I can’t stop thinking about this bike but now you have me curious how much yours weigh? I sorta care [emoji38]Quote:
Originally Posted by beaterdit
Which size(s) do you have? I assume a medium in the mix?
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I can’t stop thinking about this bike but now you have me curious how much yours weigh? I sorta care [emoji38]Quote:
Originally Posted by beaterdit
Which size(s) do you have? I assume a medium in the mix?
The Lady's size small comes in at 34lbs with a Fox 36, DPX2, Code brakes, canfield wheels and cranks (not real light), EXO+ tires, and a GX cassette. She'll get an XO cassete when that one wears out. Definitely weight to be saved if you want to go in that direction. My medium was about 35 with EXT Era front (heavy) and Storia Coil rear, Codes, Onyx hubs (heavy), EXO+ tires. My Lithium is just shy of 36 with that setup and a DD tire out back. Our builds have prioritised DH but gonna build my Tilt back up at 140/128 with a Fox 34 for a more XC bias.Quote:
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Chris is probably the one really breathing the sigh of relief...Quote:
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Thanks-That is super helpful info on the builds and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by beaterdit
I wouldn’t care so much about the weight except that I have to chase around the dear husband, so I need all the advantages I can get [emoji13]
i9 buys out We Are One:
https://www.weareonecomposites.com/e...essrelease-faq
Guess that will be the end of ordering their wheels with DT hubs?
I read they stopped making the bikes so maybe they will start that up again ?
NSMB has a 1 hrs interview with Dustin Adams on we are one with nerding out on carbon rims
I never thought that their bike project was going to have legs, simply too niche, IMO.
The pinkbike thing said frames are done and not restarting.Quote:
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I blame it on the superboost rear ends.
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That's a bummer
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I despise when any biz thanks me for my patience or understanding. I do not have patience for bullshit or any understanding of it, so fuck you.And I don't think "Sincerely" is an appropriate way to sign an email saying essentially "we are taking your money, it's gone youg talent". Probably written by AI, but who knows, you should never underestimate the low level of people working in the bike industry.
They're telling him they no longer control his money, which is not exactly what you said. They are also straight up telling him to start a chargeback with his CC company, so they are not just telling him to pound sand.Quote:
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This - just dispute the charge and let the CC company handle the rest.Quote:
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Yup--important lesson to always buy stuff like this with a credit card (large purchase, future date of delivery) and not a debit card, paypal, check, whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
The credit card company will get you your money back. The company legally cannot give you your money back (at least with US bankruptcy rules) as you are now in line with everyone else who is owed money/product. But the credit card company can give it to you and then either withhold that amount from what they currently owe YT, or add it to their own tab.
That being said, I'm seeing some discussion that YT USA is not part of this, so US customers might be OK? Although if YT Germany can't get their shit sorted out, the US side of things is probably cooked no matter what.
at least you got a letter I just gota a raceface wearing LBS employee telling me there are no Shimano motors
Damn, that sucks. Hope they get it back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phall
Must be a razor thin margin with the deals they were giving. Great bikes at a great price and N American,atleast, customer service was very good. People are holding on to their money during these uncertain times i guess. I've been waiting for the release of their new bosch emtb
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Dunno about that, from how many we service in the shop that end up needing something directly from YT, they usually have to wait for seriously long lead times or a get long lag in communication. Direct sale brands come with a big question mark as far as actual support since you have no shop to help out. There's so much those brands can get away with (so as to not always help a customer by avoiding what they can) since they don't know the ins and outs of how the industry works. My shop is right next to RMU in breck who is doing a YT pop up shop and man the folks from the brand are the most anti bike community folks I've ever encountered. It's all about money and trying to look rad, that's it. </p>
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Pretty hilarious YT is talking about "discount wars" when they're literally the cause of it as a direct sale brand. </p>
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Ahhhhh, my comprehension really sucked reading that. My mistake!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I would peruse a line of bikes at the LBS and notice ever so often a missing part cuz I notice that kind of thing, its cuz some customer broke a part or it failed or sft SO shop bro borrowed it and when prt comes in that show room bike will get fixed but the customer bike was fixed right away and that service is something the end loser pays for
I was the starter for a recent enduro so I had every bike of note in town lining up in front of me and there were a few riders on YT's saving $$$ for sure
Im seeing their lack of cs support recently. I figured that was related to their recent financial problems but it could the last few years after financial equity firms took partial control. Ive always had quick responses and parts shipped quick apart from a wait for water bottle/cage to be restocked. Frame parts for my bike*pivots, bolts etc) have always been in stock.Now all the bikes come with a bottle/cage.Quote:
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They def cant complain about price wars. They've had the lowest prices for a while now. Thats help me absorb the price of a busted derailleur or worn drivetrain.
Theyre not the onlg bike vo teetering. Some much bigger companies are in the same position or close to it
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a couple years ago LBS bro sat me down at a kitchen table and for 2 hrs went on about how armageddon is coming all the stuff wrong with the industry in point form from too high margins too high courier costs too high shop costs cost of RE ect ect
Wow, So who will it affect I asks I ... everyone from the LBS to established bike brands which was not wrong cuz thats what we have seen
So who will survive ... an LBS with a good shop
So far LBS bro's RE business is OK Bro is actualy in RE not bikes just like macdonalds is in the RE business not the burger business
So what about bike business with no shop ?
People keep saying "high margin" when it comes to bikes. Maybe accessories? They certainly aren't talking about any bike brand I'm aware of. High prices? Yes. Definitely not high margin.
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it was my understanding shops makes the most off cheaper bikes and not much off dentist bikes ?
1.55 is bike mark up. Parts and accersories is 2(dbl wholesale).
Bike companies probably have jacked the prices but they wouldve been ok. The error was having exess stock thinking the huge sales numbers during covid and then when the economy was foring was going to be the norm. Now theyre stuck with huge aging inventory and still having to bring new bikes tp market.
A good honest customer service oriented lbs that doesnt overstock and knows its local market is always going to survive. They charge the same to work on bikes theyve sold or bikes that people buy elsewhere. Some people have corvette taste with chevette cash flow so they do what they can to get the good shit. 2nd hand or online. If the lbs is smart they gove everyone the fair service and pick up what future sales they can. Ive saved thousands and still got good dervice from good lbs' and in turn ive bought stuff. I used to like one great shop. They understood each customer. Everyone got a deal. Some new Joe off the strret got 10% off and he was stoked. He'd leave the shop, walk around the blook and come back and buy a t shirt just because he was stoked. Then the local hard core that sends people in the shop deal and he sends even more people in. The shop grows and they get busy busy. Then in a few years they burn out and lose the plot. You have to buy the right stuff for your market and know your customer, whether new or old
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