Well we're back up over 200 (cases) with 7 people in the hospital. Richland reported 34 new cases just today. Weeeeeeeeeee!
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Well we're back up over 200 (cases) with 7 people in the hospital. Richland reported 34 new cases just today. Weeeeeeeeeee!
Well, it's official - WA and OR are open for business. Will it change anything for you? Thinking "no" for me at least for the time being.
When CO opened, it definitely changed shit for me. I don't wear a mask unless a business specifically asks for it. And most around here have signs that say masks are for unvaccinated folks...Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
I also go out to restaurants at will now, and get together with friends (including indoors) with no reservations.
It's really fuckin' nice, if I'm honest.
I’ve been mask free for a few weeks unless the biz requests it or I’m with a kid (my teens is still slowly/barely adjusting, but he’s vaxed)
I have 2 kids that are unvaxed and one of them could be in the high risk category. After reading the “your local epidemiologist” post this morning, I think I’m going back to indoor mask use. The honeymoon is over.
Not all of it is shared with the government forecasting agencies though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted Striker
https://arstechnica.com/science/2016...weather-model/Quote:
Panasonic traces its advantage to the use of weather information collected by airplanes. Back in the 1990s, during the Clinton administration, the US government asked airlines to gather in-situ weather information to prevent icing and other potentially dangerous conditions in flight. The first of these TAMDAR systems was deployed on regional airlines more than a decade ago by a company called AirDat. Panasonic Avionics acquired AirDat in 2013 and created its weather solutions unit.
AirDat and now Panasonic have continued to deploy these TAMDAR sensors on airplanes flying mostly regional routes over the continental United States and, more recently, Europe and parts of Asia. As the planes take off and land, they collect all sorts of useful data for forecast models, creating a vertical profile with wind, temperature, humidity, pressure, and other information. Historically, this kind of detailed data was only available from "soundings" captured by balloons sent twice daily into the atmosphere from various locations.
Panasonic now gathers about 3,500 of these soundings per day, and the number is growing as it adds more planes at a rate of two to three per week, Jacobs said. The original business plan was to sell this weather data to the major government meteorological centers, and Panasonic does that. But it found that by keeping some of the highest resolution data to itself, it could create a global forecast model that competed with the big boys.
Same for me in northern NM and NorCal.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
So you think it's over? Covid outbreak in the memory care facility that is on the sane campus as my mother's independent living residence.
Also, local man, fully vaxxed since Feb. caught Covid from an unvaxxed friend.
Wow, I did not know that. I always assumed it was more open source.Quote:
Originally Posted by abraham
There was an outbreak near me in an assisted living place where several vaccinated residents tested positive but had no symptoms. The only reason they were tested is because unvaccinated care givers and a few newly and unvaccinated residents were sick and so they tested everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
The whole thing was over way faster than earlier outbreaks.
these username are getting a bit much :D
Unless and until serious cases (death, hospitalization, long term symptoms) start going up significantly among vaccinated people in the US or among children not eligible for vaccination I would disagree with reimposing restrictions. At this point everyone besides younger children can get vaccinated. Yes I realize there are people who are immunocompromised who may still be vulnerable--but that will always be the case. It should be clear by now that there will always be a significant minority who will never get vaccinated, there will be no herd immunity, the immunocompromised will be vulnerable indefinitely. And the unvaxed will still be among us, unmasked, un-distancing, unconcerned. Eventually perhaps covid vaccination will be a routine childhood vaccine required for school and that may eventually control endemic covid. For now, we might get another 5% vaccinated until the vaccine is approved for all ages. For the time being this is about as good as it's going to get.
The problem is that in the meantime the virus will mutate, and the existing vaccines may not be effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
So there's a big problem with many people not getting vaccinated.
And ultimately, it may result in additional lockdowns.
Keep in mind that there are 8 billion people in the world and many are not vaccinated.
So if another country has another big wave, they will impose lockdowns, and they economy will suffer and consequently ours.
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It looks like there is an interesting philosophical argument, at least in the US as to whether the policy should focus on individual-level threat or population-level threat. The cdc providing its guidance at an individual-level, while WHO, county of LA, etc. are looking at population-level.
All true but none of that is a reason to reimpose restrictions at this point. Interesting that a couple of the previous posts mention nursing home cases in vaccinated patients who were tested because unvaccinated staff were sick, while the CDC is no longer keeping track of asymptomatic "breakthrough" cases and is not recommending testing for vaccinated contacts. I can understand more caution in a NH though.Quote:
Originally Posted by rod9301
The WHO's primary area of interest are developing countries, most of which have vaccinated very few people, so the individual threat and the population threat are the same. The dilemma the CDC faces--whether to restrict everyone because some people refuse to get vaccinated even though vaccine is easily available--is not an issue in most of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
In door mask mandate appears to be over up here , I went into the craftbrew without a mask hoping they had spares and it wasnt necessary
i'm sure you saw the county's press release today that delta variant is spreading in our county.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
Why are LA County and Israel mandating masks again? Isn't there an issue that the understanding of protection from the delta variant related to J&J is not known and the protection by the pfizer or moderna vax is specific to only hospitalization or severe disease and not related to infections and contagiousness? Maybe I am wrong, but I thought it was unclear at this point. I was under the impression that this statement from the CDC is not supported yet by evidence when considering the delta variant: "If you’ve been around someone who has COVID-19, you do not need to stay away from others or get tested unless you have symptoms"
personally, my primary concern is keeping from dragging it into my home and getting my 2 unvaxed kids sick. next concern is teens getting sick that i know who's parents (or maybe a single parent in a separated couple) that will not allow their minor from getting vaxed (it's pretty frustrating). next concern is me getting infected and spreading to randoms.
if i'm wrong about this stuff, peeps, please point it out. i haven't seen the evidence or a summary of the evidence that makes sense. slavitt's podcast currently feels like a green wash.
Had a new refrigerator delivered yesterday. Guys start walking into house unmasked and I stop them asking are you vaccinated. “No” Could you wear a mask “No, but we can ask Lowe’s to send a vaccinated team at a later date” I have an immunocompromised brother in law ( pretty bad case of Guillaine is Barre) so say I will wear a mask. Reason given for not wearing a mask is it is strenuous work. Thinking that is why you should wear a mask. Food packed in coolers with ice and who knows when a delivery would happen.
What assholes. Just put the fucking masks on when asked...geez.Quote:
Originally Posted by cat in january
This. It should be corporate policy to simply WEAR THE FUCKING MASK when delivering/interacting with people.Quote:
Originally Posted by The SnowShow
Have you met these delivery teams? Bunch of high school drop outs mostly. Companies like Home Depot hire subcontractor delivery groups so they don't have to be directly responsible for those dopes.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
That was the case subcontractors and I was thinking it would be a long time before they rounded up a pair with vaccines.
We have disposable masks at home to help with that kind of circumstance.
You aren't wrong as far as I know. My understanding is that vaccinated asymptomatic carriers are not considered to be significant sources of spread. Whether that applies to Delta I'm not sure. I personally would be more cautious with an under-12 in the house. We have one coming to visit and I will likely stop going to restaurants and will likely wear a mask when I shop, out of an abundance of caution.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
There are the facts, as far as we know them, and there are how well-meaning qualified people interpret them and act on them. Both Israel and LA have seen recent upticks in cases although numbers are still low. Other places with similar upticks have not chosen to reimpose control measures. I don't see how one can fault either.
I've encountered five retail people in the last two days since OR "re-opened".Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
Three were in the local bike shop - all vaxed as soon as they could. Didn't protect one from breaking his clavicle and distal radius three weeks ago...
One was the cashier at the hardware store. She is happy to not have to wear a mask. And she doesn't need to get vaccinated because she already had Covid so her immune system is stronger than mine.
"I did not know that" I said.
The third was the person who brought out our online grocery order at the national chain store in the big city (32K people). She was wearing a mask. Asked if she would be more comfortable if I wore one too. She said she could not care less, and that she was wearing one only because the store required masks on unvaccinated employees. And she wasn't planning on getting one any time soon unless "Joe or Fauci" did something that I did not comprehend.
I chose (uncharacteristically) not to respond...