If you are on the fence, by FTP gloves. Their customer service is absolutely top notch. Better than Patagonia. Damn close to Freeride Systems (no one beats MiCol).
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If you are on the fence, by FTP gloves. Their customer service is absolutely top notch. Better than Patagonia. Damn close to Freeride Systems (no one beats MiCol).
The best gloves out there. I have to get another pair of two for a quiver. I’m in my “spring glove” 9/10 days. Over 140 days in them so far. Great glove. Great price. Great cs
I was fortunate enough to have one a pair of free the powder gloves at this years BBI raffle( thank you so much to whoever donated them terrific cause this year btw). After wearing them on the hill 3 times now i am seriously impressed with these gloves. Yesterday was a combination of all kinds of PNWet snows. My 15k jacket and pants were soaked through but my hands were warm and dry. AMAZING! IF YOU ARE ON THE FENCE ABOUT PURCHASING A PAIR OF THESE GLOVES [emoji3451] JUST COMMIT LIKE DROPPING INTO YOUR FAVORITE RUN.
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Now that I've got quite a few days on my FTP's, here's what I'm thinking...
I got Polar Mitts and SX gloves.
Polar Mitts are fantastic - that is all. I wish I'd followed FTP's advice and sized up (my fingertips are right on the end at times). But it doesn't matter much. While it feels funny to wear mitts (haven't skied in mitts since I was a kid), they are super warm, for those super cold days (had more than usual this season) - first season in a while I've not had cold fingers on < 0'F days. No complaints, these things rock.
As for the SX's...little disapointed. The first few days, I loved 'em. But the first storm day, not so much. The main problem is that if my hand is even a little wet (i.e. any time I take them off for even a few seconds, on a storm day), they are almost impossible to pull on. The fleece liner grabs onto my wet skin like no glove I've ever had - annoying, minor wrestling match every time. The other frustration (again really only manifesting on storm days) is getting a seal between glove and jacket. I've not figured out a "setting" for the velcro on the jacket and/or gloves, that does not require re-working both, every time I put the gloves on (and the smunched-up liner, from struggling a wet hand into them, does not help!). Otherwise, the SX is a great balance of warmth vs dexterity, they seem really well made, and breathability is the best I've ever had in a warm glove (once I wrestle a wet hand in, they do dry out amazingly quickly).
I think the solution would be: 1) a smother face on the inside of the SX fleece liner (for the wet hand thing). 2) an elastic, knit cuff on the SX fleece liner (which would make fussing with getting a decent seal much less important, and also give something more to pull on, with teeth etc., to crank them onto a wet hand).
I have the same problem with the sx, I'm hoping it settles in after a few more uses. Only used 3 days so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by skizix
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Originally Posted by Not bunion
My wife had a pair of five year old mittens with probably 400 days on them and FTP happily repaired a spilt seam. We paid the outbound shipping, FTP paid to send them back, no charge.
Got sniped on Ebay on a pair of Hestra's, so I just ordered a pair from these folks. Hope they keep my hands warm, as last season was nippy without my Hestra's.
Guaranteed that you will like them more than your Hestra’s.Quote:
Originally Posted by liv2ski
I love these gloves soooo much. Perfect for all winter - even better for touring (tour in breathable liners, pull on outer for rip down). My only complaint is this^^^^ - the velcro seal is annoying, and I end up with futzing with it too much - every time i take my hands out of the gloves. And I always end up with snow down my gloves if I tumble. Never happens with the ol kincos - obviously the FTP is better in every way, except this.Quote:
Originally Posted by skizix
Man the SX3 Pro lobstah glove looks sweet. May have to add them to the FTP glove quiver as I’m a big fan of the lobster style for super cold days.
My spring glove/BC saw the most days last year as my hands run warm. Love them so much I might get another set for a multi wear glove, town/chores/hunting.
still rocking the spring (now called BC glove) and wanting to snag a pair of Freeride Coyotes. there still a valid Maggot discount code out there?
I have a pair of Rx3 Pro lobsters I am selling. PM if anyone is interested.
Edit: size L
love my lobstahs
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I need backup spring gloves, a code would be nice
Someone mentioned in GS that the code MAG119 was still working, might be worth a shot.
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Any new discount codes for these??
Proud new owner of the Baldy mitt and BC glove/retiring a pair of SX pro gloves after 4+ seasons (or might send them back for a palm stitching repair). Have used the Baldy's in single digits to single digits below 0F. I haven't used mittens skiing since grade school, and dexterity definitely suffers, but I can still hold a pole handle, and have not had cold hands, not even close. The BC gloves are bulkier and warmer than something like a Marker spring glove, and while they're not as warm as the SX, should cover most of what the Baldy can't. I still like Marker spring gloves for 40+, or might try the full finger mtn bike glove for nuclear days.
FWIW, I think the Baldy's are warmer than a Hestra XCR 3-finger for comparison. Hestra wins the dexterity contest here. FTP does better with gloves IMO.
TENBUCKS for $10 off.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2FUNKY
You can try FREE for free. Good luck.
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Did. No worky.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Skied Bandini Mountain
Sorry, it just worked for me the other day.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2FUNKY
That was a 4-5 day deal at the end of last month ... at least that's what the email said.
... Thom
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Holiday Deals! Buy One Get One 50% Off.
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at the top of the home page for me?
Yep, it worked:)Quote:
Originally Posted by fleaches
Looking to buy a pair of these.. compared to the Hestra Fall Line, how is the dexterity of the Freeride (which seems to be the most equivalent model). Cheers ski pals
dexterity isn't the same...it just isn't
hestra out-of-the-box dexterity is the industry leader
that said, FTP do break in and are fantastic gloves
Thanks for the quick response.. So if I *have* the money, worth it to just splurge on hestra? I just prefer to buy once and use for many many years, but don't want to overpay for a brand name.Quote:
Originally Posted by ::: :::
if that is your critical glove need, sure
personally, i don't need to tie shoe laces when i'm skiing & FTP has been pretty great independent of price
Gotcha, really appreciate the insight. One last q (as I pore over previous threads).. compared to Kinco 901 (or Flylow Ridge) these FTP are definitely a step up, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ::: :::
5 steps up in dexterity, 3 steps up in style, 1/2 step back in warmth. Similar quality construction.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikefuturist
Haha amazing :-) I guess an order of the Freeride Coyote is coming up shortly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Peruvian
I’ve got a Hestra VCF size 11 and a FTP BC Glove size XL.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikefuturist
The Hestra was dextrus as fuck from day one and just got better. Still awesome. Nice roomy fingers, but not sloppy. So well articulated it’s a wonder nobody else can even come close.
The FTP was snug and not super dextrus. I’m 5’ 10” and it’s snug in me. As in, my fingertips touch the ends and it’s a bit too snug on each finger to get the circulation I want for warmth. 18 months of regular use and it hasn’t packed out at all. I’m not sure where this idea comes from that winter gloves are supposed to be tight. It doesn’t work for me.
FTP is a great company, but Hestra is an entirely different category of quality.
Now, their bike gloves are fantastic. Best glove I’ve used.
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They do make them in different sizes. And yes, their bike gloves rule.
After struggling with cold fingers this year, I bought some FTP RX Pro Mittens. Feels like I've got a toaster oven on my hands...its so great to not have to deal with the fingers-slammed-in-a-door pain anymore, even when it was subzero earlier this week. It's a bit strange to have mittens versus gloves, but if you are on the fence I'd say go for it and dont look back.
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^^^this^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by jono
Have both — prefer the snuggness/dexterity of my Vertical Cut - hestras (9) vs 2017 or 2018 (forget what year I purchased) SX pro (large). The SX is warmer so on sub zero days I opt for the SX. However the Vertical Cuts have a membrane so when skiing in snain/rain they crush the FTP.Quote:
Originally Posted by bikefuturist
If I had to choose and had the cash — Hestras
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Key part missing from this discussion of hestra vs ftp is durability. Agree hestra deserves the nod for dexterity but it pnwet maritime I’ve never had a pair of hestras make it past the 4 year mark. No matter how much sealant. Repeated wet out = eventual disintegration. I’ve only had ftp gloves in the mix past 3 years. But I can see them making it 5+ at less than half the cost.
I like the FTP MTB gloves, but the stitching always comes undone prematurely near the fingertips. The fabric used there is weak and pulls out and your finger pops out the side. At least mine do. Has happened to 3pr so far.
Have you considered sizing up? My FTP mtb gloves are in year 4 and I can’t seem to kill them. The backing is a little thick, and I keep seeing the Handup style light gloves out there but my FTP keep rolling along. At $15, they’re really hard to beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by SJG
Ok, peeps need to stop trying to compare FTP to Hestra as Hestra they are not. Are they 80-90% of a Hestra at a lot less money? Absolutely. I ski 90% of the time in my BC/now Spring gloves. Going on season 3 and showing no signs of death. They are extremely dexterous. Not sure how a moar dexterous glove would benefit me as they do everything i need them to extremely easy. I’ve fiddled with my cast system while wearing them with no issues. Now the RX would be a little bulky for that. For really fine work i just take the mother fuckers off.
I’ve been rolling FTP since the inception and now have my glove quiver nailed down to the Spring glove and the lobstah clawz.
As far as waterproofness, yeah, they kinda suck at that. I’m ok with that as my climate is on the dryer side of snow fall. Only wetted my gloves out a couple times in a few years. I prefer the breathability of no membrane. If that’s a concern, then look to the Hestra SkiLyft mentioned.
For the price, FTP is the best glove i have found. Their customer service is top notch. I will be buying another set of Spring/BC gloves when mine finally die.
As far as comparing them to Kinco, it’s comical, FTP killz Kinco.