Fear and Loathing, a Rat Flu Odyssey

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Originally Posted by Asspen

Sounds like we were dealing with hospital capacity issues long before a pandemic reared it's ugly head....

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the problem is that no one can afford HC

Not sure how many of you are living this...

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Originally Posted by liv2ski

Not sure how many of you are living this...

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Agreed. Life was so much less stressful when they just kept those racist, homophobic, anti immigrant, religious anti science opinions to themselves and stayed under those rocks. Trump gave them a soapbox and enablement via bringing them together out from under those rocks..

OSU discovery of hemp against COVID-19 progresses

CORVALLIS – The Oregon State University scientist who led the groundbreaking discovery that a pair of hemp compounds can block the coronavirus from entering human cells thinks that pre-clinical trials will occur within a few months. Pre-clinical research involves using cell cultures or animal models to test the safety and efficacy of a new drug candidate.

Researcher Richard van Breemen said the trials are required by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration before clinical testing on humans can begin.

“We need pre-clinical trials to prove the efficacy of what we discovered, and I think that will happen very soon, in the next few months,” the researcher with OSU’s Global Hemp Innovation Center said.

Three weeks ago, van Breemen, along with his colleague Ruth Muchiri and five collaborators from Oregon Health & Science University published a study in the Journal of Natural Products that showed hemp compounds identified by a chemical screening technique invented at OSU display the ability to prevent infection from the virus that causes COVID-19. The study continues to generate significant attention from around the globe. Several companies have expressed interest in collaborating with OSU for further work on the hemp compounds, according to van Breemen.

The compounds are identified as CBGA and CBDA, and the spike protein is the same drug target used in COVID-19 and antibody therapy.

“These cannabinoid acids are abundant in hemp and in many hemp extracts,” van Breemen said. “The are not controlled substances like THC and have a good safety profile in humans.” The researcher said that natural products are the source of about half of all prescription medicines in use today as well as the source or inspiration for about two thirds of all current cancer drugs.

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Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Agreed. Life was so much less stressful when they just kept those racist, homophobic, anti immigrant, religious anti science opinions to themselves and stayed under those rocks. Trump gave them a soapbox and enablement via bringing them together out from under those rocks..

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And while painful, it's good to know who they are. :mad:

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Originally Posted by SumJongGuy

Agreed. Life was so much less stressful when they just kept those racist, homophobic, anti immigrant, religious anti science opinions to themselves and stayed under those rocks. Trump gave them a soapbox and enablement via bringing them together out from under those rocks..

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Right back at you. Happier than ever.

Libtards are done to me. As I may be to them.

Great that is how society crumbles.

Wake the F$uck Up.

The Government is out of your money honey.

How is that border crisis going. I see no news so it must be roses.
Train Robberies
No paying for goods in Democratic led cities
Ivermectin will work in other countries but not ours?
Masks Work, Vaccines do not let you catch it or spread it, Lab Leak...You guys are so Woke yet you are not awake though.

What about the other mammals getting the Rona?

Keep regurgitating the party line. You are heading in the wrong direction and loosing followers.

GO CANADIAN TRUCKERS!

Also, I do not identify as a Racist, Homophobe, Xeno, but as a Black Female.

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Originally Posted by KQ

The compounds are identified as CBGA and CBDA, and the spike protein is the same drug target used in COVID-19 and antibody therapy.

“These cannabinoid acids are abundant in hemp and in many hemp extracts,” van Breemen said. “The are not controlled substances like THC and have a good safety profile in humans.” The researcher said that natural products are the source of about half of all prescription medicines in use today as well as the source or inspiration for about two thirds of all current cancer drugs.

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It's surprising that no one (that I've heard of) has touted using CBD to prevent Covid considering this research.

someone deserves another time out. Or a nap. Or a goddamn lesson in basic English. Until then, maybe just get back to delivering those pizzas?

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Originally Posted by NakedShorts

GO CANADIAN TRUCKERS!

Also, I do not identify as a Racist, Homophobe, Xeno, but as a Black Female.

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You don't identify as racist but cheer on racists. Curious.

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Originally Posted by CarlMega

someone deserves another time out. Or a nap. Or a goddamn lesson in basic English. Until then, maybe just get back to delivering those pizzas?

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oh shit I would love a pizza. good call.

NS is one of our resident racists. Have him on ignore since his Muslim Fear period right on through his "Only good colored immigrant is a dead colored immigrant. Totally on message for him.

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Originally Posted by NakedShorts

Right back at you. Happier than ever.

Also, I do not identify as a Racist, Homophobe, Xeno, but as a Black Female.

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Sugarloafer, is that you? Where’s Bklyn when we need her?

The barely comprehensible stream of consciousness screed was at least mildly entertaining.

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Originally Posted by Tri-Ungulate

Sugarloafer, is that you? Where’s Bklyn when we need her?

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I was thinking Sugarloafer as well.

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Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper

I was thinking Sugarloafer as well.

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Coffee out nose. Good ol loofa.

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Originally Posted by wooley12

NS is one of our resident racists. Have him on ignore since his Muslim Fear period right on through his "Only good colored immigrant is a dead colored immigrant. Totally on message for him.

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I never said that and after checking my post history I can confirm 0 posts of the sort.

Keep on yanking your chain, wearing, your mask, and make sure to wash your hands.

Stay Safe

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Originally Posted by KQ

OSU discovery of hemp against COVID-19 progresses

CORVALLIS – The Oregon State University scientist who led the groundbreaking discovery that a pair of hemp compounds can block the coronavirus from entering human cells thinks that pre-clinical trials will occur within a few months. Pre-clinical research involves using cell cultures or animal models to test the safety and efficacy of a new drug candidate.

Researcher Richard van Breemen said the trials are required by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration before clinical testing on humans can begin.

“We need pre-clinical trials to prove the efficacy of what we discovered, and I think that will happen very soon, in the next few months,” the researcher with OSU’s Global Hemp Innovation Center said.

Three weeks ago, van Breemen, along with his colleague Ruth Muchiri and five collaborators from Oregon Health & Science University published a study in the Journal of Natural Products that showed hemp compounds identified by a chemical screening technique invented at OSU display the ability to prevent infection from the virus that causes COVID-19. The study continues to generate significant attention from around the globe. Several companies have expressed interest in collaborating with OSU for further work on the hemp compounds, according to van Breemen.

The compounds are identified as CBGA and CBDA, and the spike protein is the same drug target used in COVID-19 and antibody therapy.

“These cannabinoid acids are abundant in hemp and in many hemp extracts,” van Breemen said. “The are not controlled substances like THC and have a good safety profile in humans.” The researcher said that natural products are the source of about half of all prescription medicines in use today as well as the source or inspiration for about two thirds of all current cancer drugs.

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Alright but shotgun hits are probably still a bad idea..

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Originally Posted by NakedShorts

I never said that and after checking my post history I can confirm 0 posts of the sort.

Keep on yanking your chain, wearing, your mask, and make sure to wash your hands.

Stay Safe

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Will do honey. Don't Breathe On Me.

To clarify what I said earlier--when we canceled surgery because the hospital was full with flu or for some other reason, it wasn't every hospital in town, let alone hospitals all over the state, region, or country and it lasted at most a 2-3 days and usually just one. The point that there isn't a lot of excess capacity in hospitals is valid, but there's enough capacity to handle the load in even a bad flu season with only minor inconvenience. That is not true with covid. And HCW's don't leave because of the stress of a bad flu season.

This is the exact problem for those folks saying “just increase the ICU capacity” as if it’s like turning a faucet on and off

It was 2 months for an MRI and 6.5 months to get an ACL and i got lucky cuz there was also 3 months of lock down in there

cuz its universel its way leaner up here and we are in the same boat

When I was a resident they expanded the icu into a non-patient care space. When the power went out we found out that the space wasn't on the generator circuit. We had to hand bag several vent patients for a couple of hours until they fixed the cable someone had taken a backhoe to.

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Originally Posted by old goat

When I was a resident they expanded the icu into a non-patient care space. When the power went out we found out that the space wasn't on the generator circuit. We had to hand bag several vent patients for a couple of hours until they fixed the cable someone had taken a backhoe to.

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Jesus that sounds tense

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Originally Posted by Summer

Talking with a couple mates who work at the local hospital about how it's all going.

One mate told me "We've got beds, but the bed isn't the problem. There's stacks of them lining hallways and in storage places. The real problem is there's nowhere to put those beds to treat patients properly, and even if there was, there's not enough staff to take care of the people in those beds. So patients can all lie on beds in hallways or wherever there's space, but there will be no fixed equipment nearby, a portable oxygen bottle that'll eventually run out and need to be changed fairly regularly, no call button to push if the patient is in distress or crashing, and even if there was, there may not be someone coming to check on them for quite a while if we're over capacity. You do the math."

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respectfully, Summer, a bed in a hallway is not a "hospital bed" - a 'hospital bed' is in an equipped patient care space.
Simply bringing more beds into a hospital does not create more hospitalization capacity - And a crucial element of hospital care is medical care staffing.
from my perspective, just bringing more beds into a hospital compounds a problem. There are probably situations where it is the best that can be done ( like natural disasters ( I would be curious the circumstance under which the hospital goat was at put ventilators in non-medical areas... ))
... there are probably situations where it is the best that can be done, but that's not covid in 2022.

looking forward to the next pathologic variant ( or the next pandemic ).
pretty-much out of Patience for the Unvaccinated.

beds in a hospital do not equal "hospital beds ( / hospitalization care. ) "

thanks for listening. skiJ

okay^^^ That makes more sense - Thank you.

skiJ