Switched over to Univision... at least in Spanish I can't understand how badly we're being outplayed.
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Switched over to Univision... at least in Spanish I can't understand how badly we're being outplayed.
Oh
My
God.
Unbelievable.
Literally perfect free kick
Wondolowski should never play for the US again. Between that crappy foul on Messi to give him the free kick for the goal after he lost the ball AND the sitter he missed in the World Cup I can't see what he brings to the table.
http://twitpic.com/show/thumb/e7cdbv.gif
Of course I'm rooting for team USA, but goddamn i love to watch Messi practice his art.
That one goes in all time great goals real.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
Holy fuck.
Calmly re-tying his shoes beforehand is akin to Babe Ruth calling his home run. Even the announcers were saying "when the best player in the world ties his shoes before a free kick that's never a good sign."Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
They don't get any better than that. That was pretty much perfect.
Fuck... Seriously messi almost never makes his free kicks and he picks tonight to pull out a text book perfect one
My money is on me having watched football for longer than anyone here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
He probably is the greatest ever... just incredible.
Messi has mad skills. It's great to see him play, but I hope our thugs don't behead him.
Looks so bad, I'm willing to bet $50 Ronaldo scores in this game.
Um....what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Phill
Pretty incredible that Guzan is still on the pitch after that clothes line on Lavezzi, even if he was offsides (which I'm not convinced he was...)
Could say the same about Bradley.... He's turned the ball over at least four fucking times...... And there you go, Wondolowski is out for the second....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick
For the national team at least. It was a whole thing during the last World Cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayItLeo
Anyway I think this game was over before it started. I'm guessing it'll end 4-0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phill
Seriously. Messi is arguably the best ever at direct free kicks. Here are the EIGHT he made THIS YEAR. (Nine now!)Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayItLeo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJjdfOCPcbY
And Woefulowski out at half time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick
What was Guzan's deal cheapshoting Levezzi - dumbass
Yup. The last two years he's really upped that part of his game. He scored a similar free kick to the one he hit tonight, but from an even tougher angle, against Sevilla this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
Penalty kicks, however, are the only area where he appears to be human
And the tide rolls on...
Fuck this, I'm going for a run....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tippster
US has a long way to go to get to the level Argentina plays at but so does most of the rest of the world.
Columbia v Chile should be a great match tomorrow but I don't see anyone competing with the white and blue.
That free kick was perfectly placed. For almost any other player I would say it was luck but not with Messi, just a freak of nature!
Argentina: great at soccer, bad at $$$$
Lavezzi has been taking a beating
Ouch!!! But pretty funny...
Landycakes is horrendous in his analysis. Estoy viendo Univision porque no puedo escuchar ademas
Argentina v Chile (I've already penciled them in) will be a hell of a match.
FUck might be 5 now. At least we'll do better than Mexico
Good game. US played well by their own standard. Argentina as well, by far their best game so far.
But the two teams are clearly on different levels.
Zero shots...? That's low for any bar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phill
It looked like it but then again I know nothing at all about soccer and am about 6 beers deep so grain of salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDaddy
The bitter pill is not that US loses to Argentina, there's no shame there, but that we played so crappy. I just think we don't have any players that have been in top notch high pressure games and therefore they fold and can't even make simple passes or clean 1st touches when it counts. ARG have numerous players who have played in Champions League, World Cup Finals, Champions League Finals, Cup Titles, etc, etc. Whats the best we can claim? MLS Final?
I'd like to see some stats about how many unforced giveaways the us had. Its one thing to have to deal with Messi and Arg but its another to be your own worst enemy.
I think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by flowing alpy
The level he plays and reads today's game and can still scare the talent out of really good players.. gets defenders to watch him rather than the ball or cover the space he creates.. and that touch.. even the simplest pass is just such perfect spin or slice.
Or you know - crosses to nobody, missed (easy) stops/traps of the ball, horrendous first and second touches the whole match...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick
Argentina's passing in the D was impressive. They ran our boys ragged - no way could they keep that up the whole game.
Yeah, the game's so different now. Hard to compare Pele or Maradona.
That goal was so beautiful.
US should've played better. Shouldn't have won. But should've played better.
On a brighter note, my grandfather's homeland, a tiny non-independent nation of 3 million people, kicked the shit out of Russia yesterday in the UEFA. So there's that.
Great game USA....
What were you watching?Quote:
Originally Posted by ~mikey b
They got schooled.
Probably flows from American youth soccer. "You lost every aspect of the game but great job everyone, you're all winners, sports drink and orange slices for everyone."
I was being sarcastic.
Agree with this, but imo he is one of the very few worthy of being mentioned in that conversation, and I'm old enough to have seen Pele play in person, albeit at the end of his playing career.Quote:
Originally Posted by LightRanger
You need to expand on this to some extent but in general, I can't say I disagree. "True" youth soccer more or less needs to be this way to encourage young players to get out and just enjoy the game while hopefully, learning some basic philosophy and proper skills needed to prepare them for play at a later age if they continue in to HS. The grey area is at what age this should/needs to happen and become more competitive, not just a recreational game played on Sunday morning with one so called "practice" a week. Too soon and too much, they often burn out, too late and not enough they don't have the core skills and correct techniques to compete at higher levels. Along with a lot of encouragement there needs to be some element of teaching that soccer is not all kick and chase, run Suzy, run, run! Winning has to be introduced as important but too early and parents become your biggest enemy telling their kids "it isn't whether you win or lose that is important." This is a real balancing act and difficult to achieve unless you have the benefit of being able to coach the same group of players for several years consecutively starting at an early age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stikki
I have coached youth (in my book 5-10yrs old) boys and mainly girls, all the way through HS and have my C license (prior to the new DCC platform) but starting at middle school age, I would say I have spent more time trying to unteach rec soccer instruction than anything else. Boys are more receptive to learning advanced structure and technique at an earlier age, but in my experience girls are much easier to coach once they reach that middle school age. They are generally more open to instruction and retain it much better. Some kids just don't ever respond positively to the necessary constructive criticism and discipline needed to develop a solid player and at some point, they either grow in to accepting it or they don't and move on. I think this loosely defines the bridge from youth to competitive soccer.
US had not one single shot on goal tonight.
Was that at Schaefer or Nickerson Field?:Quote:
Originally Posted by FussyDutchman
I saw him at Schaefer, May, 1976 and he was still a stud at 35.
I could not agree more. One of the most amazing displays of pure, unadulterated sarcasm, unparalleled by even the Spanish or German teams of late. Truly awe inspiring and brought tears to my eyes...Quote:
Originally Posted by ~mikey b
A lot of early learning of bad habits and not 'getting the game' stems from well intending, ignorant non-soccer dads and moms as coaches. The basic ball skills of touch, trapping control, passing and moving to open areas get missed. This should be ingrained and natural from the outset (I could not believe how badly Bradley and the rest f'd up the midfield with poor trapping and basic passing.)Quote:
Originally Posted by FussyDutchman
Another is the youth soccer system designed to extract money from parents believing that Johnny or Suzy will get to be the best if they drive all over the place to weekend tournaments vs simply getting a ball on their foot in the back yard or pick up games with other kids. It seems that gone are the 'sandlot' days where US kids would grab whoever is around and play whatever sport on their own. Soccer is only played if there is an organized practice or game by parents, club or other entity vs broad passion and desire to get on any surface with a ball. Many of the best players in the world did not start out on grass and buffed soccer fields.
A pet peeve is when a player blows a trap, pass' kicks the ball out of bounds instead of trying to make a play and 'unlucky' is yelled vs 'next time try this.....' and work on the basic skills.
The answer to why we suck is simple and has nothing to do with dads coaching soccer (dads coach youth baseball, football and basketball): our best athletes don't play soccer. In Europe and other places, their best athletes play soccer.
"Giants wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. thinks he could have made it as a professional football player. Real football, that is.
Beckham spent some time in the United Kingdom last week, and went on the talk show "Soccer AM" to talk about his rookie season and putting his soccer dream aside as a teenager to focus on his many other athletic exploits.
"I started when I was three years old and played until I was about 14," Beckham said. "My coach was pushing to try and get me on the national team and tryout. At that age, you're 13, 14 years old you know that to make it big in soccer you are probably going to have to go overseas. Obviously that would be a goal and that would be the dream. At that age it would have been hard for me to leave my family and just go.
"I played every other sport, soccer, basketball, baseball, football. And I just said, 'I don't think I can leave my family.' So that's when I kind of put the soccer dreams aside and stuck close to home with the other sports." "