^ Awesome, thanks. Might have to try that tonight.
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^ Awesome, thanks. Might have to try that tonight.
Ugh, I’ll try that drink, but seems like a great way to ruin good whiskey.
How about just mixing with olive oil and making a salad? Might help me make salads more often, usually only eat when the wife makes one.
Whatever works, but with your first meal of the day is probably best. What those charts don't show is that the effect persists for 8-12 hours after consumption. So, the vinegar you consumed in the morning with breakfast improves your glucose control at lunch and dinner, too. Same thing happens with resistant starch.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiBall
Cornell nutrition scientist resigns after retractions and research misconduct finding
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2018...onduct-finding
And herein lies the crux. But a salad in the morning beats whiskey in the morning...for me at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...stract/2694709
"Elevated glycemia was the only cardiometabolic risk factor with constantly higher values among dementia cases up to 14 years before diagnosis."
Wow, another reason to not eat sugar.
Hey now, dementia's not so bad ...... for the demented.
If the new IPCC report is right the dead and demented will be the lucky ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by PB
Does it matter if you're intermittent fasting? Would you wait till your first meal of the day?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Might want to start experimenting with it.
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Yeah, first meal, whatever time of day that happens to be.
I like a vinegar based chili sauce on my bacon and eggs.
Anyone have recommendations for apps to track food consumption/nutrition? Have lost 6-7 lbs the last couple months just trying to control portion sizes but would like something that tracks calories and fat/carbs/protein and anything else that would be useful to track. Seeing numbers will help me set goals otherwise I tend to eat whatever is in front of me. Thx
I used Carb Manager App for a while and it was pretty good. Now I use Fitbit since I got a Fitbit Charge 3. Seems to work pretty well and you can use it without a Fitbit.Quote:
Originally Posted by evdog
I used Carb Manager (now I am just lazily tracking). Myfitnesspal is another app I know people use.
I just bought a smart scale yesterday and its pretty sweet. 27 bucks on Amazon and it syncs with my fitbit.
Fitbit also has a scanner built in and most foods are logged in there.
Dan, back to the acetic acid, what amounts of ACV are we talking about, a tablespoon or two? Or more? Just got some bloodwork back with somewhat elevated glucose. I used to drink about a quarter cup diluted ¾ cup water sweetened with honey and I liked the taste I just wasn't noticing any results
1-2 Tbs is the typical dose I've seen in studies.
Recommend you don't use it to wash down a plateful of squirrel brains: https://www.sciencealert.com/rare-de...cephalopathies
Shit. I'm out then.
Dantheman, Danno, and all others: thoughts/insight on probiotics? Can't remember if it's been covered, but looking to maybe improve my gut health a little bit. I've been trying to eat more sauerkraut, yogurt, etc., but still curious on pills, etc.
You may be a candidate for Fecal Transplantation.
Hey! Eat shit, man.
I take a probiotic but it's one of those things where it feels like I'm taking it on faith, because I really have no idea if it works. I take this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01A98VLAU?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
Missed this. The evidence is pretty weak that they do anything for anyone who isn't actively taking a course of antibiotics (which you should try to avoid doing outside of life-or-death situations): https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/probiotics/Quote:
Originally Posted by fool
You're much better off eating a diet rich in veggies, fruit and other foods rich in prebiotics: fiber, resistant starch, and sulfoquinovose (https://phys.org/news/2016-02-sweet-...reens-key.html)
I haven't tried many probiotics, but my PA recommended some that have to be refrigerated (which seems to be a common theme: expect nothing from the ones that don't require refrigeration) and they have had a noticeable effect on my system. Missing a week and re-starting a couple times seems to confirm this. That said, my gut is (probably) not like yours, and might still (but probably mostly shouldn't) resemble the 'course of antibiotics' guy. And I notice the effects of DTM's other recs, too.
these seem to help me and seem like a good product, check them out: https://www.hyperbiotics.com
Thanks, Dan!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
FWIW, a friend recommended these (http://a.co/d/j7Y3q9i) though I've heard VSL#3 is better if you are having bigger stomach issues. (To jono's point VSL requires refrigeration). I'll check those out as well, ice: thanks!
This is pretty interesting: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/14/w...hy-weight.html
I'm still generally of the opinion that eating whole foods is more important than macro ratios, but it sounds like this was a very rigorous study. The full text is not paywalled: https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/363/bmj.k4583.full.pdf
That’s the study my ex-gfs mom was involved in as a nutritionist. Wild, I was wondering when that was going to be published.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I'd really love to see a replication study. It's hard to overstate how massive an extra 250 cals/day is, so this really needs independent confirmation. Gonna be interesting to see what Michael Greger has to say about it--I predict hefty doses of ad hominem attacks on NuSI and straw men.
"Current evidence indicates that no specific carbohydrate-to-fat ratio in the diet is best for the general population. Nor do all diets, and calorie sources, have similar metabolic effects in everyone. With attention to diet quality—and specifically a focus on reducing processed foods, including sugar and refined grains—many people do relatively well with substantial variation in macronutrient composition"
Boom. High/low-fat/carb misses the forest for the trees. You can eat horribly unhealthy diets of any arbitrary macronutrient makeup. First and foremost, eat real food.
And eat real food in moderation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I just get the feeling that a large portion of the U.S. population honestly has no idea what eating real food means.
My wife does in-home healthcare; when she says “real food”; her patients have no clue what she means. She has to explain it to almost all of them.
She also has a policy of “no orange food” in the house: Doritos, Cheetos, etc. are verboten. She gave up trying to explain that one to her patients.
Baked Crunchy Cheetos are a munchie-inspired guilty pleasure of mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyoverland Captive
But yeah, eating real food with an emphasis on minimally processed goods regardless of protein/fat/carb ratios will likely be a more sustainable long term diet than having a conniption over macronutrient ratios and ketosis.
That shit is allowed on road trips, along with Pringles and Ranch Corn Nuts. Road Trip Shit Food is exempt from normal rules. But at home? Nonono.Quote:
Originally Posted by glademaster
Yup. I can't really trust myself with shit-food in the house. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Flyoverland Captive
Road trips are a complete free-for-all, though.
this is how I operate too. if it’s in the house it will get eaten.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
it’s not a road trip without doritos or the fancy cheetos “barbara’s” are like crack and you feel a little better about the enormous orange intake.
the orange stuff stuck to your fingers is called “cheet” [emoji23]
I need to check these out.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman