These are only the flat skis under the bed, but I thought I’d post a pic.
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These are only the flat skis under the bed, but I thought I’d post a pic.
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187 W116?
You looking for some 192s?Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
They're 182's.
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Originally Posted by thejongiest
you need two left ski stickers from REI
Pretty Bog-standard stuff for a quiver that was reset recently for being too old/short/trashed/straight. And not the iconic-retro-nostalgia kind.
Dust-collector; 3rd-own rock whipper; Daily bastard; Soft crap. It's getting bigger slowly. In fact these just came in the door last week. Will let y'all know how they deal with core shots.
The 2021 Wildcats look so good with Forza 2.0 Pivots.
Srsly. These 2 belong together!Quote:
Originally Posted by AEvospace
At Norseman’s recommendation I decided to quit arguing with teh rat flu deniers to give y’all an updated quiver pic (at least the stuff that gets skied.)
L-R
183 mx83, scored last year on GS, drilled once, zoomers
189 bmx105hp, scored this summer from marshal, stoked to ride this season.
194 4x4 Big, the millennial “longboards”
186 LP, early season get-in-shape rock boards, originally belonged to the unicorn scored via TAFKALWS
187 Menace/Slicer 98, make the mountain fun again
192 LPR, aka the “time machines”
192 mf108, all rounder
189 mf118, ski pow and carve turns too
193 supergoat, maritime pow and crud
189 bg 108 tour layup, bc pow slayers
192 Protest, DEEP acquired via CascadeLuke
188 megawatt, deep but with rocks
192 wailer 99, chopped to 187, all other tourist duties
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schwing
great quiver
yes, for sure - very nice indeed
Those look like my old Protests. I don’t need them back at all but I do sort of miss them…Quote:
Originally Posted by jackattack
Nice quiver
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Jackattack, I didn't realize you had Protests. How do you like them compared to RES shapes?
Nice quiver
They’re fantastic skis. Super surfy and effortlessly drift through the deepest blower. Better than the goats in pure unconsolidated pow but lack the heft and shape for smashing through crud.Quote:
Originally Posted by AEvospace
I bring them with me to the Rockies but only ski them when it’s cold and dry or I know I’ll get a bunch of untracked laps in the pnw. Being in WA, they only come out a handful of days a year. I hope to ski them in Japan someday.
Last April at Stevens Pass
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Where did you mount them? From the picture it looks like they're almost as far back as the SGs?Quote:
Originally Posted by jackattack
They’re about -1.8 IIRC. I didn’t drill them, figured I’d try the the existing mount and I like them there.Quote:
Originally Posted by sf
Nice, thx for the info
Strong quiver Jack. Have a feeling those BMX will rise to the top of rotation on shallow rippin days..
Glad you’re getting time on the ProTests - the drill was intended @ -1.75. So yah in that region. Seemed well balanced to me
Solid line up thereJA
As a fellow supergoat/protest owner they make a perfect 1-2 punch for deep Alpy days that get cut up by midday
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Yes. Totally agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackattack
I agree with this 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by SeatownSlackey
But you never ski Alpy, so there's that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kopi_Red
Killer quiver. I want like half the skis you own.Quote:
Originally Posted by jackattack
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I have not posted a quiver pic in quite a while I think.
Rossignol Experience 94 Ti - 187cm (hard groomer with some metal to smooth out the chatter. I thing these saw about 5 runs last season)
ON3P Woodsman 102 - 181cm (bough these since there is a little more fall line skiing at MHM as opposed to Timberline)
ON3P Jeffrey 108 - 181cm (last years DD, fresh snow, park. I'm sure they will compete with the WD for DD status)
ON3P Jeffrey 118 - 186cm (obviously pow)
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Home build
184 salmotrutta 112 - retired
184 storm king 120 - retired
186 salmo BC 112 - retired
Regular stuff
186 Worrh Magic’s - party days
Wife DPS 99
Wife Icelantic rivitor 95
Wife Icelantic Nia Pro 105
183 DPS Lotus 138 Hybrid - Nor’easter lifts
186 K2 MB108ti - daily lifts
186 K2 MB106 USA - daily walks
186 K2 MB116 Limited - Nor’easter walks
184 K2 Reckoner 99 - Sold
184 K2 Reckoner 112 - not sure what to do with this one
192 DPS Lotus 138 flex2 - holding
Grassroots Powsurfer - fun in the woods
Snurfer - kids fun in the yard
Wife’s Burton
186 Volant spatulas - thanks Shane
❤️ On the short list of people Id love t0 ski a lap or two with some day.Quote:
Originally Posted by L8APX
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Blizzard Quattro RX
Moment Wildcat 101
Faction CT 2.0
Faction CT 3.0
Moment DWT (got some voyagers I need to mount on em)
Armada JJ UL
Moment Wildcat (118)
Only addition so far this year are the DWTs, super pumped for them and the Voyagers. Brought the Quattros and CT 2.0s back from Europe with me this summer to add to my quiver here in SLC. I might sell the shifts on the CT 3.0s and stick some pivots on them, not really sure. It's maybe my favorite ski of the bunch but gets very little ski time due to other skis just being more specialized. Next ski will probably be a thinner touring option (low 100s) or the BC120s because I need some more artwork for my office... (sucker for that topsheet).
As someone that's about the pull the trigger on some new BG118's as his primary resort/heli/cat pow ski (mostly in CO)...i'm curious what you mean by the BG's not being great in "pure unconsolidated pow"Quote:
Originally Posted by jackattack
relativity.....said some Smhaaaart guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by WILLSKIFAST
i'll go ahead and speak for JJA and say no one here is saying BGs aren't a top tier option for a deep day. Just if you are going to compare them to an even more untracked specific shape that skews more r/r (Protest, L138, etc) that BG isn't going to be quite as loose/surfy. But key here is not to loose sight that we are dissecting minute pow skiing differences between a ski in the top 5% of all pow skis and those in the top 1-2%.
plenty of folks here way happier to grab BGs for their pow days and be rewarded with a super fun pow ride that is damn near just as much fun when it starts to get cut up. In other words, dont let the neuroses of the mag collective make you second guess a purchase of a nearly universally adored ski
Slackey gets it.
I guess if you were sled/cat/heli more than 50% of your pow days you might consider the Protest or the C&D. If, like most of us, 99% of your time is in the resort you can’t go wrong with the goat. ATMO
Great insight here. Thank you! Now I'm even more curious, though...which pow skis are in the top 1-2% for you???Quote:
Originally Posted by SeatownSlackey
Protest (and similar 5 point side cut skis, Magic J), one of the versions of the Spoon tip DPS (probably the 138), something like the Pontoon, or the C&D. Think the uber fats that are very easy to slarve a turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by WILLSKIFAST
I love fat skis, but over 115mm is overkill for all but the .0001% of days. I do still have Pon2oons, but they rarely get skied because I almost always grab something about 115mm wide. If I lived in Japan, AK, or maybe BC, I’d grab another pair of Uber fats, but outside that, no thanks.
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Agreed. 118 is prob as wide as I would go for something permanently in my quiver. I figure I can always demo something fatter if I'm somewhere that justifies it, but I've skied 36" storms on 115 uf and did juuuuust fine..Quote:
Originally Posted by skibrd
The 2022 182 cm BG118 is gonna replace my 2010 188cm RossiS7 (actually measures 184cm, and Im pretty sure has the same "5 point design" you speak of; maybe even began the movement? not sure), and was always my favorite ski as my skills were developing early in my ski career. Since becoming a harder charger, it's proven to be a little soft for my liking with a less than supportive tail (almost nonexistent), and was always way easier to get into the backseat on them than other skis I've purchased since, but I still love how easy they are to throw sideways. I'm hoping I can throw the new BG's sideways just the same!!! Everything I've read says I will be able to, so here's to hoping.
Random other question for all the mags....buddy of mine has discounts through Fatypus, which I've only seen on the hill less than a handful of times over the 12-13 years I've been skiing and feels like they are losing traction as a company. Can't say I love their topsheets either - anyone ever been on those? The D'Riddim is prob the shape I'd look at...which funny enough, claims it has a "5point design".
I agree, and I think most places that you’ll go for deep deep pow, excluding Japan because they love carving groomers, will have fat skis to rent.Quote:
Originally Posted by WILLSKIFAST
First 5 point design was either the Protest or v1 JJ, I think the Protest was technically first but both came out the same year I believe.
Yeah, your Rossi’s are dead lol. Don’t be afraid to check out the current Rossi lineup if you want a charger. They are surprisingly good skis and do really well when flying around. I spent a bunch of days on the Sender Squads, and absolutely loved them.
When I ask someone on a pair of Fatypus I get a “meh” unless the person skis for them then I get “greatest ski ever, totally changed my skiing, I’m the greatest skier on the mountain because of these skis,” or some other similar bullshit.
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Gen 1 JJs, S7s, PM Gear Lahasa, and Billy Goat were all ‘5 point’ designs and developed over 07/08 and were first available 08/09, to various degrees. Can’t remember when the protest showed up, but I want to say it was after 2010. Current ARV 116, M-Pro 118 and Billy Goat are evolutions of those designs. Things have obviously changed from how raw those initial five point designs will.
Armada claims the 5 point with the gen1 ARG which first showed up for the 06/07 winter. No one gave a fuck about that ski. Pontoon had a greater impact on 5 point ski design and showed up earlier.
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk. I’ll get a quiver picture when I figure out exactly what I want to do with it.
The protest should not be in the same discussion as those other skis as the shapes are not remotely the same. Protests are damn near R/R with just a red cunt hair of side cut directly under foot and a blonde cunt hair of camber. Also the widest part of the protest is directly in front if the toe of the binding where as the others are in the shovel, far away from the binding. Protests do not have the same feel on snow either, way betterer in pow, much looser, pivots better. Different fun.
With that said, the others are fun in their own right. I’ve owned most all those discussed, have Lhasa Fats in the quiver and they are a freakin riot.
If I had to just have one fat ski, the Lhasa would be it as it’s more versatile. Carves trenches in firm groomers, floats amazing and crushes chop.
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Originally Posted by jackattack
Superb quivers gents - well thought out and quality selections of fine snowsticks! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sessiøn
jackattack, would you mind comparing the SGs and M-Free118s in a few a words?
I grabbed this pair from TAFKALWS in April. I do have several days on the former Menace version, but it's been a while since I've been on them. I'm going to a/b them against the mfree 108 and bmx 105 and probably whittle one out over the course of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by kid-kapow
As stated above following the SG v Protest comparison, this is all splitting hairs:
I really like how loose the mfree design is in pow, but still has the camber and sidecut to carve a turn with energy. I think the 118 will be the ticket for days between storm cycles when there's just enough blown in on certain aspects to surf a few turns and still enjoy groomed or bumped-up terrain on the ride back to the lift. For my size, I like to be on a 118 when some of my buddies are on 108s. The SG is really exceptional in natural 3-d high-density snow. It can make a rain or wind crust disappear and smash through dense chop that would cause the mfree's to hook or deflect, but can be a bit of work to keep tracking on a firm traverse or a less than perfect groomer.
Do they have overlap? Of course and I'm ok with that.
sweet - thanks for your thoughts, much appreciated.
I have been on/own wildcat108s, wood108s, wood108tours, BG108tours, BGs and MFree108s, so this type of skis obviosuly interest me in this kinda segment, like a lot.
I do find MF108 182s to be too soft in the tips/tails for a daily driver for my preferences, though perfect for a down time ski (hurt knee). The 180 MF 118 just seem 2-4cm shy of being a great lenght, even for my diminutive stature. But still, all feedback on said skis is much appreciated!
Blue house Maven came out same yr as JJ, at least the 5 point version.Quote:
Originally Posted by skibrd
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This years line-up.
172 Speedzone 12
193 4x4 Powertrac
185 4x4 Speed 963
185 Mfree99 (will be getting pivots)
182 Mfree108 w/Vipecs
192 LP105 (have another set in the rafters)
192 Mfree108
202 Lotus 138 Pures
Thing I would like to add: The new 192 Billygoat for a 108/138 tweener + Pescado w/ Tech for pow touring/tight tree stupidity.
And yes, the 185 Mfree99 and the 182 Mfree108 are basically the same length. The 99 is maybe a cm longer. Call it french math.
Only 1 ski > 110mm. Guess the shops in park city are right.