Ukraine

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Originally Posted by MTT

I need to nail this down but

The tv just said a Russian motor platoon surrendered to the Ukrainian military. Said they didn’t know they were there to kill Ukrainians

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“The tv just said”.... say that out loud to yourself.

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Originally Posted by Kevo

Lots of footage of Russian troops being largely unopposed. Looks like Ukraine's air force is basically no longer functional on day one. Entire columns of Ukrainian tanks have been destroyed by Russian helicopters and fixed wing ground strikes.

Not looking good for Ukraine at the moment. How long can they be expected to put up a fight on the ground in a conventional war while Russia has complete air superiority?

My money is on Zelenskyy surrendering to try to limit civilian deaths, a Russian puppet regime being put in place and a prolonged guerrilla warfare campaign against Russian occupation by Ukrainian nationalists.

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Yeah, seems likely, but I have trouble believing Putin is actively courting Afghanistan 2.0 here. Pretty sure those cruise missiles yesterday took care of Ukraine's weak air force, did hear about some heavy resistance to Russian land troops in a few places.

When is kaliningrad entering the conversation? Or have I missed it?

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Originally Posted by eleeskiing

“The tv just said”.... say that out loud to yourself.

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That was a calculated statement

You no like?

OK, Boomer

Just saw this show up. Damn straight!Attachment 407283

Right now the tv is interviewing people on the street in Russia. People in Russia who also speak English don’t support the war

To add even homely Russian girls are kinda hot

“ To go wrong in one’s own way, is better than to go right in someone else’s “



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Originally Posted by MTT

Right now the tv is interviewing people on the street in Russia. People in Russia who also speak English don’t support the war

To add even homely Russian girls are kinda hot

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I'm surprised they are ok speaking up against Putin on tv.

I don’t know how everyone else feels but I am still kinda in shock that this is happening. This is crazy shit.

Just crazy feeling detached from it. But not so much.

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Originally Posted by raisingarizona13

I'm surprised they are ok speaking up against Putin on tv.

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Yea. He’s been running roughshod over Russian politics for years but

I’ve met someone Russians they have a line and I would not want to cross it

But Putin might be batshit crazy. Sure looks like it

Maybe. So far from the world. All talk
I think one of Ukraines neighbors sent them some arms. But so far not much else

I guess we’ll find out later how much more Russia did today

I don’t see anything near real time suggesting a big push

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Originally Posted by MTT

Yea. He’s been running roughshod over Russian politics for years but

I’ve met someone Russians they have a line and I would not want to cross it

But Putin might be batshit crazy. Sure looks like it

Maybe. So far from the world. All talk
I think one of Ukraines neighbors sent them some arms. But so far not much else

I guess we’ll find out later how much more Russia did today

I don’t see anything near real time suggesting a big push

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Putin might be losing his marbles...seriously.

Also, probably the most genius move Putin made was supporting Trump in his presidential candidacies. It completely flipped the GOP from being anti-Russia authoritarianism to mildly supporting it. I didn't think it would work when he did it, but sure as shit, here we are.

And some regular padded room posters flipped at that moment as well

Crazy video of those Russian choppers flying in. Can’t believe they left an airfield like that one wide open.

Zelensky did not heed Biden’s warnings as much as he should have. Guy was a comedian/actor. Yes I’m complimenting Biden.




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Originally Posted by Tor-tour

Just saw this show up. Damn straight!Attachment 407283

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Love it but I don't have the same level of faith in my generation. Still glad not to be a Millennial or worse.

It was hard to work today. I wanted the tv on, a computer going and surfing on my phone to keep up with all the action. History was unfolding. What I observed, and it’s possible not all of it is true:

1. The Russians took Chernobyl. Why?

2. Word is Ukraine’s air-force is destroyed, but that is being denied.

3. Lots of fake images running rampant. Stuff from years ago, other parts of the world, summer and out of context.

4. Families really fucking scared.

5. Men 18-60 can’t leave the country.

6. Unverified rumors of the Chechens fighting on BOTH sides. Wtf?

7. Sanctions, but not cutting Moscow out of SWIFT because Germany and the EU doesn’t want to.

8. Military airport 15 miles from Kyiv taken by the Russians early in the day and then supposedly retaken by Ukraine.

9. Civilian casualties.

10. Shit blown up.

11. Rumors that 10,000 automatic rifles are being given to civilians to defend Kyiv.

12. Biden Presser.

13. Supposed mobile crematoriums in the field so Russia can hide their tracks.

This is a war in fast forward.

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Originally Posted by wolfelot

It was hard to work today. I wanted the tv on, a computer going and surfing on my phone to keep up with all the action. History was unfolding. What I observed, and it’s possible not all of it is true:

1. The Russians took Chernobyl. Why?

2. Word is Ukraine’s air-force is destroyed, but that is being denied.

3. Lots of fake images running rampant. Stuff from years ago, other parts of the world, summer and out of context.

4. Families really fucking scared.

5. Men 18-60 can’t leave the country.

6. Unverified rumors of the Chechens fighting on BOTH sides. Wtf?

7. Sanctions, but not cutting Moscow out of SWIFT because Germany and the EU doesn’t want to.

8. Military airport 15 miles from Kyiv taken by the Russians early in the day and then supposedly retaken by Ukraine.

9. Civilian casualties.

10. Shit blown up.

11. Rumors that 10,000 automatic rifles are being given to civilians to defend Kyiv.

12. Biden Presser.

13. Supposed mobile crematoriums in the field so Russia can hide their tracks.

This is a war in fast forward.

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SWIFT thing is particularly surprising. Why not cut that?

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Originally Posted by bennymac

And some regular padded room posters flipped at that moment as well

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Yup. Pretty wild. I'm not going to name names but several examples of posters here who flipped/were duped.

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Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

SWIFT thing is particularly surprising. Why not cut that?

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Fuck Germany and the EU. That is the only thing that will get Putin's attention and being tried as a war criminal in the Hague with any and all of his assets subject to seizure.

IF enough oligarchs start losing money by the billions do they collectively off Putin ? I know it might lead to another Putin but the can is kicked a bit further down the road....

If you had a $100B thanks to Putin's regime is it really a big deal you now have $80B?

Why no mention of sanctions on Belarus fuckers?


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Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

SWIFT thing is particularly surprising. Why not

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Oil payments. Western interests. Maybe in a while

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Originally Posted by Cono Este

Why no mention of sanctions on Belarus fuckers?


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I think they're already under maximum sanctions from the shit when they forced the passenger plane down and whatnot.

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Originally Posted by 4matic

Oil payments. Western interests. Maybe in a while

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It's too bad the last admin ditched the deal we had with Iran. That may have been helpful during these times in this regard to marginalize Russia more.

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Originally Posted by 4matic

Oil payments. Western interests. Maybe in a while

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This. Would still be more painful for Russia than anyone else, but for certain individual entities in the west it would be very difficult to bear, maybe more than they could bear. Still, I agree that it should be done and I think France has indicated they would be open to it. Could also move the world away from using USD, although I'm not entirely clear on why (or even if that's accurate), but supposedly that's made Biden hesitant to really push for it.