New Season, New Tires, New Thread

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Originally Posted by adrenalated

This. Strava tracks it. No brain power from me.
It's handy, since I know roughly when I can expect components to fail, I can preemptively order and have replacements on hand.

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If you want to get even fancier, the ProBikeGarage app will sync with Strava and track/recommend service intervals on various parts in terms of miles/hours/elapsed time. It is a bit much though and I don't really use it--and I had to turn off naggy notifications like "it has been a month, go check your pressure"

Could also be a convenient place to jot down notes--stuff like what suspension/tire pressures you like on a given bike, what pads you have on it, what kind of mineral oil you used, etc.

I wish I could get Strava to automatically recognize (or guess) which bike I am riding from my wahoo uploads. In theory it should be able to figure it out from sensor data if I put different sensors on different bikes. E.g. throw a cadence sensor on the gravel bike, a speed sensor on the longer-travel mtb (so it stops auto-pausing when I get real slow on the climbs), and assume it is the short travel MTB when I have no sensor data.

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian

https://www.bike-discount.de/en/sear...arch=kryptotal

I have DH casing Krypt Rear and Argotal that I will probably sell once I get some backup Enduro casings delivered. Worth the wait getting them shipped from Germany. Even in Euros and with $50USD shipping it was cheaper than going down the street and buying Maxxis that will blow up or wear out in a week.

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I'll take the DH casing Kryptotal rear.

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Originally Posted by mildbill.

As requested.

Put the Hillbilly on after time on the EC beach, caught a day at Lynn Woods before heading to EU. Granite at LW grips great and it was dry so the T9 rubber wasn't 100% necessary.

First riding in EU was in Girona (thanks to Trek Store Girona for stocking an 11spd XT - no thanks to United for whatever they did to necessitate it.) Girona trails are mostly social trails - loose pebbly shale embedded in hard clay, rutted to varying degrees. Really liked the tire combo there, esp having some extra rear tire braking on loose steep euro turns. I always find EU trails run one degree of difficulty higher than US ratings.

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Good to hear! The images you uploaded got hosed somehow BTW.
I never got my Hillbillies on the bike last winter ... hopefully more time this year to get out and ride, and justify mounting the winter shoes.

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian

https://www.bike-discount.de/en/sear...arch=kryptotal

I have DH casing Krypt Rear and Argotal that I will probably sell once I get some backup Enduro casings delivered. Worth the wait getting them shipped from Germany. Even in Euros and with $50USD shipping it was cheaper than going down the street and buying Maxxis that will blow up or wear out in a week.

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I really like the Kryptotal too. But, first I had an Argotal up front and thought it was semi to very sketchy on hard pack and rock. Seemed considerably less versatile than a Shorty for a mid-spike, probably because: more spiky = more squirmy.

I know many run the supersoft compound, but I think the soft is plenty for my needs. I think high speed/high G jump line stuff with hardpack berms the supersoft might be too squirmy. Also the wear on them is minimal. 3 days of practice + 2 days of racing you can barely tell I have even used them. MaxxGrip Maxxis look like ass after 2 days at Big Sky.

Wow! The kryptototals sounds very intriguing.

What issues did you have going from an assguy to a krypto front? Intermediate driftage? Greater lean angle requirement?

This was touched on upthread; however, I'm interred in WTs and others updates.

Thx!

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FB 60 TPI 3C Maxx Terra Exo TR vs. new Continental Trail Endurance builds. OEM choice, one or the other. Think the Trail Endurance is more damp?
For the Maxxis "FB" factory build, as in oem? front boot? typo?

I've somehow 100% avoided Maxxis over the last 20 years, no reference. Haven't tried the new Continental builds so also no clue. Choice is takeoffs in above construction.

thanks

To me more specific, Continental Trail casing more supportive then above maxxis mumbo jumbo? kryptototals/DHF dissector. Above rabling is the included choices, not my freedom choice

With the caveat that I haven't ridden the Trail casing, but have ridden the Enduro and DH... in terms of sidewall stiffness, I'd put the Enduro somewhere in between Maxxis EXO+ & DD. DH is quite stiff. Extrapolating backwards, the Trail casing probably rides like Maxxis EXO.

Their rubber is more like Michelin's than Maxxis. The Super Soft feels more like chilled gummy bears, with a very slow rebound. Soft is a lot more pliable/faster rebound. Judging by the wear on my tires, I think the outer soft layer is thicker than MaxxTerra (which seems to wear through to the harder core really fast). I'd guess that the Endurance rubber compound will be very long lasting, probably like Maxxis DC.

I think in your above question, FB means the white letters. Both casings will probably be on the lighter end, with the Contis a bit stiffer and quite a bit longer wearing. Dissector in 3C MaxxTerra will last maybe 3 weeks of riding before it looks like shredded cheese.

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Originally Posted by skinipenem

Wow! The kryptototals sounds very intriguing.

What issues did you have going from an assguy to a krypto front? Intermediate driftage? Greater lean angle requirement?

This was touched on upthread; however, I'm interred in WTs and others updates.

Thx!

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I don't know how to articulate it exactly. After running Ass/DHRII only for 3+ seasons I was definitely a bit slower on familiar tracks for the first day or two. Finding the rollover/bite point took a good 10-20 laps in the park. The braking power far surpasses DHRII in my opinion. Once you learn this you realize you can brake later into turns and then when you discover how much lateral traction there is and find the lean over point you can really just send it into some turns without the brakes with confidence.

If you look back in this thread I said I would never switch from Ass/DHRII......glad I went back on that notion and tried these. These tires are the truth.

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian

Confirmed: Conti Kryptotals are absolutely incredible. Raced them hard this weekend at BME with every kind of condition from blown out to peanut butter to literally racing down tracks with rivers flowing in them. Just fucking insane tires. The enduro casings are plenty tough.

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Thanks for the review!

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian

I don't know how to articulate it exactly. After running Ass/DHRII only for 3+ seasons I was definitely a bit slower on familiar tracks for the first day or two. Finding the rollover/bite point took a good 10-20 laps in the park. The braking power far surpasses DHRII in my opinion. Once you learn this you realize you can brake later into turns and then when you discover how much lateral traction there is and find the lean over point you can really just send it into some turns without the brakes with confidence.

If you look back in this thread I said I would never switch from Ass/DHRII......glad I went back on that notion and tried these. These tires are the truth.

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Rolling on front Minion DHR II and back Aggressors in the Front Range right now. It is what you see on tons of non-downhill bikes on I-70 and I-25 and it is holding well in current conditions.

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian

https://www.bike-discount.de/en/sear...arch=kryptotal

I have DH casing Krypt Rear and Argotal that I will probably sell once I get some backup Enduro casings delivered. Worth the wait getting them shipped from Germany. Even in Euros and with $50USD shipping it was cheaper than going down the street and buying Maxxis that will blow up or wear out in a week.

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If anybody doesn't want to go through Europe you can find these cheap in the US as well. I've gotten a full set of Kryptotals in F-DH-SuperSoft and R-DH-Soft plus an Argotal DH Soft for between $50-65 each shipped. Working on finding a Xynotal DH-SS but best price I've seen is $79. I'm sure as the season closes out there will be lots of sales. Right now there's still lots of "damaged packaging" sales and stackable coupons at Level 9, Jenson, Amazon, and the like.

The enduro casings tend to be cheaper even. I've seen a bunch in the $50 range. I'm pretty stoked to try mine out for the late summer/fall. My Assguy is chunking on the knobs and isn't long for this world.

The most hard to find ones have been the krypt enduro soft 29x2.4. I couldn’t find them so ran trail casing on my sb130 TLR. All the stuff about grip and rolling are true but man I couldn’t get them to hold air at 22psi when I got into the chunky stuff compared to old assegais. Running them 26-28 rear psi helps. Even tried the lightweight insert. Bought an enduro casing today on “thunder mountain” that I will swap in as a change.


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Originally Posted by aBradAbroad

The most hard to find ones have been the krypt enduro soft 29x2.4. I couldn’t find them so ran trail casing on my sb130 TLR. All the stuff about grip and rolling are true but man I couldn’t get them to hold air at 22psi when I got into the chunky stuff compared to old assegais. Running them 26-28 rear psi helps. Even tried the lightweight insert. Bought an enduro casing today on “thunder mountain” that I will swap in as a change.


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Thanks for this. Was wondering about the trail casing as I usually go for the lightest casing I can get away with, but 26-28 psi doesn’t sound that sweet to hold air.


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ContiCoolaid sounds aight, you enabling bastids... I followed suit and ordered some from Germany.

Been enjoying the Ground Controls on the Spur for the dust-over-hard high mountain stuff but they give up a lot in cornering and in the looser surfaces... I'll keep em for their appropriate duty but will give the new hotnass a try for fall/winter all-arounding.

Gonna try the Kryptotal enduro/soft on the front with Xynotal enduro/soft on the rear.

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Originally Posted by hick

Thanks for this. Was wondering about the trail casing as I usually go for the lightest casing I can get away with, but 26-28 psi doesn’t sound that sweet to hold air.


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I will add that at 200lbs I should probably be riding higher psi in the chunky stuff than I was previously and the 26 psi did feel better than it would have on the assguy but still generally agree. I’ll report back if enduro casing makes a difference.


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Originally Posted by Andeh

With the caveat that I haven't ridden the Trail casing, but have ridden the Enduro and DH... in terms of sidewall stiffness, I'd put the Enduro somewhere in between Maxxis EXO+ & DD. DH is quite stiff. Extrapolating backwards, the Trail casing probably rides like Maxxis EXO.

Their rubber is more like Michelin's than Maxxis. The Super Soft feels more like chilled gummy bears, with a very slow rebound. Soft is a lot more pliable/faster rebound. Judging by the wear on my tires, I think the outer soft layer is thicker than MaxxTerra (which seems to wear through to the harder core really fast). I'd guess that the Endurance rubber compound will be very long lasting, probably like Maxxis DC.

I think in your above question, FB means the white letters. Both casings will probably be on the lighter end, with the Contis a bit stiffer and quite a bit longer wearing. Dissector in 3C MaxxTerra will last maybe 3 weeks of riding before it looks like shredded cheese.

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Thanks, presumably could sell Maxxis takeoffs easer. Probably just get what I want to try after the fact. Kryptotal F enduro/soft, Xynotal enduro/soft

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Originally Posted by Falcon3

If anybody doesn't want to go through Europe you can find these cheap in the US as well. I've gotten a full set of Kryptotals in F-DH-SuperSoft and R-DH-Soft plus an Argotal DH Soft for between $50-65 each shipped. Working on finding a Xynotal DH-SS but best price I've seen is $79. I'm sure as the season closes out there will be lots of sales. Right now there's still lots of "damaged packaging" sales and stackable coupons at Level 9, Jenson, Amazon, and the like.

The enduro casings tend to be cheaper even. I've seen a bunch in the $50 range. I'm pretty stoked to try mine out for the late summer/fall. My Assguy is chunking on the knobs and isn't long for this world.

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Where are you seeing enduro casings stateside?

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I bought a rear today from some site called Thunder Mountain Bikes that I found on google shopping.


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Originally Posted by aBradAbroad

I bought a rear today from some site called Thunder Mountain Bikes that I found on google shopping.


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They are legit. I've bought small things from them a few times recently.

Are these Kryptotal/Xynotals in an enduro casing going to be faster rolling than a 2.6 Assegai exo+ maxxgrip?

I find the Assegais that came on my Ripmo (with 35mm rims) to roll slower than I'd like, and I don't think I really push the bike hard enough to warrant the extra grip. Wouldn't mind something that rolled a little faster, at least in the rear.

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Originally Posted by singlesline

Are these Kryptotal/Xynotals in an enduro casing going to be faster rolling than a 2.6 Assegai exo+ maxxgrip?

I find the Assegais that came on my Ripmo (with 35mm rims) to roll slower than I'd like, and I don't think I really push the bike hard enough to warrant the extra grip. Wouldn't mind something that rolled a little faster, at least in the rear.

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A paddle mud tire would be faster than dual Assegai MG. I have no idea why Ibis continues to spec dual Assegais on the Ripmo, it's the dumbest tire combo on a bike that is marketed to be an efficient almost-enduro bike. Throw an Aggressor, Kryptotal, Xynotal, whatever else on there and feel like you're riding an e-bike

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Originally Posted by Falcon3

A paddle mud tire would be faster than dual Assegai MG. I have no idea why Ibis continues to spec dual Assegais on the Ripmo, it's the dumbest tire combo on a bike that is marketed to be an efficient almost-enduro bike. Throw an Aggressor, Kryptotal, Xynotal, whatever else on there and feel like you're riding an e-bike

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Should I just ditch it on the front too then?

It does feel REALLY draggy in spots. Like coming out of a turn, into a little down followed by a grade reversal or jump, I just can't get speed back. Maybe I could counteract some of that with skill: trust the tires to grip and rail the turn harder, but it is really noticeable on the Ripmo, especially if there is any softness to the dirt.

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Originally Posted by singlesline

Should I just ditch it on the front too then?

It does feel REALLY draggy in spots. Like coming out of a turn, into a little down followed by a grade reversal or jump, I just can't get speed back. Maybe I could counteract some of that with skill: trust the tires to grip and rail the turn harder, but it is really noticeable on the Ripmo, especially if there is any softness to the dirt.

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Dependson the terrain you're ridning IMO. MaxGrip is incredibly draggy, so if you're not riding steep slimy slabs or greasy tree roots it might be overkill. if I was riding BHam or Squamish all the time I'd ride MaxxGrip, but even in the inland NW, it's not needed the vast majority of the time. I ran a front DHF MaxxGrip for about five rides before I swapped back to MaxxTerra because I could feel the bike slowing down on anything not super steep. Did the Ripmo come stock with MaxxGrip? Mine came with MaxxTerra Assegais.

A Magic Mary might slot in nicely up front, it's still got the intermediate knobs of the Assegai for grip at most lean angles, they're just not as deep and pronounced so it rolls faster. Or an Assegai in maxxTerra will be noticeably faster too. I have a Kryptotal waiting to go on my bike, but all reviews have been that it's also faster than assegai but with little reduction in traction.