Nah, it's estimated at around 100 IBU. IMHO IBU isn't a very good determination of hop flavor. It's only one part of the equation.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
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Nah, it's estimated at around 100 IBU. IMHO IBU isn't a very good determination of hop flavor. It's only one part of the equation.Quote:
Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio
not an IPA, but not sure where else to put it
Evil Twin's The Perfect Crime Hollow Point
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All I know is it looks good and I can read 10% abv on the label? What's the story behind this one?Quote:
Originally Posted by splitter
Had a FW Union Jack on tap with dinner. Forget how good it is.
This year's Hopslam is fucking fantastic. I can't drink enough of this stuff.
Last year's wasn't nearly as spectacular (though still damned good).
Anyone try the Firestone Wookiejack? Pretty damn good black ipa with a healthy amount of rye. Selling bombers for about $5.75 here so not a bad price.
it's a good beer, but $5.75 for a bomber of a normal ABV beer is a bad price outside of a bar. It's a ~$4 pint or $11.50 a 4 pack or $17.50 a 6er.Quote:
Originally Posted by shredgnar
Alaskan's Black IPA is back. Still don't get it.
^^^ Around here there's virtually nothing coming in at less than $6 a bomber that's really worth discussing.
Its merit as an IPA is debatable, but a black ale displaying the FW label @ 8.3% for $6 is considered a steal by some.
Not positive, but I don't think many high(er) abv 4's or 6's are sold by FW in CO.
Racer 5? Lagunitas Cappucino Stout? How about spending another $ or 2 for a much better beer? Sorry, didn't really care for the WookieJack at all when I had it; lots of rye, not much on the hops. Guess I mised it was 8.3% I don't really care for any of the FW line 'cept maybe Red Nectar for historical reasonsQuote:
Originally Posted by BraddA
I don't buy into the hype entirely either, though I do enjoy the Double Jack's approach.
Our west coast offerings are weak. We see a fair amount from Cali's heavy-hitters, but looking for something say, Laugunitas and "lesser," or more appropriately "smaller," is kinda disheartening. North Coast has done alright, and Port the same, but beer fests are really our best shot at getting the left coast goods. And most beer fests suck, so...
Any anything current and exciting outta PDX or Seattle? No dice. We read about it.
Speaks volumes, sadly,
I tried a black IPA yesterday and it was v.enjoyable.
Today, several Daytime half IPAs. Fantastic.
I drink a lot of beer and fail to grasp the hate on these varietals. Some people cray-cray y'all.
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Frosty Bromontana (brother of Broflacco) approves with the universal stamp of ball approval.
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Why? Because a good, well made porter is > Black IPA imo. So many other varietals are better than an IPA derived one. Oh well.
Wut?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
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MehQuote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
IPA is way better than porter. Black, red, who cares? IPA ain't about the colouring malts. It's about the fucking hops. I'll take an IPA over anything everytime.
My local beer supplier donated a bunch of beer for a raffle to benefit Owen's ski team at an upcoming race weekend banquet.
Stone Brewing smoked porter with vanilla bean
Stone Brewing smoked porter with chipotle pepper
Beer Valley Brewing's Leafer Madness Imperial Pale Ale
Lagunitas Hop Stoopid
Goose Island Sofie Belgian Ale
Goose Island Matilda Belgian Ale
Deschutes XXIV
Yeah, I know, it's a heresy that not everything needs agressive floral hopping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bromontana
Not heresy.
That's what a lot of people like.
I don't really like porter or stout. Too malty.
I don't really like Belgians. Too yeasty.
I like hoppy flowery spicy piney fruity IPA.
I also like a good saison every now and then.
you got me wrong. I love a good IPA. Lluuuuuurrrrrvvvv one. Drinking a tasty one. I just like all the other beers too. I like a Porter. Or a good lager - or better a good dark lager! And a well balanced not nuclear sour Dubbel or Trippel. Just seems beers going to IPA and Sour and I like the rest too - 'cept fucking Bier de Mars, that shit's fucking nasty.
Maybe we should argue about epoxy?
I don't like other beers. I like IPA.
Isn't this thread about IPA?
I really enjoy Belgian style ales and classic lagers. But in An IPA thread, well, ahem. Like there's just, like protocol and stuff.
Maybe this is how seasonal affective disorder affects beer threads?
well yeah... and Black IPA and White IPA and Belgian IPA aren't IPAsQuote:
Originally Posted by telemike
QED.
Now back to a good hoppy IPA!
Widmer O'Ryely's back on the Rotator, that shit's tasty. Whatever Kirkwood cross labels an IPA is ok, whatever the wolf creek has in mville t'aint bad as a Pale
You don't get to 20,000 posts without posting numerous times in threads you know nothing about.
Ipa are great, double ipa's, imperial ipa's and triple ipa's > all other beers. Black lager? Loving that new guiness black, eh? Good for you.
Moylen's triple ipa, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. $9 /bomber. Get over it.
Have you tried the petrus pale ale, is that too sour/tart for your taste?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Conway
On the ipa front, it seems hop rising now has fewer ibus, which explains why it tastes much sweeter than before. Too bad imo, I thought it was a decent double ipa before, now its less appealing.
Also, I've had cutthroat and trader from uinta on tap at several bars and found a vaguely cheesy/parmesan flavor. I know it has been in more than one batch. Any guesses why I would taste that? Fermenting at too high a temp or something?
And finally good life's descender is an inexpensive and solid ipa in my opinion
If any of you ever end up in Minneapolis for a bit - a new brewery just opened in Northeast, called Dangerous Man.
The Founder/Head Brewer currently has 6 taps, including there House IPA which I thought was very tasty. Something like 6.2 ABV and 40-50IBU (can't recall exactly).
The other beers were great too - the Belgin Strong was pretty popular. The brewery/bar space itself was very cool too-well done interior.
At this point he has chosen to skip the distribution route for now, and stick with in house sales... Meaning you won't see it on shelves. If you are ever up here though, we can grab a pint!
Just as different hops are used in IPAs, different malts can change up the flavor profile and balance out the hops, this goes for the yeast as well. I don't see the point in arguing whether it's an IPA or not, they all have one quality in common, they have more hops than the average brew. Personally, I like the rye mixed with a good citrusy hop like amarillo. By trying these different IPAs, you can learn what you like and don't like when you go back to a traditional (nothing is traditional anymore) IPA.
Once again, a 22 oz of 8.3 ABV, gold medal winning (GABF) black rye PA, for under $6, how can you argue with that?
I tried some of this years Hopslam last weekend. Damn it was expensive! Anyway I was underwhelmed but maybe it was just my mood. Super smooth start to finish and well balanced but underwhelming hop hit and the sweet finish wasn't what my pallet wanted. Probably a better beer for me during the day or in the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
Found a new seasonal offering from Deschutes at my local packy a few weeks ago; NWPA. A little lighter than their Inversion IPA, but very tasty, and matches the porch furniture...
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Alaska's Black IPA is back for Spring, and so far is the only Black IPA I really like. Doesn't seem to have as much rye or whatever it is some of the other Black IPAs have that makes them less than IPAish.
bendtheski - you tried 21st Amendment Back in Black?
It's Moylan's - not Moylen's..... course you know what you are talking about. If you get off the IPA IBU bandwagon bought at the colorado cliche store bandwagon try Moonlight Brewing's Death & Taxes for a dark lager; their Bombay by boat ain't a bad IPA.Quote:
Originally Posted by guroo270
Since we are on the subject this years New Glarus Black Top IPA is awesome. Seems like this year they really nailed it start to finish.
^No Hugh, but I'll ask my "guy" to pick some up. He's got really limited space, but still manages to keep at least a half-dozen solid IPA offerings in rotation.
Just got back from St Anton where IPAs are pretty much non-existent. I quickly re-discovered my love of Heffeweissbier. When life hands you lemons...
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Ach! Standards have slipped if they'll serve it in a plastic cup now ;) :)
Not sure it's worth a special order really more it's at Whole Foods so pretty widely distributed, if you are ordering it, try the Stone Black IPA if you haven't
Yes, Hugh knows to only drink a nice big IPA in an ice cold glass.:rolleyes:
^Not to worry, the Rodel-Alm still uses glass...
with a side of schnapps.
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Anybody try beers from Founders?? They make a pretty cool RyePA. I grabbed a sixer of Harpoon Rye IPA today and they are going down pretty good too.
Yep. The Founders dipa is excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by DickMerkin
yup. about twice or 3x per week. I'm a mug club member and stop on the way home for two pints. Founders currently in my fridge:Quote:
Originally Posted by DickMerkin
Reds Rye
Centennial
Breakfast Stout
Imperial Stout
Cherise
Harvest Ale
Bolt Cutter
Double Trouble
Better Half
BTW - Bell's HopSlam is fkna fantastic this year.
^^^ breakfast stout ftw.
Where do you live?Quote:
Originally Posted by bendtheski
I seem to remember first seeing that around NorCal 2+ years ago?
guroo, chill the fuck out. HC lives about 1200 miles closer to Moylans than you do, and I'm sure he's drank way more of it over the years than you. And plastics can impart smells, pthalates, and other poor qualities, not to mention not being able to see the color and bubbles, and the surface tension/head interaction is all different. That said, if I didn't have a choice I'd go plastic, but ... warm glass perfectly fine.
Now.
Let's not forget that SF Beer Week is in 2 weeks and I will be showing up extra early at the DIPA festival. And Pliny the Younger is rather low on my stoke list this year ... Hopefully I discover another Boneyeard! Maybe tasting notes and a trip report this year ... we'll see ...
The dude comes in here and starts talking about black lagers, and corrects me on a vowel, and you're telling me to chill the fuck out? Got it.
All the local Centennial is from April 2012 around here. I don't know wtf that's all about, but I'm not buying a 10 month old IPA when it's sitting on the shelf right next to a 2 week old IPA using the same hops (2 hearted).
That said, I miss it.
And I still can't get over this years hopslam. I try to drink 2 in a sitting, which leaves me pretty much worthless.
I think I'm drinking one of the last stone 10th anniversary ipa's in nashville today. I'm looking forward to it.
I drank a whole growler of green man ipa the other day and barely got a buzz on. Not sure if that's more telling of my problem or if it was just weak.
Front Rangers, Left Hand has their seasonal Warrior IPA on sale. $3.99 a bomber or $30 a case. It's a steal. Grabbed 2 cases yesterday for me and some drinking buddies. Good, fresh hopped, smooth, nothing super hoppy like some OB or other local offerings. More sessionable though. Fresh and tasty! I've always thought LH does a better job with the darker beers (the Milk Stout, especially nitro, is titties) and not so much the IPA realm but this is changing my mind a bit. They have their Twin Sisters DIPA coming out sometime soon that I'm now looking forward to trying. Not sure how much Warrior they have left but thought I'd let some IPA fans know...
Had a few FYIPA's at Southern Sun last night. Have always really liked that beer. Tried the Illusion Dweller IPA and was pretty disappointed though. Super strong banana flavors and nose. Not very hoppy. Switched back to the FYIPA immediately.