i saw a cat down here on shifts and soul 7s. s/lab mtn boots.
no poles. lapping the park. in fkn nc.
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i saw a cat down here on shifts and soul 7s. s/lab mtn boots.
no poles. lapping the park. in fkn nc.
My boss, a good dude, called and asked about AT stuff. Solid type II skier. His goal was to skin up the ski hill prior to opening. I recommended he put shifts on his mindbenders, get some skins and cochise and have some fun. He asked if he should get a beacon, probe and shovel. Told him to take an avy 1 course and see what he thinks. He said nah, just going to skin up the resort. I don't see anything wrong with that.
How many of those people actually own skins?Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
What do you think the Shifts sold to Skins sold ratio is?
The Marker was the king of the frame binding until Salomon released the Guardian in 2012, our shop sold more Guardians that first year than any other shop in Canada. I remember doing a sales/inventory report back then and we sold 1 pair of skins for every 13 pairs of guardians thats first season.
Yes, the backcountry scene was very different back in 2012, but still everyone was buying the latest greatest backcountry binding but not skins? How were they walking uphill in their new guardians?
A more important question is how many people with skins can dolphin turn?
My buddy once duct taped rag wool socks around his skis as skins, and it worked!
I dunno... nothing wrong with people buying aspirational gear. Gotta start somewhere. buy the bindings now just in case, then buy the skins a day or two before you decide to go for your first tour. I get it.
Like none of you have ever bought skis too long and stiff, or set your DIN too high cuz you just might go bigger than ususal.
I see lots of shifts at whistler/blackcomb which will likely never walk uphill more than twice a year. Or maybe not until springtime. or not until a few seasons from now. that's all good man.
as for walking boots? well shit... sometimes dancing on the bar is just as important as skiing.
Now they just need to make those shifts with a little bit less fuckery to setup for that target market. Who wants to buy mine ;-)?
The more "soul 7" copies there are for the mid market, the more likely there are brands to create chargers as a counterpoint. instead of somewhere sloppy between those two.
I don't understand why people don't buy for the conditions they actually ski on.
^ you're not wrong Judo. It's still a funny trend like any other though.
Okay, so maybe its not as bad I thought. I just assumed if you were buying shifts and mastrales you'd be going into the backcountry. And yes going willy nilly into the backcountry is a horror. But if the shifts to skins ratio really is 10ish:1 then yeah whatever.
Back on new gear, other than Scott, any E1 airbags coming out in 40-45L sizing?
Alpride E1 SuperCap 40 (not sure if it's available in the US though)Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
When they were fairly new to the market the local shop sold out 2 orders of Maestrale at msrp but had a stack of Virus ( the boot not covid) sitting there on sale and discounted so i asked why ... buddy said they don't fit anyone
I think the maestrale might fit a lot of people, my clue would be that they don't fit me
Lange 21/22 XT3 Pro Tour comes in three models - 130, 110, 100
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Dynastar 21/22 - as described earlier, sadly no new sizes for 108/118
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I rather enjoyed this closeup of the hybrid core - kinda explains why it feels so special/dissimilar to a lot of other skis out there.
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Get over yourselves guys. The ski companies dont make money with the 10 pairs of bodacious they sell. Be happy the shift sells so well, it drives prices down and funds further innovation. I for one am happy all those people don’t actually tour. It could get crowded out there.
Thanks for posting the MFree 99 info. Lighter and tighter turning radius than I was hoping for so I’ll probably just go for the “slightly too long” 192cm MFree 108 on Spring deals instead! Lol
Dynastar 21/22 - as described earlier, sadly no new sizes for 108/118
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Its amusing that Dynastar makes pre cut skins for the M Free 108. Props to anyone touring on the 192
It's interesting that the XT3 Tour Pro weights 1520g. It's really not all that far off from the current XT3 weight, but probably skis significantly worse. I guess it's supposed to be a straight up competitor to the Hawx XTD and ZGTP.
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Originally Posted by Benneke10
I keep wondering how long they’ll run those BMT/VWerks molds before 86’ing the series, or if they’ll do updated models. Must’ve been huge investment in those and high manufacturing costs in Germany. Brilliant skis, very happy with the ones I’ve skied, they’re still ahead of their time, but about 200g heavier than the market trends right now. The only touring skis that don’t rattle my fillings out on refrozen corn.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregL
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Yeah...I pushed back and he got whiny, so I never pursued it. I think time has shown his true colors. It was a LONG time ago...over some 2nd or 3rd Gen K2 Seths.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
It’s not really anything to me at this point, but one more piece of data towards answering the question “Is Bushwacka Josh the best PSIA instructor to have ever graced the interwebz?” Probably not.
LOL...got a good chuckle out of that comment!Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
A friend of mine who is a total ripper says the new Salomon Blank is a sick ski and much better both on and off-piste than the QST118.
I've heard the same from a buddy whose been on them a couple of weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Artist Formerly Known as Leavenworth Skier
Can anyone explain what a rocketed boot board is?
Probably this?Attachment 362287Quote:
Originally Posted by turnfarmer
Are rockered boot boards really a thing? It seems extremely stupid. Maybe they help if your boot doesn't flex?
Do they just mean a rockered sole? Because that would actually make sense
Probably held back by the radius I'm sureQuote:
Originally Posted by doebedoe
I bet they can’t stop turning. Some say they’re still going in circles.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Artist Formerly Known as Leavenworth Skier
That’s encouraging. I really liked the QST 106 in soft snow but it lost a lot on firmer groomers. If the on snow feel is better than the tighter turn radius suggests...awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Artist Formerly Known as Leavenworth Skier
I’ve just found that around an 18-m radius is about as tight as I want to go. Smaller than that, and I feel like I end up fighting the type of turn the skis naturally wants to make...just too tight.
XT3 is 1750g so the new boot is a bit lighter, more of a direct comparison to the zero g, just heavier.
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Originally Posted by thejongiest
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New Fischer Transalp boot
looks kinda like the Travers and Maestrale had a baby
Plenty of people doing side country with skis that big or bigger. Not everyone walking is a weight weenie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
Also found this: https://www.fischersports.com/transalp-pro. ZGTP-type options are going to be many! From that vid - interesting that (from what I can tell) they're using a beefier liner for the Pro and Tour/Tour W and a more basic but lighter liner for the TS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Benneke10
Very exciting, will probably walk better and ski worse from the pics / weight. But these are the type of boots I think that are best for most ski touring. The ZGTP is beefier than I really need and I would take some less beef for a better walk mode - but I'm not willing to take the durability and skiability penalty of a 1kg boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by dub_xion
This and Quantum Free slot into a super nice spot. I feel like the XT3 Pro Tour will be right for a lot of people but it's the wrong side of weight to compete on with the ZGTP.
I haven’t been on the ZGTPs, but it looks like the ROM on the Q Frees and Transalp Pros is insanely good and worth a lot, especially when the laps add up. They’re also well-designed for scrambling/scree. Yeah I’m in this slot of not needing a super charger in the b/c but wanting something that will handle some speed and tricky snow and be easy on the up.Quote:
Originally Posted by thejongiest
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I know I'm cunting up even more. but:Quote:
Originally Posted by Conundrum
A ways back, I bought some Bros (street cred) and had some Barons mounted on them and some Solly Quest boots. I usually wake up at 5am and, if I was at a ski place, I'd get up, skin up, ski down. Do a couple laps...then put the skins away and do lift service like a normal human.
It was really just a morning workout. I've thought about getting shifts and ZeroG/Hawx type boot for the same purpose. It was good exercise and I enjoyed it.
anyone catch what the advertised last is supposed to be?Quote:
Originally Posted by dub_xion
guess i'll be waiting until fall 2021 for new touring boots, but i'll echo the excitement of increasing options in this category
Haven’t seen the last width listed anywhere, but my bet would be that the upcoming Wildsnow article will address it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevino
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I hope it's on the narrower side with potential to be punched wider easily...Quote:
Originally Posted by dub_xion
Too many 102mm last boots for us narrow-footed people.
Any thoughts on how different Quantum Free’s are from Quantum Asolo’s?
These or those TransAlps might finally be my upgrade touring boot if I can ever find a shop who carries them.
I hate Scarpa and their horrible last but widespread shop floor placement.
My personal cindarella boot would walk as well as my old beat to sh!t TLT5p and ski a bit more like my Hawx XTD. The XT3 Pro aint it.
That Fischer boot looks like it may be a worthy replacement for my old TLT6.