Return of the R/R - Heritage Lab 132 - Dedicated Thread
I’m in the stevens pass corridor and I’m getting more use out of them than i expected. As for ride quality; i have 180 /118mm/ 2400gr skis with Shifts that were intended for deep days inbounds, and after a direct comparison I’ve been preferring my 190 C132’s with Plum Oazo’s in every way, enough to carefully consider a heavy pair of 200’s later on just for resort use.
They are ridiculously responsive, swing weight and length are so easy to work terrain and have a great time. I wish i was better at describing it all, but i have a similar stance to what you described and the less I think about how to drive the ski the better they do. Stand on them and make whatever turn you feel like. Completely instinctive and effortless on any soft snow so far for me.
Specific uses that blow me away: all types of tree skiing; dense, steep, gladed. Go as fast as you want and shut them down any moment you want. Any super deep/high hazard touring day, these are my weapon- low angle terrain is still so fun. Incredibly stable and settled for landing airs.
I more or less bring them any day there’s new snow and I have the legs for a 1900 gr ski on the uphills. I’m not terribly articulate like some of the ski reviewers around here, but if I blew them up I’d replace them at the first opportunity without hesitation, and i now get why Marshal has 132’s and a skinny ski for his entire touring quiver. I could live that way now too.
They are straight up the most ridiculous fun soft snow touring weapon I’ve had.
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3pin, maybe not the exact answer you're looking for, but I've got C132 mounted alpine at the moment and have had more fun skiing them on inbounds pow days (twice at Alpental) than expected. FR132 probably better at that, but C132 is no slouch.
I planned to mount them with inserts to swap alpine and race-style pin bindings, but haven't gotten to the latter despite having bindings and skins. I will, but also have Lotus 124s mounted for touring and the ~300g weight difference per ski factors in my hesitancy. The Lotus is good, the C132 is likely better, but no A/B comparison on same boots yet. I prioritize speed on the uphill enough that the weight eats at my brain. As mounted the C132 is an occasional midweek pow resort day or other mechanical assist day. Once I eventually get both bindings on there I anticipate using them 50/50 human vs. mechanical access.
From your name, guessing your on tele bindings but happy to loan them out if you're around a 315mm alpine BSL.
Super helpful from you and riff with the info above. Except that my hemming and hawing looks like it cost me as the 190 C132 is now sold out :mad:
It's not not a huge quiver need, but definitely a design I was very intrigued to try. Both of your approaches is where I was thinking... deep touring days and trying them out for occasional inbounds pow. The FR is tempting, but I already have a lot of overlap with resort pow boards (no more teleing, it's all alpine and AT now). I'm usually at Alpental, and would love to still check those out some day if there's a 326bsl would fit. Maybe I'll get a crack on the second-hand market some day?
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c132 first day review
TL;DR - they are the (stoopidly fun, surfy pow touring) droids you’re looking for. Get them while you can.
SO thrilled I managed to score some c132, 190s. They are to replace my broken dedicated powder touring skis. Review is with this perspective.
Mounted with alpinist 10’s at 9.5 back from center per Marshall’s recommendation. My current boot is the scarpa Quattro XT. I’m 185#, 6’ and my favorite in bounds skis are 196 OG protest, 192 ULGPO, 187 XXL, 184 OG m102, 187 bonafide. Backcountry skis I’ve liked include the Fischer Hannibal 100, k2 backlash, praxis yeti (all in the 18x size). First time R/R user, long time reader. I generally like to mount praxis back 1cm. Everything else goes on the line.
I have most of one day on the c132s at Olympic Valley in a storm. Conditions were a mix of medium density untracked to cut up mid shin (OS says 44” in the last 5 days) pow along with some really really nice chalky windboard (chalky windboard face shots, what!?) and of course the obligatory icy cat track and occasional groomer section.
It’s important to note that I skied hard on my beloved OG protests/dukes/Mach130s bell to bell the day prior and katana 108s/dukept/Mach130s bell to bell the day before that (winter is finally here, yay!). Read: my whole body started the day tired and stiff.
The first run was down a “groomer” to get from far east to KT. Said groomer was actually covered in about 4-6” of medium density pow. On the chair up, I thought to myself “this is probably not going to be the ideal intro to these skis” and “I don’t think it actually snowed enough last night…”
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SURPRISE! This is the most “fun” and intuitive bc ski I’ve ever been on (where “fun” is like cheerful kids frolicking in the park, not to be confused with “fun” like Duke nukem with a rocket launcher…maybe some whispers of that too). Mind completely blown.
Mount point is spot on.
They are MUCH more versatile than I thought an R/R would be. Everything from the 4-6” untracked on a groomer to fresh soft wind buff/chalk to cut up medium density pow was super fun and very intuitive whether you wanted big or small turns, high or low speeds. They were more stable (in soft snow and in a surfy way) and less chattery than I thought a carbon ski would be. Of course, they can pivot fast. My use case for these skis doesn’t really involve Mach looney. Today I skied them faster in the resort than I probably ever will in the bc. Not sure if I found their limit. Was having so much fun (and was carrying so much built up fatigue), I didn’t need to. I’m definitely looking forward to pressuring the tips more and more as I get more confidence in their behavior in deep snow. I have a suspicion there is even more fun to unlock as I start to learn the finer points of driving an R/R ski.
As a result of the above versatility, I have a feeling I may tour on them more than expected. I might even take them out at the resort on occasion when like on this day I just feel tired and want a really fun, light, easy pivoty, surfy ride in a bunch of new snow. The words that come to mind are “video game skiing.” Just think whatever turn shape you want and it happens. Want to rail? Pressure the tips, lean in and load up. Want to slash or dump speed? Just pivot and whoosh. Want to send? Point and shoot!
Did MO call this the ultimate good times ski? I see why. For their purpose in my quiver as a pow touring ski, I’m absolutely thrilled.
Icy groomers, icy moguls and firm bumpy cat tracks are not very fun or confidence inspiring. No one is surprised. Fortunately, I don’t find too much of that in the bc…
Really can’t wait to get some touring days in on these beauties. After today, I find myself pondering if these and my yetis are the only touring skis I need.
Cold-dead-hands skis after day one.
Return of the R/R - Heritage Lab 132 - Dedicated Thread
Hear hear! 🤠
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SO thrilled I managed to score some c132, 190s.
Cold-dead-hands skis after day one.
Dammit. Really regretting missing out on those 190s. Glad you scored and are enjoying them.
Anyone miraculously not feeling them and looking to sell?
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I purchased the ski trab TR1 and the 120 mm brakes look like they just might fit
I likely won’t mount them up
Until
I get new AT boots
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Northwest facing trees + c132s = best turns of the weekend!