Good for you Bro. Let us know when you publish, Bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
Good for you Bro. Let us know when you publish, Bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
No no no.....Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
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Consult the Book of Armaments! BROTHER MAYNARD: Armaments, chapter two, verses nine to twenty-one. SECOND BROTHER: And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that, with it, Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy."
needs more edits, buddyQuote:
Originally Posted by highangle
I'm working on a very similar argument for getting my wife to see Phish.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
....wrong thread?
Wrong band.Quote:
Originally Posted by idahospud
https://youtu.be/k_3Q9X03Yeg
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Brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by AK47bp
Funny. Without being naughty.
The craziest thing I see from most Christians is this. The goal is to get to heaven and yet they always seem to to be sad or angry with the idea of anyone getting there. I mean, fetuses get instant access as do all still borns.
Good point! All good sperm go to heaven!!
no--in order for a fetus or newborn or anyone else to go to heaven they have to be baptized, even posthumously. So if you live a life of sin and non-belief and find yourself in heaven, you have the Mormons to thank. And to think you slammed the door in their faces.Quote:
Originally Posted by wooley12
Not according to my flavor/ denomination as I last heard. But the rules change. They changed on me once before Had an aunt who secretly baptize every newborn she could "Just in case."
Sperm aren't people. But you WILL go to hell if you spill even one drop unless it's a nocturnal emission. So I was told. I bit a host and it didn't bleed so I was skeptical.Quote:
Originally Posted by PB
If you go to heaven and they change the rules do you have to transfer to hell, and visa versa?Quote:
Originally Posted by wooley12
If the Supreme Court can say that corporations are people I don't see why the Pope can't call sperm people. Half people anyway. Like Mexicans.Quote:
Originally Posted by wooley12
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I think the rules that you know are the ones that are enforced. Like in golf.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
See above. FWIW 1/2 of the RC's don't like the pope all of the time. The sides change when the pope changes.
Actually, he said that Christianity was correlated with stupidity, not that an entire group of people was stupid. Do you understand the difference between those two statements?Quote:
Originally Posted by Timberridge
How much statistics did you take? I have an M.S. myself, and it was also my undergrad major, but that should not be necessary to understand that the title of his post does not imply what you are saying.
That being said, I would also say that just because the people in question are idiots does NOT necessarily establish a correlation. One would have to do something like establish that high levels of religious belief is inversely correlated with IQ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8uk...&frags=pl%2CwnQuote:
Originally Posted by Bromontane
Holeee crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Long duc dong
Forest, meet trees.
hate this thread and dont want to let Kanye West into my head.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-...cid=spartandhp
Woman rejects interracial marriage due to christian beliefs until she actually reads her 2000 year old book and realizes it doesn't mention interracial marriage - so now she's ok with it. Right.....
Ohio coming in hot this week
Ohio GOP lawmakers want to ban all abortions, charging doctors with murder
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...er/4200463002/
New Ohio Law Lets Students Give Wrong Answers on Tests for Religious Reasons
https://www.newsweek.com/ohio-studen...es-act-1472008
As a minister in the Universal Life Church, I will now baptize everyone in the world and everyone who has died. So, if I missed you, fukkin Heaven will be full. Sorry about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
Idiots. Kent State. Coincidence?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Oh snap, a whistleblower is alleging that the Mormon church has mismanaged more than $100 billion of charitable donations by channeling them into for-profit investments on which it has failed to pay taxes.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2019...whistleblower/
Unsurprising. All large organized religions are suspect, but none moreso than the mos's. They're all about the $$$Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
The sad thing is in my 2 decades in Utah I saw so much poverty and impoverishment, expecially down south. Seeing houses with delapitated roofs and siding in need of repairs and all I can think is: "imagine what these people could fix if they weren't obligated to tithe 10% of their income.
To hear that the church is hiding, hoarding, hundreds of billion of dollars, or putting it into vanity projects like city creek, to further line their pockets boils my blood.
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Pretty evenhanded article from a member of the church. has the church issued a statement in response? "Grossly exaggerated", maybe?
Disclaimer - I'm active LDS, so I assume my comments will be dismissed. [emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
I'm not a huge fan of Jana Reiss, but agree with Iceman that the Trib article is fairly even-handed. The whistle-blower will need to come with a lot more if they want to prove the accusations.
Article with Church statement found here: https://www.heraldextra.com/news/loc...d4b77f7dc.html
From what I see, nobody's pockets are getting lined. Only the highest levels of the church get even a living stipend and only if they are required quit/retire for the church position due to time requirements. Many that have their own means donate the stipend back. Church employees are paid similar to government wages. I don't see anyone living lavish or flying private jets.
I didn't love City Creek, but it created a lot of jobs and has enhanced downtown SLC (spoken as an outsider who visits a few times a year). I would think most visitors have no idea it was built by the church. I also wish we did a little more humanitarian aid, but they are doing close to $1B a year, which is not nothing. I've seen local ward units do a pretty good job of looking out for their own.
Unless they try to visit on a Sunday, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by phatty
That being said, I lived in between Temple Square and the Capitol for about a year, and thoroughly enjoyed it. I had a great view of the rotunda at the capitol building and of that golden statue of Miles Davis wailing on the trumpet on top of the Temple from my kitchen.
I'm not a city person, but if you held a gun to my head and made me pick, SLC would certainly make the short list.
Most religions are just as greedy and money-grubbing as the LDS Church, but they're(the Mormons) at least a little more intellectually honest about it than others.
When sitting on over $100B of tax-exempt assets the proper fucking thing to do would be to spend a bit more than 1% on humanitarian aid to at least pretend to adhere to those christian principles the church so deeply cherishes. And maybe refrain from using some of those $$ to support any number of abhorrent policies at the state and national level.Quote:
Originally Posted by phatty
As far as looking out for their own, how about not charging the families of those young ones they send out to proselytize? Double dipping at its fucking best. Strip the church of its tax exempt status, it's nothing but a racketeering enterprise (along with every other organized religion, wouldn't want to single out anyone here).
How rich is it to claim that the $$ is getting stockpiled because it will be needed at the time of the 2nd coming of Jeebus? Will the stock market be getting a bump when that happens?
This stuff is becoming too common. The louder they say it, the more I question.
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/...hrough-grindr/
Church Leader Who Condemns Homosexuality Caught Trolling for Sex Through Grindr
The Kirksville Church of Christ in Missouri has a few “facts” that they would like you to know. The “Bible is the only creed,” for example. No surprise there.
If you visit their Facebook page, they get even more specific. Like this message saying you must not have sex outside of marriage, especially none of that gay stuff.
You would think Barry Poyner would know all this since he’s one of the church’s three elders in addition to being a professor at nearby Truman State University.
Barry Cole Poyner, 57, of Kirksville, has been charged with a class B misdemeanor count of patronizing prostitution.
According to court documents, Poyner faces up to six months in prison and/or a fine up to $1,000 if convicted.
Documents state the Truman State University Police Department received a tip that Poyner has been “harassing male Truman students for sexual contact as well as offering to pay for items for sexual favors by using the app Grindr.”
That article says the church claims to have spent $2.2 billion on humanitarian aid since the late '80s, so I don't know how you're getting a billion per year.Quote:
Originally Posted by phatty
Considering the political bent of the average Mormon, especially in Utah, it's absolutely incredible that members are willing to accept the church having virtually no financial accountability. When billions of dollars are being handled annually without any transparency corruption is inevitable.
That article also says he's asking for the reward financial whistleblowers can claim under the law, and he's recently left the church and has an axe to grind, so he definitely has an agenda. If he's full of shit he's also guilty of perjury and could go to prison. He's either right or really stupid. Going to be very interesting to see how this plays out.
Aren't they trying to ensure their way into the everafter with faith and ducats? I thought that was how it works. Short term sacrifices in this lifetime for eternal happiness after?
Disappointing.Quote:
Originally Posted by glademaster
Disappointing that so many people in this world believe in fairytales and give their money away to greedy manipulative fucks?Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
taxes > philanthropy
Just, for the record, by most standards I'm fairly religious / protestant denomination. I don't read this thread because you all are railing on society, even if you think you are railing on religion. The church, temple, mosque, etc. they all have good and bad people. just as there are good and bad people in the starbucks you stopped at today.
I beleive in this. Not sorry if it offends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_dcT08lQW8
/ carry on.