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A fleabay seller had monster 108s (the green ones) in 184 and 177 on firesale late last season. Was accepting offers of ~$200-215. Not sure if there are any left on ebay or what length you want but a WTB post on gs may be worth doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by AEvospace
I don't have any hopes of finding the rare 191s. I know people that have backups (cough, Tuco). People don't sell those. Mostly because people didn't buy them. I fully understand why companies got rid of them. I just wish they'd do reruns like Dynastar.
SkiBrd, you are right on one hand though too. I get what you are saying. A dynamic ski is capable of quite a bit under the right feet. As seen with the Mfree 108, in Verbier under Reine Barkered this year.
Not true! Some of us don't want to replace our balsatech skis annually!Quote:
Originally Posted by skibrd
I see people commenting here all the time about wishing these newer skis had more heft for resort use.
I bet you've never skied either of those skis pictured.
Haven’t skied them. Spent part of a winter on LP105s, close enough?
Some of the balsatech suck, we know, others are fine. I can out ski those skis just fine on my Sender Squads or Blanks. Two very different skis doing the same thing just as well. If you are athletic and can ski, you should be able to ski both a big charger or a more dynamic ski and keep up. It’s literally a coin flip if I prefer the Blanks, Sender Squads, or MX 98s. None of those three you need to replace every year.
I’m not moving to Tahoe. Why would I go somewhere it doesn’t snow in the winter so you can’t ski pow and summers are smoky so you can’t ride bikes. Never less houses are insane…. Probably moving back east then taking trips to JH.
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I was kinda excited to see where ski technology had evolved to between my '01 Volant Machete McG and the '17-'18 ski season. I demo'd at least 5 different skis that year and couldn't find anything that could touch the Machete. Sure, all had better float by very nature of the narrowness of the McG, but they all fell on their faces in some other crucial category. Some couldn't hold an edge just trying to stand in some icy hard-pack, I think it was the Rossignols that were doing pretty good until I got them up to speed and they had uncontrollable chatter, and I wasn't even going fast yet. The new skis were tossing me around in crud that the stainless steel didn't even notice. I finally had a ski tech tell me that I won't ever find another ski again that will run the way the Machetes did.
The next season was shorter for me and I was in Juneau, so I didn't have access to performance demos. I just rented whatever at Eagle Crest, and it was kinda fun to be on another "new" ski which was incredibly forgiving and really handled the terrain I threw at it pretty well, but it had a speed limit like I've never experienced before. No thank you.
I'm sold on the steel.
Since we went there, now I feel the need to respond with..I would much rather deal with the "dry" 300 inch years in Tahoe, rather than live back east. What's a big year back there? Jeeez.
We get some huge snowfall years here, sometimes well over 600 and sometimes 700 inches. I lived in Jackson during a big year before, for the full season, and it wasn't as much snow. Jackson has better quality snow though, and terrain.. Plus, I'd rather ski terrain like Mammoth and Squaw on a low snow year than anything in the east on a good year. Plus Plus we ski until July while we mountain bike and swim in the lake, and hang out in the big cities.
I say this, while I also want to get out of here. But the only places I would want to go would be Whistler, Jackson, or Chamonix.
Back to the skis, The LP105s are less ski than the 191 Monster 108s. Significantly lighter and softer. My LPs feel more locked in, but that's about the only place they feel burlier, and I think mine actually have a tune issue. If I can solve that, and they loosen up, they will be great skis, and I'll stop bitching about not having a Monster. However they will never be Monsters.
How do the MX98s compare?
I miss racing sailboats, and want to drive my own big boat. Simplest answer is I can’t do that pretty that anywhere out west. Plus I like Buffalo. There is more then big snow winters in my future. Time to step back a bit from my brain being programmed 24/7 about skiing and concentrate on setting down roots. I’m ok with that.
Let’s be clear, Tahoe is lucky to get 300in in 7 months, usually it’s a bunch less, then once every 7-10 years you get 1 or 2 huge storms that are so unstable you can’t go skiing, but let’s the resorts claim 700+ inches of snow. I’ll call BS where I see it. Sorry, I know Tahoe is the works greatest place to live according to my sister, but I don’t see it. The draw of being close to big cities is over for me, been there, done that. Granted Jackson plays games with the snow number too, whatever, the numbers all marketing bullshit, the snow speaks for it self.
I’d move to Whistler, Cham or Jackson if I could get a job that pays well enough, but I don’t so I’m looking elsewhere.
Where I’ll move depends on where I can get a job. Im looking in a lot of places and I’ll see what I can get my hands on, then decide from there.
If the Monster 108s are that big and heavy, count me out. I don’t need or want that. I spend WAY too much time hiking away from lifts to carry around an extra few pounds of skis if I’m happy with the Blanks, Sender Squads, BMX 115, or MX98s (red tip not the current version). Same reason as to why a bunch of my Pivot 18s became P14s, save weight.
The MX98s are damp and easy to ski. You can fly around on them and they just truck.
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I mean it when I say the Monster 108s(110mm underfoot for the 191) were my favorite skis ever. If you ever get a chance to try them, please do it. They are meant for someone like you. They had great weight placement tech to make them feel much lighter on your feet than LP105s do, even though they were almost 2800g/pair. I believe the big old Bodacious were around that weight and a lot of great skiers loved those in and out of resort boundaries.
Wish I could sail, but I definitely feel you on the big boat thing. Idk how big you're talking, I want a 30-39'. I can see myself spending June-November most years in Miami, and just leave in the winter to ski, whether Tahoe or wherever. That sounds nice.
I feel like I've read somewhere that the big MX98s are 2400g/ski? That's plenty, while still being light enough to throw around all day, every day. Those seem fun. Do they make the big size anymore?
Don't know, never skied LP105sQuote:
Originally Posted by skibrd
Haven't skied the others you mentioned either, so I will reserve judgement(see what I did there)
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Originally Posted by skibrd
Monsters 108 are quite similar to MX98.
They're a bit heavier (2720g in 191), and a bit stiffer, especially the front end. They're damp too, in an other way than MX98. They require more input (or weight) to be bend so initiating a turn is a little more demanding. If you are a 180+lbs guy this is not a problem. If not you'll have to be athletic.
On well prepared groomers, iced or not, MX 98 are easier to ski and a bit more lively. In moguls or shitty snow (what we ski the most here in Chamonix), despite their extra stiffness, Monsters are easier to ski due to more tolerant back end, less tricky.
I was very surprised how my 191 Monsters skied moguls. My Pro Riders will not do that with their current tune.Quote:
Originally Posted by east bear fr
I’ve been using splats tune on my LP105s. I do 1* base bevel underfoot then 1.5* on the tips and tails. Loosens them up but they still lock in when you want them to.Quote:
Originally Posted by AEvospace
Good to know, thanks for the infoQuote:
Originally Posted by Chugachjed
How do you like those Wren comp things?
Got a few folks asking about my homemade ski rack. Here are some detailed photos for those that are interested.
Just took a couple of 8' aluminum c-channels, attached them to the wall with some big washers and stud screws, then used some big nuts and bolts along with some rubber tubing to protect the edges and sidewalls. Haven't seen the bolts/rubber tubing put any damage on the sidewalls or edges in case you're wondering. Been using this rack for years in the garage. My only qualm with this rack is it's kind of a pain to adjust if you want to add more skis or move current skis around (remove ski, loosen bolt, slide over, adjust 2nd bolt, try to hang ski, probably fail, adjust bolt again, etc. etc.).
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Thanks for the details, I like it. I could see an option where by using longer bolts one could hang the skis from the front bindings (skis together). Lots of options.
Totally! Great idea. I may give that a try actually. Although I do like showing off my topsheets :)Quote:
Originally Posted by phatboy64
What are you replacing the S7 with?Quote:
Originally Posted by WILLSKIFAST
Leaning toward the new ON3P BG118. Pulling the trigger on $800 skis is not easy, though. The financially responsible part of my brain has been winning lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by AEvospace
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From left to right...
2012 (??) ON3P Jeronimo 181 (101mm) w/ BG top. Snapped the tails on the goat ski :(
(if anyone has a single 181 Jmo lemme know)
OG Armada Al Dente 178 - low tide IDGAF ski.. pretty clapped at this point
2019 ON3P Kartel 108 176 - will be replacing Jmo/J114 as DD
2015 ON3P Jeffrey 114 176 w/ EVO top - Pretty much wall art at this point
2016 K2 Pettitor 179 - CAST
J Skis Friend 189 (?) - Have not ridden, lots of mounts.. they were cheap
2014 ON3P Caylor 191 w/ "ON4P" top
My current ridiculously large bloated quiver:
191 Dynastar Pro Rider - My favorite ski evar. It can be a handful at times but it keeps me honest.
192 Dynastar MFree 108 - DD last year. It's an incredibly versatile ski. It's loose in fresh and it feels like a Dynastar when put on edge.
191 Praxis Lhasa Fat - It craves speed, holds an edge like a mofo and gets loose when needed. Really cool ski.
192 Praxis GPO - Jack of all traits and master of none. Mainly an early season rock ski now.
193 ON3P Super Goat - 1.5 flex. It's the best all day, inbounds power charger that I've been on.
196 Praxis ProTest - Awesome powder ski.
181 Line Sakana - Fun, touring, playful ski
184 Praxis Piste Jib - Flex 3, heavy core with verneer top. My favorite spring ski. Super fun and playful.
186 Dynastar LegendX 88 - No new/hard snow, all mountain ski.
189 Praxis Kusala - Effortless pow surfing ski. Point and shoot. Attachment 382390Attachment 382392
that is a beautiful quiver.
^thats a great quiver, props!
Ah. It’s aaaariight. I would have gone forza on the SGs and Kiwi on the Protests but to each his own. Kaulas need kiwi too. Lhasa Fat visuals are killer.
Nah... I like the subdued look of the Kiwi's on the SGs and Forza's look good with the tie dye bases on the ProTest's. And yes the Lhasa's look amazing.
Oooh, sexy time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kopi_Red
How do the Protests and Kusalas compare?
The two skis fill a similar role but they definitely feel different. Both are drifty and loose in fresh but the Kusalas are effortless (zero thought involved, just point and shoot) and the ProTest's are more work but they still feel awesome. The Kusalas are 2x4 stiff so when snow gets cut up the ride can really start to suffer. They lack suspension so they can beat the heck out of you in chopped up snow. The ProTests have more suspension so they handle cut up snow better. Both are awesome skis.
I was totally joking. Trivial nitpicking when there ain’t much to nitpick about. It is a beauty of a herd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kopi_Red
One picture of the almost complete quiver before tightening next season
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Rossi 9X WC 180
Blizzard Watzman 173
Head Monster 88 184
Kästle TX98 178
Kästle MX98 194
Head Monster 98 184
Head Monster 98 191
Black Crows Solis 173
Stöckli DP Pro+ 193
4frnt Raven 184
Head Supermojo103 193 (aka im103)
Head Monster 108 184
Head Monster 108 191
4Frnt Devastator 194
4Frnt Hoji 187
Proto Head Kore 117 189
Blizzard Bodacious 186
4Frnt Renegades 186
DPS Lotus 138 192
Only missing on the pic one pair of Head SL FIS and one pair of Fisher Ranger 90ti with ATK Raider 12
^^^Always a fave
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191 Monsters =
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here’s our messy quiver. need more wall space.
the spatulas are on the upper shelf- we pulled the bindings but will have to remount for spatula day.
the red Dynafit Hokkaidos and everything to the right are mine and everything left of that are Andrew’s.
although I did ski the woody pescados in japan. ah the joys of having almost the same bsl as your spouse [emoji854]
One of these days I’m going to show up and clean that wall up for you two…Quote:
Originally Posted by babybear
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kneissl big foot sighting!
The problem is that we have too many other hobbies that take up the other walls [emoji1]Quote:
Originally Posted by skibrd
haha my husband claims those were his breakthrough to back and front flips.Quote:
Originally Posted by m2711c
I think he got them for christmas when he was 13 or something.
I would say he still uses them at least once a year
Ah you frenchies and the OG René, what a quiver!Quote:
Originally Posted by east bear fr
East Bear, how do you like the 186 Bodacious compared to your "bigger" skis? The 186 size is still plenty stable? I always wanted that ski, but was afraid the 184.5cm true length would feel a little short. A bunch of people have said otherwise, I'm just still tallying up new opinions on it
At my size and weight (5'8 and 175lbs) stability is not an issue on these 186 Bodacious. At all. They're awesome in open terrain. They're my favs in big bumps of cut up snow, typically inbound from 10am after a good storm.
For a big guy and/or real hard charger 196 is probably better to get the juice of them, but 186 is enough for mere mortals IMO
How do the dp pro+ compare to the mx98?
Want to sell either of them to me [emoji846]?
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Thanks. Just got the René, craving to test them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr_pretzel
Honestly, this quiver is too big, I need to reduce it. MX98 are sold, Monster 108 184 are for sale, I should sell at least 3 more. Hope next winter will help me to choose.
They're a bit the same kind of skis, but DP Pro+ are even faster (than every freeride ski in fact), and way less forgiving. In 4 words, a lot more dangerous!!! And a lot more fragile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Don't Surf
Sorry, MX98 are sold already, and I don't know yet if I keep the DP Pro+. Winter will tell.