back on tour, putting some posts up with that distinctive Lake Superior avatar…as he wheels it through the end of this final paragraph looking relieved… with the season he’s had I think he’ll be pleased to just get this one posted up without any injuries, Clownshoe

Also, for whatever it’s worth, I find this pairing of Derek Foose and Anna Smoothy almost perfect. They’re as good (for my taste, I guess) as Frankie and Dak, and after the last few years I didn’t think that was possible.

And I miss Tabke…you always knew he would have an interesting take on any venue.

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Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy

….and it looks like ias is bringing this post to an end, a longtime poster here, posting out of Utah for many years and known as the inventor of The Ogden, always a crowd favorite going back to his days as the yetiman….great to see him back on tour, putting some posts up with that distinctive Lake Superior avatar…as he wheels it through the end of this final paragraph looking relieved… with the season he’s had I think he’ll be pleased to just get this one posted up without any injuries, Clownshoe

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Stuff like this is why I love this board.

My wife is in the other room asking me "What are you laughing at in there?"

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Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy

Trying to announce the mild run…seems like the trick of the trade there is having a few preconceived sidebars in your pocket…talk about the skier (not the run they’re taking), talk about the venue, equipment, history of the event, whatever…while the unimpressive run is going on, working in observations here and there as it unfolds.
Easier said than done, I guess.

….and it looks like ias is bringing this post to an end, a longtime poster here, posting out of Utah for many years and known as the inventor of The Ogden, always a crowd favorite going back to his days as the yetiman….great to see him back on tour, putting some posts up with that distinctive Lake Superior avatar…as he wheels it through the end of this final paragraph looking relieved… with the season he’s had I think he’ll be pleased to just get this one posted up without any injuries, Clownshoe

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

The winning run...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbhY0JtanBQ

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Im always amazed how they know where they are...

That blind takeoff backflip is incredible. Just throwing that after a visual inspection having never hit it before. What the fuck…bananas.

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Originally Posted by subtle plague

Im always amazed how they know where they are...

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They had walked all up and down that ridge. The footsteps going up to where he dropped the backflip were most likely his. For Chabloz the bottom 3 was the only air that he couldn't know exactly where his landing was going to be and it looked pretty simple from that standpoint

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Originally Posted by abraham

Getting to be tiresome, Bunny.

Pretty sure Chicherit had some pretty positive comments about the comp scene there.

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I thought I'd establish a running gag for 21/22. I'll stop [emoji6]

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Originally Posted by subtle plague

I thought I'd establish a running gag for 21/22. I'll stop [emoji6]

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I like the constant comparison to what is obviously the gold standard of freeride venues...mammoth

Anyone on the ground in Kicking Horse have any guesses what day the comp is going to run? I’m thinking about making the road trip if it lines up with my days off.

I don't think Kicking Horse is supposed to happen until Feb 10th at the earliest, but I could be wrong. Thought I had heard or read the window was Feb 10 - 15.

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Originally Posted by Clownshoe

Anyone on the ground in Kicking Horse have any guesses what day the comp is going to run? I’m thinking about making the road trip if it lines up with my days off.

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All the signs say Feb 12 with KH website 12-17 so earliest 12th but not sure if 12th is setup etc , I can ask if I run into the right person

Hot lineup for the Nendaz invitational on Saturday - Eder vs Chabloz vs Remco Kayser should be a treat [emoji91]
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is that going to be shown live?

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Originally Posted by total_immortal

I like the constant comparison to what is obviously the gold standard of freeride venues...mammoth

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I'm slowly catching on to this but curious if there's a conversion chart for Ogdens and free ride venues? It would really help clear thing up for me.

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Originally Posted by Clownshoe

Anyone on the ground in Kicking Horse have any guesses what day the comp is going to run? I’m thinking about making the road trip if it lines up with my days off.

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From KH FB post
Ozone is looking prime and just in time for the Freeride World Tour. T-minus 7 days ��
Weather window February 12-17.

Thanks Doug!

detailed from KH

The competition is scheduled for February 12 with an additional weather window from February 13-17. The competition will be live broadcasted here.

https://www.freerideworldtour.com/?u...eid=a765c7c644

(So long as the weather is good the 12th is the date.)

Do have some discount tickets.:fm:

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Originally Posted by raisingarizona13

I'm slowly catching on to this but curious if there's a conversion chart for Ogdens and free ride venues? It would really help clear thing up for me.

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Difficult. Mammoth is so far ahead regarding most things that it's hard to compare it to anything.

It's its own category.

The key to a good reoccurring joke is it’s actually supposed to be funny. But you do you and keep on beating that dead straw man.

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

The key to a good reoccurring joke is it’s actually supposed to be funny. But you do you and keep on beating that dead straw man.

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Totally agree. PD made a comment years ago that SP didn’t get or doesn’t get. I’m guessing SP has never stood in the Owens Valley and realized that us California flatlanders have huge mountains within a 3 hour drive, with snow, from any corner of the state,

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Originally Posted by Creeker

Totally agree. PD made a comment years ago that SP didn’t get or doesn’t get. I’m guessing SP has never stood in the Owens Valley and realized that us California flatlanders have huge mountains within a 3 hour drive, with snow, from any corner of the state,

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Big sur.

Woah. This is getting out of hand. I'm passing the torch to total immortal. But One day I'm going to stand in the owens valley and tell my son: someday, this California resort will all be yours!

P.s. Judging from powdorks comments in the tahoe thread I'm not 100% convinced that it's me that doesn't get things [emoji6]

Yikes now I'm getting wrangled into this fracas. I just find it entertaining when someone gets all worked up that their home resort isn't the best at something. Like, does it really matter if Mammoth has a FWT worthy venue? I've never skied Mammoth but it looks sick, and I have stood in the Owen's Valley awestruck by the Eastern Sierra. But the videos posted of the Mammoth venue look like the contest was held in a spot that would be one feature on a FWT face.

RA, my involvement on this forum has been pretty transient and I missed most of the Ogden Scale, so I am far from an expert and would have trouble converting. However, I think someone up-thread said that Guerlain Chicherit loved the Mammoth Venue. He is from Tignes, which has a junior comp but as far as I can tell no adult comp, so I would say Tignes is around a 0.5 mammoths (never been to Tignes, so no idea). We're all in agreement the Bec and Wildseeloder are the best Euro venues, so I would guess they would be right around 1 mammoth, Baqueira was a fun venue so I'd give it 0.8 mammoths, Arcalis this season, despite the poor conditions, was a huge face so 0.85-0.9 mammoths? Nendaz is pretty cool so maybe like 0.75 mammoths?

TahoeJ is only a few points ahead of me in the FunBet, so I really should be focusing on my Kicking Horse picks and stop being unfunny...

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

The key to a good reoccurring joke is it’s actually supposed to be funny. But you do you and keep on beating that dead straw man.

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I've got no dog in this fight, but it's pretty funny how worked up the California contingent gets about the whole thing.

^^ Nope, don’t give a shit. Just tired of the repetition as many have pointed out. It’s not the off season and the thread cunting is lame.

It is pretty damn funny. Making jokes will never be 'thread cunting' here.

Pollard. Good vid

https://www.freerideworldtour.com/vi...a/308849/36194

Should not have cut off his bottom air though. He did the early takeoff thing that was cool.

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Originally Posted by Angle Parking

Pollard. Good vid

https://www.freerideworldtour.com/vi...a/308849/36194

Should not have cut off his bottom air though. He did the early takeoff thing that was cool.

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Love watching him ski. He really does flow - there's a lot of Tabke in his style.

On a separate note, those drone shots are still annoying. And isn't there some rule that you're not supposed to cut between camera angles that are 180° apart?

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Originally Posted by muted reborn

It is pretty damn funny. Making jokes will never be 'thread cunting' here.

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You must have a really really low bar for comedy…

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

You must have a really really low bar for comedy…

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Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy

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That bar is so low it must be what was used to consider Mammoth as a FWT venue.

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Originally Posted by toast2266

Love watching him ski. He really does flow - there's a lot of Tabke in his style.

On a separate note, those drone shots are still annoying. And isn't there some rule that you're not supposed to cut between camera angles that are 180° apart?

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The drone shots in the Pollard vid did a good job of conveying the steepness of the venue though. But overall, annoying indeed.

Liking Pollard more and more.

And on a separate note, respect to Derek (I'm pretty sure that's his name) the commentator. He has gotten steadily better, brings good stoke, and he is knowledgeable to the extent that I am learning a lot from listening to him.

I'm new here, how do I post new threads? I need to ask question on tech talk about skis?

KH is probably running a day early on Friday. Not confirmed yet but the weather does not look friendly later.

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Originally Posted by Howard1234

I'm new here, how do I post new threads? I need to ask question on tech talk about skis?

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I think you need a certain number of replies (like your one above) before you can post a new thread. I think the number is 5, but it's been a while. It may even be longer before you can post a pic, not sure.

Don't forget to put in your Fun Bet picks for the Kicking Horse event.

venue check
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-4bTo8JdRU