White House issued a clarification on Biden’s statements yesterday:
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White House issued a clarification on Biden’s statements yesterday:
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And as a Canadian, I can assure you, *most* of us are horrified by the terrorist attacks, but in typical Canadian fashion, our spineless government wouldn't dare offend people who behead babies, rape woman and directly attack and slaughter civilians. Innocent people on both sides of this fucked up conflict are dying, and there will be nothing to show for it when the dust clouds settle.Quote:
Originally Posted by MontuckyFried
It did seem highly unlikely that anyone would actually show POTUS a decapitation or gang rape picQuote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
Nothing to show except for more graves, more grievances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gcooker
exactly ^^ its been tit for tat since 67, I'm inclined to believe Israel should have gone for a 2 state solution as oposed to killing each other but that might be simplistic and besides the killing ain't gona stop any time soonQuote:
Originally Posted by MultiVerse
who the fuck would compare trucker protests where no body got killed to a war where thousands of people are getting killed ?
Although it is a corporate owned entity, aljazeera is broadcasting some from both sides.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil E
They talk about things like bombed hospitals, and hospitals running out of fuel for their generators, babies in neonatal, etc.
Iran apparently no longer going to get their $6B.
no, aljazeera does not do both sides, because it is state owned (Qatar). It’s a good place to get a tinted view of PalestineQuote:
Originally Posted by Rideski
Nobody's comparing the two. I'm just observing the CBC's willingness to label a non-violent domestic group of protesters as "extremists" and their UNwillingness to label a group of murderous rampaging rapey terrorists as, you know, "terrorists." There were a TON of articles from the CBC at the time of the protests saying all sorts of inflamatory things about the truckers but now that we have full blown terrorists doing their thing, that same CBC be like "Easy guys. The use of the word 'terrorist' is kinda political and we REALLY don't wanna go there."Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
From the leaked CBC E-mail:
"DO NOT refer to militants, soldiers, or anyone else as “terrorists.” The notion of terrorism remains heavily politicized and is part of the story. Even when quoting/clipping a government or a source referring to fighters as “terrorists,” we should add context to ensure the audience understands this is opinion, not fact."
ALSO back then, the Canadian government wasted no time in freezing the truckers bank accounts, their abilities to receive money from supporters, and even their crypto exchange accounts somehow. But when you have the Pro-Palestine rallies this week in Toronto supporting the attacks on Israel, ol' Trudeau's got NOTHING to say about them, huh?
So, you’re comparing the two
Yes, good read. No paywall: https://web.archive.org/web/20231011...is-doomed.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker
Ha! No one is comparing them. Here is my essay comparing the two. As I said…no one is comparing them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcski
he’s not correct in spirit or substance.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennymac
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...robes-reports/
everyone should take the goofball trucker takes to core shot’s thread with SJG.
Does anyone have data on Palestinian support of Hamas over time?
Looking a bit, I’ve found numbers on the 2006 election that put them in power with 44.45% of the vote, and then the next thing I see is 2021 polling showing 53% support, but noting that it had surged after the recent fighting.
Regarding the 2006 election, the polling results listed in Wiki:
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006...ative_election
“ummm press? yeah. yeah hamas #1”
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...stinian-rivals
If this is in response to my request, yeah I wonder about validity of polling responses. I think the 2021 polling was done in person, if I recall correctly, so not sure how much intimidation respondents may have felt.Quote:
Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker
Anyway, wondering if anyone has come across any accepted numbers for Hamas support over time.
Jerusalem Post:
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Four out of five Jewish Israelis believe the government and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are to blame for the mass infiltration of Hamas terrorists into Israel and the massacre that followed, a new Dialog Center poll released on Thursday found.
An overwhelming majority – 86% of respondents, including 79% of coalition supporters, said the surprise attack from Gaza is a failure of the country’s leadership
Wait? What? MTG, Donald Trump and his family all said that Iran spent the whole wad on weapons for Hamas?Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Barron DeJong
I mean, the more we learn about the attack, how widespread it was, how diverse the targets were, how well planned it was, how many people and types of weapons were involved, etc, the more you have to wonder how it was missed. We say 9/11 was a MASSIVE intelligence failure... but that operation was teenytiny compared the level of planning and number of folks involved here. thousands of low level hamas fighters knew when and where this attack was going to occur... but no one in Israel did? Wut?Quote:
Originally Posted by frorider
Was listening to a radio show yesterday, and they were interviewing some Jewish settler that was left leaning say that even his very right leaning settler neighbors are all bent out of shape about Bibi and his regime's epic and colossal failure. But made the comment that they just want the gov't to finish the job and restore some semblance of security to the country and then get rid of Bibi and his incompetent and corrupt regime. He was particularly incensed about Bibi turning Israel into a dictatorship and more concerned about his own hold on power than protecting the citizens.Quote:
Originally Posted by frorider
this is where the conspiracy theories start and they involve some bad actor states with technical expertise and a desire to create other problems and distractions in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
I need you over in the Ukraine thread. This is great support for my argument that the US should annex Eastern Russia. Many of us trace our ancestry to there, and the indigenous there have also always been present there. I think this is a much stronger argument than my argument that it's our manifest destiny, or my other argument that we're stronger so we should just take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MultiVerse
I'm easy on semantics, so if you don't like "annex" feel free to substitute colonize or return home or partition, or whatever you like. Here's to the 51st state, West Alaska!
I would tend to agree that hamas had to have some help... but still, a few thousand low level hamas grunts knew the time and place to attack... how the fuck did Israel not? The odds of that not getting leaked to Israel by its NUMEROUS informants within Hamas are astronomically low.Quote:
Originally Posted by ex-powderbroker
they’ve already answered that, repeatedly. Only a few people inHamas knew about the attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by californiagrown
It's a cheap shot b/c I've already spoken out against the ever-expanding settlements. And I'm guessing this means you're not aware of the existence of Mizrahi Jews. Today Mizrahi are about 50% of the Jews in Israel. Where do they fit in the colonial argument? There are also Arab Christians and Arab Muslims who are also Israeli citizens. Are the Levantine Arabic also colonizers? Several Muslim paramedics were killed last Saturday as well as about 40 Bedouin Israelis who were gunned down while wearing traditional Muslim garb.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongShortLong