Can you see if they have a 191 E110?
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Can you see if they have a 191 E110?
It’s as if all you guys forgot about PTEX1 and that he is a Nordica dealer…
I’ve been a lurker for a bit, if I’m thinking of the right guy doesn’t he usually do something in the spring?
Yeah, he hooked me up with a pair of last year's 110!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
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He does a spring clearance sale, but he can also give you a great price year round.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleBogey
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Corbett’s website is pretty good for accurate stock numbers and doesn’t list a 191cm Enforcer 110 for very doubtful they have it.
Did just see this deal out of Utah for a 191cm and even have an Enforcer 115 listed too.
https://sidelineswap.com/gear/skiing/skis/7349105-nordica-new-2023-enforcer-110-skis-191cm
I like the new graphics on the 104. It's such a solid, versatile ski. I may add a pair back to the mix for next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony911
I REALLY like my Hotshot. I do wish they made a 186-ish length. I'm not sure I need the 189 in that spot in my quiver, but I'd like to try it. It's the ski I know I can grab and have a good day on in everything except the deepest snow. The E110 was very similar but a tad more businesslike.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishskisurf
If it came found to having only one ski, the E110 would win out over the Hotshot, but I have pow sticks and my tendency on a pow day is to let my skis run, so I like a longer, wider ski than my 185 E110 was.
I don't know what happened to this thread but it is back.
I noticed it was gone and so did Beder. He asked if I deleted it. I don’t recall deleting it, but who knows as the forums has been wonky for me the past few weeks. Beder sought the help of the Admins. Looks like that did something. Maybe he can add his two cents.
Whatever the story is, I’m intrigued to hear more about the changes for 2025. A bit more rocker in the tail and addition of rubber elastomer seems like two things I would like in the revised 100/99.
Thanks Danno for bringing this thread back.
Thorough discussion from Ski Essentials guys on the 2025 Enforcers.
89, 94, 99 reduced tip rocker and increased tail rocker. The 104 gets REDUCED tail rocker to make it more directional and more like the others. Some of you will hate this I'm sure.
The 110 is going away so if you love that one better email Ptex right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BQQ2acVAMc&t=838s
Interesting their firm snow front side skis are getting more tail rocker and the more soft snow oriented 104 is getting less.
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It is odd to reduce the tail rocker on the 104. Seems like they are trying to differentiate between Enforcers and Unleashed to a greater degree? Seems that is why they are killing the E110. But who really understands how Euro ski designers think?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2FUNKY
I have often wondered if Nordica/Volkl/Blizzard are influenced by what the others are doing, and who might lead and who follows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
Enforcer 88/Kendo/Brahma have for years been very similar skis.
It is odd to reduce the tail rocker on the 104. Seems like they are trying to differentiate between Enforcers and Unleashed to a greater degree? Seems that is why they are killing the E110. But who really understands how Euro ski designers think?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2FUNKY
Gearhub in Fernie has 1 pair of E110 in 191 left, I got the other one.
I got a 30% off sale a while ago that isn't there now but maybe they will do something.
$1000 Canadian, not sure what that is in Trump dollars.
You could wait for spring sale but unlikely they will be there that long.
Personally I love the idea of reduced tail rocker to the E104. Not a fan of twin tips but I still want a ski that will slarve. A little more tail rocker to be added to the E99 will be good as well. Like the Bandit said, having rubber be incorporated into the tip and tail laminates will also be a good thing. I have a Rossi BO 98 that has that. They are as quiet as a Stockli.
Meh. Wish they would leave the tail alone and add some beef up front.
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They are killing off E110 & E115 because no one was skiing them in Europe besides some sponsored hotshots. Nordica has no sex appeal to the target population of skis >= 110 mm whatsoever. Just look at the graphics. Pure grandpa „I always ski 1 m of powder on my Enforcer 88“ territory. The sponsored dudes and gals moved long time ago to Unleasheds so there is no one left for E110 and E115.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
They make good skis, though.
I was at my shop today comparing all three … the E88 has way less contact length and way more tip and tail rocker than the other two. Also looks like it has less beef in the rocker zones than those other two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beder
Brahma seems to have more tip rocker than the Kendo (soon to be M88) but similar tail profile.
That said, the E88 seems to be the closest shape to the “Rustler 8” that I always wanted Blizzard to make as a fucking around on shit snow ski - and the E89 changes sound good on paper. So I’ll try to pick up one or the other for that purpose.
I still haven't skied the E88, but own a 187 Brahma 88 and 184 Kendo 88. The Kendo skis amazingly loose (especially in the tail) for an 88, and perhaps at the expense of sheer edge grip, where the Brahma is better. Based on skiing the Enforcer 94, I'm guessing the Enforcer 88 slots between those other two in terms of edge grip and looseness/maneuverability. With all that metal in it, I find it hard to believe the Brahma doesn't end up the winner for sheer edge grip. My two cents.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
Yeah, looking at all the skis in hand have predisposed me to agree with that. I don’t think sheer edge grip is my goal either in “f’ing around off piste in junk snow” - something that is loose, versatile, quick to settle. The Brahma looked like it had the flattest tail and felt like it had the most beef in the tail so I’ve actually relegated that to last place for my personal interests. Just based on hand flexing and core profile it seems like the 170 K88 or 179 E88 may be workable for me …
I tried the 179 E94 two years ago and it was ohhhhhh so close to what I was looking for (core profile, dampness, stiffness, rebound all felt so dialed for me) other than it’s eager propensity to want to make one kind of turn shape without much feedback from the pilot. I may have to see if I can pick up a cheap used version and see if just having a heavily detuned and dullish edge coming into the contact points takes care of that autocarve complaint of mine.
I’m 140 lbs if the stated lengths are confusing anyone.
A little disappointed that they’re screwing with the 104 Frees. They have their faults, but they’re pretty damn good skis overall. On the other hand, it’s a total crime they did away with the 115 Frees altogether. If anyone has a pair of 115 Frees (or Pros) that are unmounted or in excellent condition, hit me up if you’re thinking about getting rid of them ;)
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I ski the E110 in Europe, a friend of mine has 2 pairs...among the best skis in my quiver. So sad they're going away...
Anyone been on the new enforcer 99?
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Anyone have cliff notes on E94 vs Rustler 9 (current or previous gen) for off piste junk snow?
I have tried the E94 before but not the R9. My only complaint about the E94 was how eager it was to carve across the fall line when rolling an ankle over, I’m hoping that detuning will mute this some!
I was initially thinking about the Kendo or Brahma but when comparing the rocker profiles in the shop I think the Enforcer was more what I’m looking for. And I skied some not so great high density variable dust (from trace depth to 2+ inches) on boilerplate crust yesterday that had me thinking the E94 would do better for those variable pockets of skied up new than the E88.
i skid a 186 enforcer 88 for a few days and hated it. I think the 94 is the only very good ski in that line of regular (not free) enforcers. Hits the sweet spot where the shape and heft was of the build came together to work for that ski. I’ve heard people like the 179 e88 but that’s too small for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
I haven’t skid kendo’s but the m6 and m102 are the tits and I have no doubt the kendo is awesome. It’s on the list to add each year for frontside and bumps but I end up never giving it a shot.
brahma is def the beefiest of these and would have the best edge hold. I think it’s a bit too much frontside focused unless your technique is perfect.
186 enforcer 94 is just a fantastic ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by MD12
I decided to quit waffling and picked up a new set of 179 E94s (current gen). Gonna put some Pivot 15s on them … but need some 95mm brake arms first!
Had a chance to check out the new E99 at a local ski shop. What a nice looking ski! Was thinking about the Mindbinder 99Ti, but these may win out. Shovel shape looks a smoother curve than the E100, and the tail rocker seems just the right amount. Very stiff flex and a heavy build. Looking forward to hearing some on snow reviews soon. Yes that's you Bandit!
Thought I was sold on picking up a new Kendo after trying a pair last week, then our shop got some ‘25 enforcers in. Grabbed a pair of 89’s today, hope my impulsive behavior pays off.
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Mounted the 2025 89's and got them out for a half dozen EC groomers yesterday, I went with the mini 173's. I know not very TGR of me, but I am a hobbit and wanted something more all mountain shaped than the 167/172 Stockli's I see all over the hill these days. Which apparently can skid a turn with the best of them!
Used to have the E93 for a couple months, wasn't a huge fan and sent it down the road.
Initial impressions:
-on first blush I may prefer the Kendo, would need to A/B for full determination
-wicked sharp tune out of the wrapper, almost too sharp on the real hard snow. Detune tapered sections? full gummy swipe? Open to suggestions
-sharpness didn't show up in anything softer
-wicked fucking stable for a little ski
Interesting feedback TC. I usually end up completely destroying (rounding off) the tapered edges on all my skis, and then gently softening the tails from the widest point to about 2 cm forward … but I also live out west and am never looking for ultimate hold on ice,
I’m looking for a balance of control when tipped up and looseness when flattening out on variable garbage snow.
I just skied my new 179 E94s (2024) for the first time last night, tune out of the wrapper, on refrozen snow that had been warm and soft during the day. Piste conditions were very firm with some pockets of dry skied up duff and other patches of bare refrozen tracks, off piste was nearly solid chicken heads on a semi firm base. My tune was also impressively sharp, but I was even more impressed that I had little desire to detune them, save for maybe a tiny little bit of light gummi and coarse stone work at the tail’s widest point and taper segments. Weighing 140 lbs, and after skiing them outrageously fast for an hour in conditions that make other skis chatter and tremble, I don’t think I will ever find a speed limit on these … and am wondering if I could have gone with the 172s to be more nimble on garbage snow and having a little more tolerance for relaxed or tired skiing for my size. The 179s were totally manageable for me but kept goading me into going way faster than my mood or fitness were initially suiting! These also skied differently than the pair I demoed in 2022, they seemed better at making the turn shape I wanted them to make and less likely to auto-carve a locked medium size turn when pressuring the ankles - but I don’t think there have been any construction changes since then? Maybe the tune was the difference…
Being an EC'r ultimate hold on ice is a desired feature here, so balancing that with looseness. All my skis are 177 - 182 these days so getting the mini's was a bit of a leap of faith, I think the size is what I was looking for with this spot in the quiver.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
Not going to forget the gummy next time I take them out, at least the one for polishing steel edges
That’s great feedback, me too on ski sizes, including my daily driver which is a true tip to tail 182. Maybe 1-2 more injuries and I will consider picking up some 173 E89s so that I have an option that’s both less aggro (for my size) and also has more bite than these E94s. I went 179 because my 12 year old OG Enforcers are 178, that’s back when they had flat tails and only a very small amount of early rise - that OG E98 is more damp than my E94 but also not as stiff underfoot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ticketchecker
Kicking around the idea of getting an Enforcer 104 for my 5' 6", 120-lb. teenager. Thinking 172-cm. He's currently on the 168 Blade Optic 96 and has mentioned wanting "more ski".
Thoughts on smaller/lighter skiers on the Enforcer 104?
Hey bandit,Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
My 5’6”, 125 lb wife is on this years Enforcer Free 104 in a 172cm. She’s a good skier, makes lots of turns, likes to go fast.
She’s also got the Santa Ana 104 with backcountry bindings. She has no problem skiing the heavier Enforcer.
KC
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How old is he? How much of a ripper is he? For this season or next season? Not much left in this season … you guys don’t have as much snow in WA as OR, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
He is already practically one growth spurt away from being my size, 5’ 8” 140 lbs. I’m not a great skier but I do ski aggressively for my size and skill level, and the 179 E104 I demoed felt dialed for me, the 179 E94s that I own also feel like a pretty good length but also something I will never see the top end of when conditions are firm. I have not skied the 172 of either but I’m sure they would be fine most days for me, except for soft and/or wind affected snow deeper than 6” when I’m guessing I’d be missing the 179s at either width.
Given all that, I personally would go for 172 if he’s a decent but currently more cruisy skier, but 179 if he shows signs of hitting the gas pedal more often than not, or if you don’t want to get him new sticks late next season again. Sure the 179s might be a lot to handle in stiffness right now, but they could also be eye opening in terms of what he is looking forward to and thinking more about dialing in his shin pressure and posture, can always ski the 168 Optics when the 179 Enforcers start kicking his ass after a few hours, where the 172 just won’t really be that much of a jump … The 179s could be money for him all next season start to finish, maybe even through part of the one after that too?
You should also consider those 177 WD108 Gen 1s I have on Gear Swap right now [emoji12]Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man