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enjoy your ski day(s). We know you will!
Sunshine, it’s a powerful drug. Get some
FUCK YEAH !
GO BUZZ !
Regardless of how many maggots ski with you, I hope you feel the warmth and energy of the hundreds of maggots (a grumble of maggots ?) who are cheering you on from around the globe. We love you Buzz.
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Love this.
Buzz - we all thrive being in our natural environment- seems like we all agree - high alpine does it for us. Don’t care if it’s at the roof of the Rockies or a pimple in New Jersey in my case. It invigorates us, gives us perspective, lets us step back from the day to day and take in all the good things. Get out there and do it. Breath deep. Relax. Smile.
Just checking in, readers.
You all can also DM me. I give my number out for free.
Because, Fuck yeah.... shit's rad, yo. Even when it's hard.
BTW, I really appreciate updates from you, Buzz... Keep it flowing...
I have a week of random spring-break time off... give me a ring if you can. It's not like I'm in a meeting somewhere... asking for money... pretending like life is constantly uphill.
Hey Buzz -
Happy to hear you are feeling a little more positive. It’s a bitch to crawl out of that black hole. Give yourself some love for what you are accomplishing
As far as the need to help others before yourself, this little sign in my docs office is always a good reminder
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I came across this yesterday, and found it interesting, and inspiring. thought perhaps other folks checking in here might as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcHpec4qy4k
Hope spring is treating you all well.
I'm having a pretty rough couple weeks at work. Rough going and in a dark place Might have to ditch this gig because it's killing me. Scared to leave without another job lined up. My wife says it's better to do that than have it continue to harm my mental and physical health. It's doing both. Then there's all the macho bullshit about failure, being useless, etc. That's a hard loop to have in my head. I have no plans to check out, I want to be around. EAP at work just changed. Trying to navigate the new process. I need more help than just six talk sessions. I'm really just venting. Hope this thread is the right place for this mental defective.
we take all who show up and even those that just liste
I know this feeling. I don't know about your financial situation but if you can afford it, liberate yourself. You owe yourself that much.
People have a funny way of thinking they can power through, because it's just "work." But the truth of the matter is that we spend the vast majority of our waking hours doing it and it can kill you, literally and figuratively. It's not easy to leave stability, even when it's shitty, because we crave predictability. But liberate. It can't be worse, so it'll almost certainly be better, right?
And no matter what, remember that you don't owe them shit.
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Without a paycheck things dry up pretty darn quick. I'm not a dentist with reserves. And I don't want to use the meager "break glass" funds that we do have. Plus healthcare. That's through my work. COBRA looks expensive. Would I even qualify?
You can get cobra coverage even if you quit.
I can certainly relate to feeling the need to stay. I've stayed in terrible situations for far longer than my mental or physical health should have put up with. I think you might be surprised just how eliminating the bad work situation will change your perspective on your financial or professional (or lack thereof) situation in and of itself for the better, even if objectively your finances don't change or get worse as a result. More than likely, your increased mental health will lead to better and brighter things.
How old are you now, around 55 iirc? If you quit your job you can take distributions from your 401k penalty free at 55 1/2. That could bridge you over until you find new work.
COBRA is expensive, you’d be able to get a high deductible plan on the exchange to bridge you to your next job
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Nice bump. I've been thinking about Buzz and others due to some sad event in my community.
Riser, perhaps instead of thinking about it quit/no quit consider it a wake up call to make your primary focus your short and long term mental and physical well being. So while a shitty work scene is no doubt toxic and should be eliminated/managed a lack of income and benefit has its own set stressors.
Its not a one size fits all type deal but, for me at least, removing the dog shit job can give you the opportunity to make progress but it really isn't progress itself. Your health is on you.
Is time your constraint? How is your discipline? Do you do well with self imposed deadlines and routines? Can your family take a bit of your plate and allow you to invest in yourself?
Starting today can you commit to exercise, better diet, less vices, focus on sleep and so on?
Momentum is a very powerful force. We have to work hard to getting going in the right direction but once we do its much easier to feel empowered and on a go path.
OK, here goes.
I am 66.6 and just DGAF about skiing at my local resorts anymore. Yesterday brought a foot of new and reportedly excellent conditions.
OTOH, the entire vibe of such a day fills me with a loathing that I just cannot shake. Between the drive, the parking and then the rest of the bullshit that goes along with such days I don't think I can do it anymore. When I get to the ski area I wish I was just about anywhere else.
Other than "Hike up your skirt" etc, any advice?
A change of scenery? I very much don’t like the resort vibe. Love our local hill, feels like home.
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It was the worst season for me since 2001 and it’s hard for me to relate but if you hate the vibe on pow days at the local mega resort can you go to a more local hill? tour? try snowboarding or tele to take the rah rah bro brah pressure off intentionally? check the first world problems thread?
That’s all I got. And maybe the crowds should thin out at 2 and maybe you can sneak a spot up front for a couple of hours of leftovers.
Bunion, I had that phase. You've skied a lot in your life. I may feel strange to not love it anymore. Try and be a peace with that. It is a tough concept for many people to relate to but I can. Its "just another powder turn".
Things that helped me are to realize that in addition to a ski turn being just plain fucking awesome it was about hanging out with my friends, being outside and feeling the wind on my face. So thing about some options you may have to replace the things you used to love about skiing. For me snowmobiling, paragliding, XC, dog walking etc. have allowed me to not "need" skiing as much. Now, when I point my truck towards the ski area, I am able to have no expectation. I even tell myself that I can turn around and go home. But guess what, I probably end the season with something like 20 days on my pass and 15 in the BC but they've all been awesome and on my terms.
65 here and kind of the same only because my hill is 6 hours away :rolleyes2 This was the most lackluster season of my skiing career due to being old and out of shape. Told myself I will buy next seasons pass, but if I am not in great shape by then, well fuck it. I ski with a couple of ski clubs and really enjoy some of the people I ski with. Maybe you need to ski with others to have a good time?
I just ski a couple of hours here and there anymore, but I still get annoyed with driving and parking, even though my drive is only half an hour and the road is beautiful and easy. I also get bored sometimes, not all the time, on the chairlifts, all the good terrain is slow chairs. A new playlist every winter helps and I'm making more of an effort to ski with other people and chat on the chairs, but I find that pretty exhausting emotionally. I guess all the years as an instructor completely tapped out my social energy. It feels like WORK to be sociable and I feel tired. One of the reasons I came back on this forum was to make the effort to be socialble.
Wow, these last few posts really speak to/of me. raisingarizona’s been posting about losing the passion for skiing too. Things like fly fishing and my motorcycle interest me more.
Interesting, I’ll be following the thoughts along this line. I don’t have any advice for Bunion, just that I’m basically going through the same thing, coincidentally after ‘retiring’ from full time ‘trolling.
Humbly suggest finding a group activity — group bike ride? Volunteer trail building? Doesn’t matter what it is…just that it puts you in touch with people in a way that isn’t artificial or transitory/brief
As we get older, we get separated from the social circles that used to be in our lives whether we sought them out or not: school, university, work, kid’s school/clubs, etc
As much as any person may not necessarily be an out-going personality, these social interactions bring lots of good vibes (for lack of a better phrase)
Take up Pickle ball ?
I was done with skiing this season by last sunday and so the bike is exciting me but seriously if you don't feel it then you don't feel it so what else are you gona do ?
I was way more rabid/ ski crazy in the pre covid times and the pre ACL surgery, still I bought my early bird pass yesturday cuz they gave me a good discount for fishing snow boarders out of the slush pit and I am sure I will get it up for 24/25
I identifyed as a paddler but I couldn't sit in the boats any more so I gave up Kayaking which is probably the first sport i had to give up but honestly I didn't really want to sit in WW kayak anymore. So myself and ski/ paddle bro would talk about this we agree we have aged out
Thanks for this. I'm in a bit of a similar spot as riser right now in that I've come to the conclusion that I'm really unhappy with my job. Though there's some undeniable huge pluses (working remote), I've been underpaid and overworked for a long time, and lately they've been fucking up most of my benefits and I finally realized that I just really don't enjoy what I'm doing anymore as there's no longer any mental challenge to it. The work is still technically challenging, but the challenge is only fighting my design software. There's no more interesting challenge in the things I'm designing, which is the part of my job that was actually interesting at one time.
But also like riser, I'm in a place right now where financially I can't just up and quit, need that paycheck, don't have the reserves right now to cover it or take a big leap into the unknown.
So this is good advice. For now, focus on making every other part of my personal wellbeing as awesome as I can while working towards being more ready to walk away from the current gig.
I found that when your interest/physical abilities start to wane in your primary sport that you have excelled in for a long time (skiing), take up a new one that interests you where you suck and have to learn from zero (golf, ice hockey, MTB, pickleball) the longer the learning curve and more physical, the better.
I totally feel you on this. The whole reservation/parking & traffic cluster fuck around Alpine and that other name has made me salty and made me not really give a fuck about it the past year. Tearing my acl at the end of last season didn’t help, but the vibe is hindering my recovery motivation for sure
I'm 48 and feeling the same about skiing. I struggled to go at all this season. I think I got 8 or 9 days in. Two were doing small tours with my daughter. I really enjoyed watching her ski as she's progressed quite a bit but I felt nothing for myself while skiing. It was like I blacked out and my mind was somewhere else. The thrill is gone and basic powder skiing didn't do much for me. I spoiled myself I guess and now I want to do other things.
I've started to think to myself this is the same thing, over and over again. You go up then come down, right left right left yada yada. I'm too old for exciting progression and I've taken it as far as I likely ever will so what's the point?
Change is inevitable. I do know plenty of people that are super content doing the same things year after year day after day and I often envy them but that's not me. I crave new challenges and experiences.
I didn't feel too motivated to ski this season either. A big part of it was leftover burnout from the prior year and the insane amount of snow it brought - basically I was sick and tired of being cold and dealing with snow. The other part was it was just kind of an uneven storm season - low base in Tahoe for the first half of the season, then one gargantuan overhyped storm that made for terrible shitty skiing for a week. 8-10' of snow coupled with 100 mph wind doesn't make for good skiing.
I'm actually enjoying the conditions right now more than I did most of this whole season. Warm, soft corn, good coverage.
Skiing is different things to different people. I'm lucky that I live 15mins from WP, 30 from Berthoud so I don't need to invest much to make it happen.
10 gondi laps with good snow, sign me up. Mid winter weekends with, 17k people. No thanks.
I think about it, imagine a life where you could do everything? That would be stupid. I used to think I was betraying skiing by not going, but I'm over that.
As said above, I'm chasing the premium experiences, skiing or otherwise. That's said, if you aren't being productive and can't figure out what to do with your freetime, go skiing.
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I work at the bottom of a hill, makes it easy to get out for lunch laps, but yeah, if I had to make a parking reservation to ski, fuck that noise.
I’m always amazing how people keep motivated to ski day in and day out and get over 100 days skiing. But I guess many of those aren’t full days but a couple of runs before work?
I've had similar feelings about skiing locally lately, partly due to how fucking crazy skiing is around Seattle is now, how crowded and what incredibly intense anxiety I get over it. It used to be so fucking good for so long, best kept secret in skiing.
I own the anxiety, I just lose control over it in traffic jams, big liftlines and hoards of people in marginal control skiing down on me. So locally, I didn't get in a lot of days, maybe only about 25. With Alpental an hour away and Crustal 2 hours, the drive gets wearing. Spring at Alpental is a nice change, some friendly faces and lots of laps within a relatively short drive. Crustal used to be a home, a place with a good posse and reasonable crowds, but all that's gone there. A bunch of good buddies is priceless.
Silverton is still a great spot for a variety of reasons: easy access from town and a community of k00ks who exude love and respect for each other and the environs. I'm super lucky to be able to feel close to the deal there, help out when and where I can. The sparseness of people and lack of competition for resources is a huDge factor, but I can feel the change happening there and I wonder how until long the entitled groovy masses will ruin it.
Honestly though, the biggest recharge is finding new places, new people and skiing where I haven't much. I recognize how I kind of need to challenge myself to do this. Part of that effort is the rage through the Alps where I get ramped up on skiing, the culture, the little old villages and small businesses, the dinky churches and incredible vistas. Having a great clot of k00ks really fills it out, you know who you are and I thank you.
I also make note of the fact that I'm old and I won't be able to do this shit in 20 years. That puts some gas in the tank. Carpe skium.
Toxic work doldrums blow bigtime, I get it, I was in a really shitty situation for a while. When splitting isn't an option or a wise move, I just tried to slice the shit a new way. There's huDge challenge in that, no joke.
So refresh when possible, take care of yourself, count the good things and when down in the shit, do your best to refresh an angle on things.
I've gone through fits and starts of the crowd hating over the last 10yrs, and through times of shunning the resort in favor of more bc solitude.
I've been trying to shift that attitude for a grateful take on it, with a little self reflection on how fortunate I have been to get to ski for so long and with so many good to great days of pow skiing with good people over that lifetime. That and the last 2 yrs I've been able to ski with my adult 20 something children a ton too which has been off the charts fun.
54 and closing in on 5,000 days of skiing yet still looking forward to the next one and the next one.
When would you guys say you noticed the biggest shift in the skiing experience other than COVID? I didn’t really start paying attention until about 2012, but it still seemed pretty good then.
Love resort skiing - there’s something about hammering vert, getting strong, and seeing progression that I can get behind. Although can’t help but acknowledge the fact that it is a bit of a ridiculous pursuit when really reflecting on it. Maybe a lot of that has to do with how the clientele has evolved over time. Growing up, when my family took ski trips it was about skiing. No one expected the Disneyworld experience that is assumed to come with it now. Maybe that’s why resorts are charging $20+ to park for a day, or not including tram access with a regular day ticket.. the list goes on.
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