They are good fitting boots. But they definitely need more forward lean. I have added a footbed to help with the measly 13 degree forward lean. That helped, but if someone has a way via the walk mode. Walk me thru how to do that.
thanks,
Alex
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They are good fitting boots. But they definitely need more forward lean. I have added a footbed to help with the measly 13 degree forward lean. That helped, but if someone has a way via the walk mode. Walk me thru how to do that.
thanks,
Alex
Give 'em a couple of days before doing anything. You might be surprised. I was on boots that would feel like stiletto heels if I wore them now. It took me a couple of runs to get used to my XT 130 Freetours (14 degrees with the added spoiler). I could never go back.Quote:
Originally Posted by aslogar
Your quads will burn less when you get used to standing on and driving your skis from this position. Totally counter-intuitive, but give it a shot.
https://blisterreview.com/ski-boot-r...xt-free-130-lv
... Thom
So right.Quote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
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Just ordered a pair - landed in Australia for $USD550. Jumped on them before stock totally disappears.
Will report in a few months when we have snow; my northern winter is over for the year, but it was a good one.
Ordered the same size as my Mach1 LV 130 alpine boots, which are a bit of a sideways squeeze for me (98mm last). The ZGTP is 99mm, and I'm gonna need every part of that extra mm. Sounds like you can blow them another 5 or so if needed.
How exactly does a footbed help with forward lean?Quote:
Originally Posted by aslogar
By changing your ramp angle.Quote:
Originally Posted by smooth operator
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You may be pleasantly surprised. I expected a very narrow fit and think they’re roomier than advertised. Ymmv.Quote:
Originally Posted by kanangra
When I tried them on they felt good despite my 115mm forefoot. They’re definitely roomier than 99. Not quite as roomy as Vulcans though. I’ll know more when mine show up this afternoon.
Have you tried on the hawx or MTN Lab? If so did they feel roomier?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chugachjed
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It doesn’t.Quote:
Originally Posted by smooth operator
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I haven’t. But my ZGTPs arrived today and I stuck an old power wrap in and I think I can ski them with no mods. The stock liner does what every tongue liner I’ve ever tried does and pinched the fuck out of the top of my foot. I was thinking I’d have to go to a bootfitter and get the boot board ground but after sticking the powerwrap in I think they’ll work well as is despite my fat feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by ffmedic84
Yeah I wish tour wraps were available. Sticking some race fx in to try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chugachjed
I’ve been touring in powerwraps since forever. I’ve never felt like they hindered me in any way.
Touring in powerwraps is definitely not why I'm slow ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chugachjed
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Give me blisters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chugachjed
I’ve got scars on my heels from first gen factors and various scarpas. The boot not the liner is what fucks me up.
Me too! Was gonna try for a fitting and baking, but if a wrap solves this issue, I’ll just try that first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chugachjed
If you're willing to give it some time, that pressure in the instep with the stock liner will subside. I thought the same thing when I first got them, and even put my powerwraps in there for a while too, but I gave it some time and it pressed out. The intuitions are much higher volume, and even though I would prefer to use them, the lower volume of the stock liner has been a better overall fit.
I just pulled my intuitions out of my Vulcans and stuck them in. I’ve always had bad luck with tongue liners, and I’m not willing to suffer. Granted I didn’t mold the stock liners but why bother when the intuitions I’ve got fit much better. Even makes the forefoot feel roomier, in the stock liner I thought I’d need a punch but in the intuitions I think they’ll be alright.
Are you intuitions sized up or down?
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Same size. They’re 11 in a 28.5 shell. They’re the same length as the stock liner.
The 26 race fx I just got is a nice low volume like the stock liner and I’d say if anything the tiniest little bit longer that the stock (26) liner. I’d go with matching liner to boot size.
Anyone ski ZTGP and cochise? How does the length internally compare for the same mondo? More toe room in the ztgp?
In my cochise, my big toes hit the front when levered forward in walk mode. Wondering if the same shell size would be ok in the ztgp or need to size up
Haha just found that my Vancouver dealer has shipped surface, so I'll know in "2-3 months". Will be here before winter kicks in so all good I guess....Quote:
Originally Posted by hafjell
Oh fuck. That’s the worst. They sending someone swimming with them?Quote:
Originally Posted by kanangra
Same here, I think the talus and tarsal bones stick way up so I got pwr wraps in everything with sole foot beds
curious if you got flat feet or collapsed arches ?
you don't know how happy hearing this ^^ makes meQuote:
Originally Posted by Chugachjed
If I need a new touring boot the big question would be Atomic or the Technica and they both go small enough ?
Well after wearing them around the house I’m headed to the bootfitter. I think I need some more width behind the big toe. Not much but some.
Oh definitely do check the screws attaching your walk mechanism. I was skiing inbounds on saturday and at lunch noticed that my walk bar was at a 90º to the cuff due to one of the screws disappearing into my ski bag and the other coming loose. Now that I think about it...I was skiing the whole morning on one screw on the cuff. :eek:
I have both in the same size. ZG is slightly shorter, and a bit narrower in the toe box. I punched the ZG in a couple spots (in front of the big toe, and on the side of my pinky toe), but didn't punch the Cochise. Like you, my toes hit the front of the Cochise while walking, but it wasn't so bad that I needed a punch. The Cochise was much tighter over my instep than the ZG.Quote:
Originally Posted by P.T.
A properly crafted footbed shouldn't change your interior ramp angle - just distribute pressure more evenly over the plantar surface of the foot. Even if heavily posted, the heel should be ground until the base of the footbed is showing (depth is usually only 2.5 to 3mm thick at this point).Quote:
Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un
I wish Greg was here to work on my boots! Powderhound has been good in the past though. Just worried that they’ll be cranky I didn’t buy from them for $400 more.
Keep an eye on your toe inserts as well??? https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...w-F**cked-am-I
SIAP - Can anybody compare the new Tour Scout to the old ZeroG Guide Pro in terms of flex (stiffness)? I've skied the old Guide Pro for 3 seasons, and have never needed any added stiffness outside of the resort. Saving the $100 is probably worth it to me if the Tour Scout flexes similarly to my old Guide Pro.
Point taken. I was too brief (thinking I was clear enough) and implied that a bit of intended heel lift would change the ramp angle, assuming of course that there's room in the boot and your ankle is still positioned correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregL
A few assumptions ;-)
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Anyone tried cooking/molding Zero G shells in a Salomon custom shell type oven? I've had luck getting some extra room with similar thin grilamid boots. Any legit reason not to do this?
Mine seem to have taken the punches really well. They ski way better than Vulcans.
Since I had to get the ZeroG Scouts and there are times I wish I had just a touch more stiffness I decided to try out the Pulse Labs Proflex ($75USD shipped since the CAD is poop right now). Now I just need to track down some t-nut hardware for the instep ladder. Anyone have a good source?
Have no experience with t-nuts from McMaster but can vouch for their stuff generally.Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCalNomad
https://www.mcmaster.com/tee-nuts
Yeah that was a backup, but I'd like not to have to buy a box of nuts from MMC
I do wonder what grade of SS "regular" ie manufactured supplied t-nuts are. I'm use to hardware store "SS" to be shit and only passable as SS inside a house. And I know first hand 18-8 (304) does not to stand up to marine use.
As mentioned before, be sure to loctite the walk mode hardware screws. I almost lost the whole lever assembly the other day after a screw backed out.