where do these sexual assault people come from?

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

A. Proving consent is near impossible. If the poster says consent was established but the reader says consent looks suspect what should be done?

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I disagree. It’s harder than just posting up a photo, but nowhere near impossible. If a reader has a question about it, the poster should be able to prove it. If not, then ban hammer.

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Originally Posted by flowing alpy

...I post on this site, you may be familiar with it, TAY. Heavy moderation, barely any pics and NO nude womens, yet the place is a giant cauldron or entitled white male skiers and a boarder.
very very few female posters %wise compared to this joint imo.
maybe it is not a tgr thing a majority of outdoor sport enthusiasts of the female variety don’t post on these types of boards.

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TAY's porn policy isn't it's big issue Bob don't be silly.

"Because there aren't many of them (still) here to upset"... is a lame argument.

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today is the first time i heard someone compare having basic respect for women to fighting isis!

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

Then you get the same question as mtngirl. Who makes the determination on whether consent was established?

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Really it seems the disagreement is over who gets the benefit of the doubt....the poster or the subject of the photo.

That's going to be a hard one to sort out....pretty fair case to be made for either really.

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Originally Posted by wyeaster

why do you keep talking about slut shaming?

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I'm sorry, I was just trying to understand the reason why one person feels they have a right to object to someone else's choice to engage in an exhibitionist type act. We don't have to name it that if you find those words offensive. But it doesn't change the question.

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Originally Posted by wyeaster

why do you keep talking about slut shaming?

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Yeah! Fuck that. I love sluts!

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

A. Proving consent is near impossible.

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Wow, really? I would never have guessed they stopped making magic markers.

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Originally Posted by wyeaster

today is the first time i heard someone compare having basic respect for women to fighting isis!

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And those of us who know how to read have yet to read that.

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Originally Posted by wyeaster

today is the first time i heard someone compare having basic respect for women to fighting isis!

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come on man, that's not the comparison.

You're not actively fighting _________ so you're OK with ________. Insert whatever bad thing you want.

It's not a comparison of moral equivalencies between bad things, it's a means of demonstrating that "not fighting it" isn't the same as "wanting it"....which isn't a half-bad double entendre for this thread.

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Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy

come on man, that's not the comparison.

You're not actively fighting _________ so you're OK with ________. Insert whatever bad thing you want.

It's not a comparison of moral equivalencies between bad things, it's a means of demonstrating that "not fighting it" isn't the same as "wanting it"....which isn't a half-bad double entendre for this thread.

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If you put it that way how is he supposed to assert his moral superiority?

It's like Portlandia in real life.

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Originally Posted by jono

I'm sorry, I was just trying to understand the reason why one person feels they have a right to object to someone else's choice to engage in an exhibitionist type act. We don't have to name it that if you find those words offensive. But it doesn't change the question.

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i'm not talking about what the person in the picture wants to do while the picture is being taken. your argument is getting sillier.

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Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy

come on man, that's not the comparison.

You're not actively fighting _________ so you're OK with ________. Insert whatever bad thing you want.

It's not a comparison of moral equivalencies between bad things, it's a means of demonstrating that "not fighting it" isn't the same as "wanting it"....which isn't a half-bad double entendre for this thread.

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so we're good germans?

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

I thought we agreed determination of consent is difficult in the other thread. The question I asked was who determines if consent was provided? To that you seemed to suggest pornography should not be allowed on TGR.

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It's the responsibility of those who want to post and view the pictures to solve that problem.

It's fucked up to post nude pics without permission and can have irreversible negative consequences for the subject of the photos.

I think we all agree on that.

Figure out away to make sure that won't happen and I will shut up.

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Originally Posted by flowing alpy

I was saying there are not many women on
these sites whether nudes are allowed or not.

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Even more reason to create a somewhat less intimidating atmosphere..

Good point Bob. Nice to have some leadership around the place at last.



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Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki

If you put it that way how is he supposed to assert his moral superiority?

It's like Portlandia in real life.

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don't you have some hairs to split?

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Originally Posted by wyeaster

don't you have some hairs to split?

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4/10. Relatively low level of usual condescension.

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Originally Posted by wyeaster

i'm not talking about what the person in the picture wants to do while the picture is being taken. your argument is getting sillier.

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Make sense please.

Great, we figured it out...

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Originally Posted by wyeaster

i can see how a bunch of dudes defending their right to share e-boners would see it that way.

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You would have been better off with a mea culpa if your stance is anti-porn.

hilarious. mea culpa for posting dick pics if my stance is anti-porn. this place is so rich.

but my stance wasn't and isn't anti-porn, per se.

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Originally Posted by LegoSkier

"sex positive" community

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All that's old is new again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT8imYMud-8

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Originally Posted by wyeaster

hilarious. mea culpa for posting dick pics if my stance is anti-porn. this place is so rich.

but my stance wasn't and isn't anti-porn, per se.

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It's not a gotcha. Are you not calling porn hostile? If any of it is hostile, all of it is hostile.

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Originally Posted by jono

Make sense please.

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you keep talking about slut shaming as it pertains to the person in the picture. i'm saying, even if the person in the picture wants her picture taken and disseminated on tgr, that has nothing to do with how the women in the illustrious "community" here feel about seeing a bunch of guys posting porn and then basically drooling over it in commentary. it has absolutely nothing to do with slut shaming the person in the picture and it's odd that you are taking this line.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

It's not a gotcha. If any of porn is hostile all of it's hostile.

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if you're still on about the dick pics you obviously missed the point of the dick pics.

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

If any of it is hostile, all of it is hostile.

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That's complete nonsense. Surely you can appreciate the difference between, say, a woman who enjoys producing and sharing explicit selfies versus spy photos of women who don't know they're being photographed?

Both are "porn", one is clearly hostile, the other is clearly not.