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It did look like ice. When I walked around the corner to the patio it took me a minute to realize what I was looking at.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
Yes Fofo....it totally sucks. Was a nice table for that spot but I did get 10+ years out of it.
I dropped and broke my Gaudi espresso cup yesterday--gift from my wife. I've had it for 10 years. Guess we need to go back to Barcelona and get another one. Too bad. ; - )
I’d probably eat it if I worked there.Quote:
Originally Posted by AK47bp
Dispersed campsites out here are getting overrun by the homeless. Sometimes they leave just their trash. Sometimes they leave their whole camp. I think what's in the pic there is a box spring. The mattress is out of sight behind the tree. There was a PT cruiser parked on the access road with no one around. Talked to a #vanlifer nearby who said he'd been here a few months and the PT cruiser hasn't moved. There was another woman nearby living in her broke down car. Trash everywhere around. USFS doesn't seem to care.
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Was just about to cook dinner when this big truck/trailer pulled in and set up next to me. First thing the guy did was fire up the generator. FFS. Went over and talked to him, he was cool and moved it to the far side where I couldn't hear it. He seemed shocked it would bother me. I told him it was pretty loud. Really? It's only the small 3000 watt model. Well, its fucking loud compared to the silence I was enjoying before you showed up. I didn't say that, but I think he got the point
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People with generators don't seem to understand that people camp in places with no power because they want to get away from stuff, they assume that everyone is like them, and camp in places with no power because they have a generator and don't need power.
Couple parks their very large RV along the shore of Donner Lake mid day, turn on the generator, and spend the day in the RV.
do they cover the windows to conserve a/c also?
My rule for campsites is that they have to be quieter than my yard. Dispersed only, none of those asphalt strips lined up one by one like a mall parking lot.
A female friend who has more concerns about personal safety will only camp in designated, reserved sites. I understand her reasoning, but I don't know if crowded campgrounds are any safer than remote dispersed sites with nobody around. She just bought a $100K class B with minimal ground clearance, to go camp in those spots. It's a nice RV, but for the money and intended use, I'd just buy a trailer for $80-90K less.
That’s a lot of hotel room stays.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
We were camped out at a dispersed site the other day next to a nice creek with a wading hole for the kids. Group of four cyclocross riders come riding up the road/trail at like 730 am and look over, roll right through our camp and stop right next to the creek and proceed to have some natural history discussion about the area. I’m cooking breakfast about 15 feet away from them sort of just stunned.
I’ve never seen anyone do anything like that in my decades of camping.
I've mentioned this before but I have a neighbor who powers his shop/apt vacation home with a generator because he couldn't get a power easement. Fuckin' sux. It is so loud at night - sound just carries through the valley. Can't believe he's been there during this heat. He lives about 10 mins away in a nice house. Dude is "interesting."Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
A group I've been backpacking with for years, we were camping along a creek with multiple camp spots here and there along the trail. Well we were hanging out around camp during the afternoon and two other backpackers just come strolling through our camp looking to get down to the river to get some water, we were like "we have dogs" and "there are lots of spots along the creek to get water upstream and downstream from us". We just kept eyeing them as they were fucking around doing something down by the creek (not sure if they were actually getting water or what), they asked us on the way out of our camp if we knew of any close camp spots and we replied, yes, LOOK for some campspots that aren't near ours there's plenty along the creek if they just fucking looked.Quote:
Originally Posted by old_newguy
Yep, people are just becoming more bold and not giving a shit about anyone else.
Soooo, the MIL is staying with us for a few days. She recently moved to Texas with my batshit nutter SIL and her family. She arrived last night, and proceeded to extoll the great state of Texas and good ol' Governor Abbot for nearly an hour. She ended her soliloquy by telling Mrs. Seano we should really consider moving there, because FREEDUMB. I opined that it would be a dark day in hell before we so much as set foot in a state ran by religious kooks and gun fags. Fucking annoying. She is currently exploring hotel options......
Horseshit. Door handles. Do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by KQ
Damn. Hang in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by seano732
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Originally Posted by evdog
We had SxS's drive right through our campsite multiple times this weekend, one did it twice. It's not worth typing out in detail why this was entirely unnecessary and dickish, but it most certainly was. They were nominally courteous and drove through pretty slowly, but it was still baffling.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnjam
Not sure why these people even go camping. Sugar their fuel.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
Yeah, if he hadn't been cooperative I was going to point out that the reason I dispersed camp is to get away from people like him. What was interesting/annoying was he offered to move it to the far side of the truck where I wouldn't be able to hear it. Which means he knew I'd be able to hear it where he first set it up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
I haven't had very many bad experiences dispersed camping. The most interesting one was near Sedona, before it really exploded. Was camped in a spot that wasn't well known, up on a hill above a paved road outside of town. Driving back to camp in the dark we look up and see a campfire going pretty much where we were tent camping. There is a car parked at the bottom of the steep rutted access road to camp. We were parked at the end of the road, no established sites beyond ours. This guy had carried his shit up the road and through our camp, and set up his own 50 ft beyond where I guess there was a clearing in the brush. And was just sitting there enjoying his campfire. Never came over and said anything to us. In the morning we were sitting around having breakfast when he started carrying his stuff out through our camp. Everytime he walked through we all stopped talking and just stared at him. It was very strange. I hope it felt awkward enough for him that he'd never do something like that again. There were plenty of spots at the bottom of the hill.
Seriously. I freaking HATE it when people bust out their generators right next to your camp site and just leave them running 24/7. Doesn't necessarily help any when you're NOT anywhere near them, because you can hear those damn things across an entire lake with how sound travels.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnjam
I wonder if someone's already tried stuffing something like a Tesla battery pack into an RV yet. Could probably run everything in an RV for like a week. Then maybe those tools wouldn't be such obnoxious "campers."
Last summer we were camped at a no-reservations, no services CG (so it was a CG, not dispersed). First night was glorious and quiet and beautiful. Day 2, a family rolls in next to us with a camper and tents and whatever. They set up a generator, and get it running. Similar to your story, they set it up some 50' away from their camper because they knew it was noisy and didn't want to hear the noise. But they set it up between our sites. We talked to them and they were nice about it, supposedly had a baby in the camper and they needed the generator for the a/c or something. In any event, they ended up putting a makeshift box over the generator to cut down the noise, but still annoying AF. And it's not like you can force them to turn it off, it's not against the regs (except when it was "quiet hours" in the CG) or anything, just against etiquette.Quote:
Originally Posted by evdog
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by old_newguy
I'm at the point in my life where I either go backpacking ("real" camping) or I stay in a nice hotel/motel.
You and I, sir, could hang out. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by seano732
In the generator or in the RV.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnjam
'Cause I like where your head's at. :fmicon:
I've told this story before: we packed into the Wind Rivers Cirque of the Towers early July. We were the only people there. (It was a long time ago). We camped on a little bench near timberline with a little snow runoff stream and a few scraggly trees to break the wind. There are dozens of similar sites on the amphitheater above (used to be) Lonesome Lake. Second day a coed youth group rolls in and camps 20 feet from us--I'm guessing church affiliated. That night they build a big bonfire with what little dry wood there was in the area and are singing campfire songs late into the night. My friend Michael--long hair and beard, prominent cheekbones, hawk nose, deep eye sockets--pretty much Charles Manson--squats in a snow bank just outside their circle with an ice axe across his knees, rocking back and forth and staring into the fire. A boy cries out--"come sing with us". Michael doesn't respond. A girl cries out "He's got no shoes!" The singing stops. I run up grab the ice axe, grab Michael by the shirt and drag him away. "Goddammit Michael you forgot to take your pills again." We were up at 5 and they were gone. Out of the cirque altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnjam
I think I might know that hill. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by evdog
I understand that homelessness sucks and many of the homeless have serious issues, but why is it that they seem utterly incapable of discarding their trash?Quote:
Originally Posted by evdog