Minor update: added 184 Moment Deathwish. Unloaded the MSP 99. GPOs for sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
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Which two to bring to Big Sky in a couple weeks?
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Minor update: added 184 Moment Deathwish. Unloaded the MSP 99. GPOs for sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
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Which two to bring to Big Sky in a couple weeks?
The logical pair based on terrain and conditions: deathwish and 107ti.
The "Big Sky" pair: What you don't care about blowing an edge out on.
What'd you end up thinking? They pivot as well as the deathwish? How do they do in chop?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
Holding out for a forecast that can rationalize bringing the renegades. It’ll be deathwish + ren or deathwish + Ranger….Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeMagnet
Probably looking like the latter.
Was moving my skis around yesterday afternoon and realized I had not taken a quiver pic for this season.
184cm ON3P ASYM Billy Goats w/STH 16 - Best resort pow ski of all time imo. Not much else to say about that.
184cm ON3P Steeple 102s w/extra carbon w/P18s - So many good memories on these sticks. Probably have 275/300 days on them and they are still kicking. I mostly use them as low tide/spring slush skis at this point but god damn do they crush variable conditions.
186cm Rossi Sickle w/CAST - Current daily driver. I had a chance to try these a few years ago and finally got my hands on a minty pair last spring. Whatever turn you want they will make it. Charge, slarve, carve, spin, dust on crust, deep manky pow, ect... they will do it and do it well. Rocker/Flat/Rocker is the shit if the snow is 3D at all. I am officially a convert to the cult of Sickle. I just wish they were more durable. One season in the San Juans and they are already 1/4th ptex.
188cm Salomon QST 106 w/MTN - Current dedicated touring skis. I've never really fallen in love with them. I thought I'd like the heavy-ish ski with the lighter binding/boots combo but with the kind of variable shit we tour a lot here in the Juans I just haven't loved them. I'm looking at the WNDR Intention flat camber, Raven or BG tour 110 as a replacement for next season.
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Not Pictured - 182cm Wagner's - Unmounted currently, but look like excellent spring touring skis. Belonged a friend who passed away last year. He beat them to shit, so I tuned them up really nice and have been waiting to get bindings to put on them. Hopefully I'll get that done before the spring really kicks off.
Touring:
160cm Voile WSP/Moonlight Telepure - Occasional skimo racing and fitness skins
180cm Praxis BC/Meidjo 3.0 black - Daily driver touring ski
189cm DPS Lotus 120/22D Lynx - Powder touring
Resort:
184cm ON3P Wrenegade 96/Outlaw X- More days than not this is the ski I am on (pray for snow)
192cm Dynastar Legend Pro 105/Outlaw X- Got these real cheap, realistically too big for me. A novelty. 190cm Moment Deathwish/Outlaw X- Do everything soft snow ski, one of my favorite skis ever.
189cm ON3P Cease and Desist/Outlaw X- 20" fell overnight and I'm front row on Wildcat. Really any time it snows a foot or more overnight with a soft base these come out.
Not pictured are some 200cm skinny skis for skiing with leather boots in the spring or actually nordic skiing. Also not pictured is the six boot quiver, four plastic and two leather.
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^My main picks this season.
End of season update. Somehow still hunting for additions (not out of need) and the GPOs and Deathwish are FOR SALE.
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Corvus v Q Lab v 107ti: what comes out when?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
Q lab is old and tired after several seasons as DD; it’s now relegated to low tide duty. Ranger has been DD last couple years. Corvus is new and feels real nice in spring slush. Won’t know until next year which makes sense where. The slot, if there even is one, between renegade and the 10x ski is the present conundrum. Should also find a legit hard snow ski.
You need a sender squad :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
I can wait for DTMs to hit gear swap. [emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
Second thisQuote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
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Here’s my current quiver although the two on the right are hitting gear swap. Probably won’t have time to post details for a few days but DM me if interested. I see you looking, Mustonen…
Starting with the outgoing skis:
Sender Squad: This ski is a lot of fun for pointing it in a straight line through almost anything while being easy to shut down when needed. Only mildly annoying in tight terrain/big moguls due to length/weight/width. Unfortunately, tight terrain is where I like to spend my time so I’d rather optimize for that. Replacing with the Wildcat 108, which I hope will be ~25% more maneuverable/playful and I’m willing to give up some stability/suspension at speed.
Bent Chetler 100 at 180: bought as a Dad ski. Complete opposite of Sender Squad: short, light, and playful. Perfect for chasing kids through mini parks and mellow terrain on the West Coast. Unfortunately I do most of that kind of skiing on the East Coast. Want something narrower with better suspension.
New quiver:
J Skis FastForward 181: East Coast/Dad ski
Wildcat 108 190: West Coast/travel one ski quiver
Not sure the FF is going to work for me but I’ve always got the J 5 day guarantee. Will get my first day on them tomorrow.
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Everybody lined up back home before getting put away.
Don't need to break down every pair, but a few notables from this season:
-191 Mantra: haven't had a pair of these since they came out; still not the best at anything, but do literally everything pretty damn well. Skied these more than I'd like due to lackluster snowpack. They're still not my favorite frontside skis, but they are damned versatile.
-189 Atomic Vantage 107Ti: Settled on -2.3 for the mount; pretty happy there. A bit too turny for firm snow for my tastes, but are stupid quick in the trees without feeling washy when you open them up. Nice locked in feel in crud and dust on crust.
-190 Kneissl Tankers: are still the shit. If anyone has some moldering in the basement, I will happily liberate them from you.
-LP 105's were unmounted so I could figure out the Vantage; I'll mount them back up for next year and ski the Atomics when these die. Wish I had more days to ski them, but I have much better hardpack skis and that's what our season was.
-202 Ranger 108Ti: Picked them up midseason because they were too cheap to say no. Ended up mounting at -3, and they fucking rip. Quick, lively, tons of pop and grip, good float and fun all around. Totally different feel from the 188 in all the good ways. Plenty stable without feeling like a monster truck. Will ski till they're dead.
My ski preferences stalled about a decade ago; so I have some backups for when other skis are retired. Order of operations for my next few hard snow DDs are: Mantras, Tankers, SR95s, Legend 94s, SC97s. If it snowed more here I'd probably get hip to the new jive, but for what I'm doing on a daily basis, "loose" and "surfy" just aren't attributes I need.
-3 felt perfect for the 202 Rangers for me too. That ski is awesome. Truly unique in how easy it skis and how much it rips.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZomblibulaX
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Storage time unfortunately
Be happy to help you out if those 3rd string SR95s start lacking use…Quote:
Originally Posted by ZomblibulaX
Note where zomblibulaX’s ski straps are. I don’t believe you want to store squeezing the camber.Quote:
Originally Posted by cinnepa
The whole point of straps aside from keeping the skis together is to wedge in between the contact points so your bases and edges don't grindfuck all summer long, thus location will vary depending on your rocker lines. And your brakes do the former purpose well enough for the underfoot area that it doesn't need additional help there anyways.
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Reckoner 102 being mounted…
Cold dead hands. Love that ski, but I only need so many similar skis mounted up at one time. I've reached the point where I'm so unhappy with my options to replace my frontside/piste skis that I'm almost afraid to ski what I have because I know I can't find a suitable replacement. It's not healthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
Thank you, I've been looking for appropriate terminology for that phenomenon for decades now.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnakeMagnet
Mind if I ask why you unloaded the 99s?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
Didn’t really do it for me. They were plenty capable, but didn’t make me smile and I never reached for them. YMMV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey
Kinda leaning towards the Ravens instead tbh. Maybe with CAST so I can double down on inbounds touring. I keep bouncing between various skis but fuck it, take the pokemon approach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mustonen
I absolutely love the Raven as a touring ski but I have essentially zero interest in skiing them inbounds. They're good to great in a whole lot of types of untracked(ish) snow but get knocked around a lot in chopped up stuff, and aren't much fun on groomers (which are obviously about the last thing they're designed for, but a very real part of resort skiing most places even if they're not what you're seeking out). Awesome skis, but putting CAST on them for 50/50 duty feels like a poor use of them to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey
I was reading the Hoji thread and it was kinda of a mixed bag on opinions, but I definitely take yours into consideration too. Theres a whole bunch of 50/50 (which will really be 70/30) options including the Deathwish, Ravens, Woodsman etc. Hard to pick!Quote:
Originally Posted by HAB
I have Ravens as well, mounted with Tectons, and agree with HAB’s assessment.
Funny. I have Ravens with Duke PT 16s….and I wholeheartedly disagree with above as I love skiing my Ravens inbounds.
Eg having the Ravens set up to rip fast inbounds saved a powder hwy trip at Red and Whitewater with dust on crust for 5 days. I think what makes them a great bc ski (make shit snow skiable and feel ok) is also needed inbounds sometimes. The Ravens ski great inbounds for their reasonable weight. Shockingly fun on groomers (even icy groomers) when you engage the whole edge. I haven’t skied them in deep crud, but for going fast on dust on crust, groomers and pow I love them.
So likely two pair is needed.
PS I have Bentchetler 110s with Tectons for more dedicated bc laps.
Agreed. I had to use my tech mounted Ravens for a morning of on piste in Europe last month. The faster I went the more fun they were as I engaged the full edge/side cut. Of course, you gotta have a lot of room for that and euro grooming doesn’t hurt either. Not sure if they would be as fun forced into tighter turns.
My take on Ravens is that they are fun in soft snow, less so everywhere else. As in I cannot remember a ski I grew to dislike more in low tide/icy/firm conditions than the Ravens.
Sure, they are a shit ton of fun in softer snow, but I have wider (and frankly better) skis for those conditions (too). We get everything from somewhat blower through maritime through icy where I ski for the most part.
So I can totally understand that people love them, especially given the previous iteration of the Hoji. But they are def not a versatile shape that will jam with all skiers across most conditions (something a ski in this waist with kinda needs to be able to for universal praise).
I am pretty lucky to be close to the mountains, as well as building a home at the base of my local hill. So maintaining a 1-2 ski quiver is probably only going to last this year lol.
Ya if it’s soft and the snow has any depth then I’m on Renegades, BC 120s or Nomad 115s.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-kapow
Funny how we are all so different in our perceptions and taste. Cause when I read your post and was like WTF?
I find my Ravens very versatile, and it is the ski that I most reach for when low-tide at Whistler and the snow is off. eg. ice, re-frozen shit, dust on crust etc. Everyone else complains about these conditions (cause they suck) but when I’m on the Ravens they make the conditions just seem way better than they are. Something about that Hoji-ish shape, and it’s ability to carve on the long effective edge when the ski is rolled over, and then switch instantly to slide/release long turns, with the rocker. I’m really glad I put Duke PTs on mine. Cause they get more use inbounds.
Same here. I had to ski so much refrozen garbage on the Raven and loved them (as much as you can love anything in bad snow like that) due to the reasons you mentioned. Although, I've also wondered if it was because my edges were straight from the factory and very sharp. So the ski shape allowed me a shit ton of versatility, but the razor-sharp edges were there if needed too. Which made the ski perfect, for me, in the conditions.
Of course, not trying to convince anyone the Raven is the end all be all. Ski what works for you. And having sharp edges isn't a revelation, but I mostly tour for pow so tuning is def something I'll actually stay on top of with the Raven.
Yeah, I dunno - it might have been a mount point thing, the edges being off or something else being the matter, but at the end I could not wait to sell them. Kinda weird as I really liked them at first, but then completely lost confidence in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by kc_7777
Might have to give them a second try with a new pair at some point, though they'd be seriously hard pressed to outperform my beloved BMTs. :)
Couldn’t get my hands on some new nordicas from gear swap for some reason so added the BC version.
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Left to right:
- Praxis Protest - 177 - enduro core — awesome on super deep days. Way more predictable when trenching than other pow skis. New this season and I only took these out ~4 days this year in the wasatch, and I ski every day. I had many of the best turns of my life on them. The way you can pitch tips into deep untracked and you know they’ll come back up makes pow skiing insanely fun, can truly get pitted while making a good pow turn. On days that aren’t psycho deep I still grab the 118 over these because the 118 is just quicker and more playful.
- Salomon QST 118 - 178 — amazing pow ski. Pretty much pull these any day I know I’m going to be able to ski a ton of untracked and not psycho deep. So fun in any type of pow - very surfy and I love the pop you can get out of a good pow turn. Also in soft chop they’re like trampolines launching from bump to bump, which is so fun. Scary in firm, but if I hit firm on these I picked the wrong ski for the day.
- Blizzard Sheeva 11 - 180 — kinda fun all around ski. A bit less surfy than the 118 in pow; the way I describe it is you’re making the turn you set, and that’s that. I skied these a bunch when it was chalky and they’re great for steep chalk, but I’ll probably dump these next season if I can find the new QST 106 next season for cheap
- Salmon QST 106 - 181 — also kinda fun all around ski. More surfy than the Sheeva, so if I’m pretty confident I’m going to be skiing pow but might be skiing some firmer snow I grab these. If I can find the new QST 106 for cheap, these will become dedicated rock skis.
- Rossi Experience 100 - 174 — pretty fun carver that can handle steep chalk well. Has great energy out of turns and is also fun in spring corn. These used to be my groomer / spring ski in the wasatch, but the Blade easily took that slot, so I’ll probably make these my east coast skis (I travel east a few times a year and will just keep them there)
- Dynastar Mythic 97 - 177 — touring ski. Fun enough to wiggle low angle pow and ski corn. Didn’t take it out a ton this year, but it sure is nicer walking up with these and hojis instead of 106’s and Striders.
- Line Blade - 169 — insanely fun carver and corn ski. Can’t praise this ski enough, it totally rips and makes groomer days very fun. As long as it’s not bullet proof, this thing trenches. It also breaks free easily in corn, and can lay larger radius turns pretty well for its crazy turn radius. Easily the most fun ski I’ve bought. I love skiing pow but a good corn day on these is close to a pow day.
- Rossi WC SL - 155 - always fun on super firm days
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Bigfeet
156 Ride War Pig
185 Nordica Radict - the boatiest
185 Rossignol Black ops w/ fks 155 - the hype is real I love these
188 Crosson Bode Dissenter 118 w/ STH216 - the bodiest - carve gs turns everywhere
189 Dynastar Menace Proto w/ p18 - fun and poppy, but I trust the tip on the black ops more
184 Volkl V-werks Katana w/ kingpin 13 - gets it done everywhere
184 Head Kore 111 w/ Attack 17 - non-existent swing weight and nice combo of light, stiff, and playful
185 Nordica Enforcer 110 w/ p15 - very existent swing weight and powerful combo of heavy, damp, and heavy
177 K2 Poacher w/ p18 - an amazing 96 underfoot all mountain ski that is also the best park ski
185 Volkl Revolt 85 w/ p18 - carving forward and backward
183 Stockli Laser AX w/ p18 - hero carving
190 Blizzard Firebird GS 27m w/ Comp 20 - these things are not designed to be "had fun on"
200 RD Bad Dog w/ s900
200 K2 CV comp w/ Salomon 747 14's
200 K2 Extreme w/ Salomon 957 14's
188 Volant Chubb w/ s916 - immaculate stainless steel - the heaviest *chefs kiss*
177 Salomon 1080 JF Cusson w/ s912
178 Rossignol S5 w/ STH14 - "it snowed in the city" skis
176 Salomon Dumont unmounted - no words needed
take everything else, but pry the black ops, the katana, the poacher, and the laser out of my cold dead hands
*bonus bad dog pic*
https://i.imgur.com/ydG4bdj.jpg
^ that is an awesome quiver, and the bad dog pic is ill and dope.
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Those all black Vwerks Katanas are so gorgeous