2023/2024 NBA THREAD: WHO WANTS TO GO ON PARADE?!?

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Originally Posted by Danno

Mcdaniels and Klay were equally responsible for that shit, acting like Klay was innocent (or more innocent) is BS.

And Draymond will be suspended and I would not at all be surprised if it was 10 games. Just watched a clip on ESPN where Jay Williams said Dray would be suspended for 10 games, so he must be smoking the same shit AR is.

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Nobody said Klay was innocent. Stop making straw man arguments.

Klay grabbed. Been said already. McDaniels escalated unnecessarily. Klay reacted unnecessarily. Armchair fans act like guys don’t have their jersey grabbed every play.

Jay Williams? The same clown who cost himself a $100 million career by running an overpowered motorcycle into a pole? Yeah, that guy’s a genius.

He’s merely an agitator and his takes are generally as useless as those of Skip Bayless.

Same guy as this? https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/202...ad-coach-tweet

Under/over 9.5 games for Draymond. Who’s taking the over?


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This thread kills me every year, same arguments, same players.

Good stuff fellas.

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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

This thread kills me every year, same arguments, same players.

Good stuff fellas.

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heh

This tweet focuses the video on what Gobert did the split second before Dray rushes in.

https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/sta...7785526694118?

He doesn't look like he's attacking anyone, though yes, heavens to betsy, he does put his hands on Klay. But he looks like a peacemaker to me. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by 54-46

Nobody said Klay was innocent. Stop making straw man arguments.

Klay grabbed. Been said already. McDaniels escalated unnecessarily. Klay reacted unnecessarily. Armchair fans act like guys don’t have their jersey grabbed every play.

Jay Williams? The same clown who cost himself a $100 million career by running an overpowered motorcycle into a pole? Yeah, that guy’s a genius.

He’s merely an agitator and his takes are generally as useless as those of Skip Bayless.

Same guy as this? https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/202...ad-coach-tweet

Under/over 9.5 games for Draymond. Who’s taking the over?

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My guess is 5 games, but 10 wouldn't shock me at all. I wasn't citing JWill as a definitive and reliable source, just that AR's guess wasn't crazy (or rather, he wasn't alone in his take).

As for Klay being innocent, no, you didn't say that, but you did say "McDaniels didn’t need to escalate a little jersey grab into a swinging girl fight. Just slap the hand away". As if the "escalation" was all on McDaniels and Klay was only guilty of "a little jersey grab" (and should have just had his hand slapped). Both of these guys are fully complicit every damn step of the way, neither is letting go and neither is giving in. Articulating it as "Klay started it, but McDaniels unnecessarily escalated it" and then Klay reacted unnecessarily to that is a way of absolving Klay and putting the blame on McDaniels, regardless of whether you realize you were doing that. They both acted -- escalating each other -- every step of the way.

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

I’m not sure in what world grabbing the other team’s player makes you a peacekeeper. (It’s not like Klay and Rudy are friends off the court, which would be an exception to that rule). You pull back your teammate…

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Kareem knew how to keep the peace

https://youtu.be/-N6_8HOAhB4

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Originally Posted by Danno

heh

This tweet focuses the video on what Gobert did the split second before Dray rushes in.

https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/sta...7785526694118?

He doesn't look like he's attacking anyone, though yes, heavens to betsy, he does put his hands on Klay. But he looks like a peacemaker to me. :shrug:

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So much peacekeeping. Look it’s totally fine for people to hate on Draymond but let’s also cut the shit. Klay was trying to move away from the altercation and Gobert grabs him around the neck. Fuck around and find out.

Holding a guy back from attacking your guy and putting someone in a choke hold and dragging them 20 yards backwards is not even close the same category. That choke hold had some serious ill intent. I’m not a Gobert fan by any means but come on.


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Yes, Dray was in a perfect position to have tapped him on the shoulder and asked him nicely to please release his teammate so they may continue their sporting match without further delay.

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Originally Posted by teleee

Holding a guy back from attacking your guy and putting someone in a choke hold and dragging them 20 yards backwards is not even close the same category. That choke hold had some serious ill intent. I’m not a Gobert fan by any means but come on.

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Watch again, Klay is trying to move away from the whole thing. Please show me where he’s trying to attack anyone? Or are you not referring to what Gobert did and just speaking generally? In that case, yeah, Draymond for sure went over the top with it as he’s known to do.

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

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So much peacekeeping. Look it’s totally fine for people to hate on Draymond but let’s also cut the shit. Klay was trying to move away from the altercation and Gobert grabs him around the neck. Fuck around and find out.

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GTFO with that screen grab designed to make Gobert look as bad as possible. Everyone should watch the video, see how it looks in real time, and draw their own conclusions, the screen grab is BS. Obviously, you've drawn your conclusions and shockingly, it's in favor of the Warriors! I actually like Klay a lot and can't stand Gobert, and STILL think Gobert wasn't trying to grab Klay by the neck or do anything but separate the two fighters. :shrug:

I don't think you're wrong about Gobert's intentions but he sure did a shitty job of it. Come on, everyone knows that in a peacekeeping situation you don't lay hands on the opposing player and instead try to manage the guy on your team (or calmly stand between them). Do you actually disagree with that? Have you ever played competitive sports? That shit is standard going back to like middle school. I have - not basketball but soccer at a very high level where we had plenty of mix-ups all the time - and most athletes or former athletes vs. internet commenters will agree with me.

"Draymond Green is a Terrible MMA Fighter" - The Ringer

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2023/11/15/23962471/draymond-green-choke-rudy-gobert-fight-ejection-golden-state-warriors-minnesota-timberwolves

Ok mom.

In REALITY…you grab the other guy, you get suspended, and your teammates love you for it.

Hockey has 4-5 of these exact dustups every game. Minimum. And I have yet to see someone grab their teammate and stick their smelly glove in said teammates face.

Finally, we have reached the "do you even Sports, bro" point of the debate!

Hey, the Warriors’ dynasty may be over*, but they sure do give us stuff to talk about!

* Barring another massive Steph carry job…


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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

Was that a typo or are you actually retarded?

Anyway, the whole point of that photo is it disproves Gobert as being a peacekeeper. No one on MIN is even close to Klay there at that point.

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I guess we can always debate what's worse: confusing career with season ejections OR constantly acting like a "know-it-all" with generally bad sports takes, and resorting to calling people retards......

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Originally Posted by Danno

Finally, we have reached the "do you even Sports, bro" point of the debate!

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It’s a relevant question but sorry if that offends you. I don’t tell you how to lawyer because I don’t have that life experience. But I’ve been involved with this sort of thing firsthand and if I saw someone going after one of my teammates I’d jump in there and do something about it (and I have). Did Draymond go too far? Well yes. Should he be suspended for a few games? Sure.

The whole point of the discussion is whether or not Rudy was peacekeeping and I’m calling serious BS on that. You can call screen shots bullshit all you want but it happened. Shit wasn’t photoshopped.

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Originally Posted by brutah

I guess we can always debate what's worse: confusing career with season ejections OR constantly acting like a "know-it-all" with generally bad sports takes, and resorting to calling people retards......

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Oh boo fucking hoo this is TGR, don’t be such a thin skinned bitch. You never clarified your absurd statement.

PS - this is amusing, are you for real?

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

It’s a relevant question but sorry if that offends you. I don’t tell you how to lawyer because I don’t have that life experience. But I’ve been involved with this sort of thing firsthand and if I saw someone going after one of my teammates I’d jump in there and do something about it (and I have). Did Draymond go too far? Well yes. Should he be suspended for a few games? Sure.

The whole point of the discussion is whether or not Rudy was peacekeeping and I’m calling serious BS on that. You can call screen shots bullshit all you want but it happened. Shit wasn’t photoshopped.

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And you double down! Bravo! And assume that I haven't played competitive sports simply because I didn't answer the question and instead just laughed at it. Double bravo!

There's a reason "do you even XXXX, bro" is a meme that ridicules the person saying it. It's not a relevant question and it presupposes that all those people who do sports agree with you, and they don't. It presupposes that your personal life experience trumps the life experiences that everyone else might have.

In this discussion so far you called someone a "retard" (seriously?) and pulled out a meme-d response with a straight face and doubled down on it. I think we've seen enough.

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

Oh boo fucking hoo this is TGR, don’t be such a thin skinned bitch. You never clarified your absurd statement.

PS - this is amusing, are you for real?

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Ironic post preservation.

Haven’t you heard we’re bringing “retard” back? There was a whole discussion about it on this forum.

And fine, you played competitively and still don’t get it? Ever broken up an altercation by putting your arms around the neck of an opposing player? It’s just not done that way, for obvious reasons.


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I’m cracking up.

Anyone taking the over on Draymond? (9.5 games)

Could use $37; that’s 1/2 tank of gas in my kid’s car…


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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

This thread kills me every year, same arguments, same players.

Good stuff fellas.

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I feel like I'm going to need to bump this to the top of each page as this continues to unfold lol.

Just for fun - lol...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm_259AwB9M

PatBev is hilarious:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/HhJFSjYPdi




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