Chrysler Pacifica hybrid took the top spot in consumer report's list of least reliable vehicles.
FCA vehicles took 4 out of the top 10 spots.
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Chrysler Pacifica hybrid took the top spot in consumer report's list of least reliable vehicles.
FCA vehicles took 4 out of the top 10 spots.
Fix It Again Tony ......................................Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
This motor (when it's running right) is surprisingly nice. 283hp 270 torque isn't bad really and even though it's a minivan and I'm an old dude I still ask a motor for all it's got a few times a week. It just happens ya know.Quote:
Originally Posted by riser4
I'm so surprisedQuote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
Love my old man but he has driven Chryslers and Dodges his whole life with the exception of a brief Saab phase. Nearly all of them have been shitboxes. Kills me.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
Shitbox is really a term of endearment meant for things like '89 Civics, OG Forerunners and your mom's Camry that just won't die. Chrysler hasn't made anything deserving of the label since maybe the Rampage!
I don't think I've ever heard the phrase "surprisingly nice" when describing the Pentastar V6.
When it's right it's a good motor. My Challenger took care of itself nicely in a variety of situations and got 30+mpg on the highway. As often as we hear about and see problems with them there are millions with no problems.
I drove one of those and the gas one. The phev ones were $25k off MSRP with incentives and credits. Cheaper than the gas after all that. But, they drive horribly. There’s a noticeable vibration in the drivetrain.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
The ice one otoh drove much nicer but it’s still a Chrysler.
Of the ones I’ve driven I like odyssey the best. It just feels better. Tighter, more driveable.
I drove a Chrysler rental minivan a few years ago for like 3 days, moving my dad down to FL during Covid when all my sisters were freaked out about him getting on a plane. It drove nice- head and shoulders above the Chrysler products of my youth- didn’t have that stiff unnatural feel of the 90s era vehicles. That doesn’t mean it will still be nice at 100k miles of course but I was impressed.
Still went for the Toyota when it was time to buy though.
+1 on the rental Pacificas.
Wouldn’t want to own one though…certainly not out of warranty.
Besides the obvious annoyances the Pacifica has the big problem is they tucked the new motor too far back and there's no airflow so the rear bank gets really hot. All sorts of things are failing back there now that they have a few years on them. They don't show as running excessively hot because the coolant cools before it gets to the temp sensors as it runs through the system but the damage is being done.
Here’s one for sale in Canada:Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
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I mean... that's like $12,500 USD, innit?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyg82
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Interior configuration was mentioned earlier, this is how I typically rollAttachment 479036 The dog loves it and it's pretty obvious to any genius thinking it's worth breaking a window to get in can see that there's nothing there to steal. I do keep a bunch of stuff in the under floor compartment, that's why that seat is up. Tools go in the space where the jack is, there's plenty of room. Now I need a console for up front.
That rug really ties it together.
I actually feel the opposite about the console. The Sienna’s is huge. I’d rather have none or at least a much smaller one so it was easy to crawl back and forth. I suggest a small cooler between the front seats if you need something to store shit in
Ya. My 2007 Sienna had a flip up console, iirc. The 2011 has a massive monster that could probably hold that cooler, twice. It's in the way and I hate it. I'd prefer to be able to get between the front and back without exiting the vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownski
My wife likes it without anything there too. Both of the OE options are pretty intrusive so maybe I'll make something custom. I need a flat spot with ridged edges so I have a place to put lunch down and 2 more cupholders.
Because, why not?: https://insideevs.com/news/700148/te...dy-swap-video/
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First, the boys took a fire-damaged Model S and a $500 junkyard Odyssey to see if the two would even be a good fit together. And guess what? After several days of cutting and test-fitting, the washed-out minivan body proved to be a great shell for the all-electric base, thanks in no small part to that 1.6-inch wheelbase difference.
But it wasn’t exactly a plug-and-play kind of thing, so work continued to put the body on top of the working gutted Plaid that managed sub-9-second runs on the drag strip. Angle iron retainers and extensions were fabricated to bolt the steel body on top of the aluminum Tesla chassis, and a brand-new windscreen was also put in place of the old, cracked one.
The car looks like a regular 2001 Honda Odyssey from the outside and–except for the Unplugged Performance wheels and Plaid brake calipers–gives no hint of what lies beneath. Inside, however, it’s a different story, as is usually the case with extreme builds like this one.
The original 2020 Tesla Model S dashboard, yoke steering wheel, and front seats are part of the picture, but that’s about it, at least for the moment. The guys who did all the work say that they’ll continue to integrate as many Model S components as possible, but as things stand today, there are no rear seats, the rear doors don’t work because the bottom latch had to be cut off, the windows don’t work, and the lights don’t do what they’re supposed to. But the original hood latch was retrofitted and it can even open the slab of junkyard metal from the central touchscreen, which is nice.
I got a set of the Nokian Outpost APT last year expecting 50k+ out of them. I'm pretty good about rotating every 10k and when I went to do that a few weeks ago at 30k the rears were under 40% and look like they'll truly suck if it snows. I looked closely at the fronts yesterday and they're all split and cracked, they look like they're 10 years old and lived a hard life, they're still over 60% but the traction has been horrible for the last few weeks. Production date is June 2022 so it doesn't make much sense. I'm bummed because after looking at the details of the 60k treadwear warranty I can't meet it so I'm SOL. I've had such good luck with Nokians in the past that I want to go back with it even though this happened and get a set of the new, made in America, WR G5 in the 106 XL because that should be more than sufficient for a minivan in the mid 4k weight range. All I can figure is this last model made in Russia just didn't have the same QC that they always had before. Thoughts?
Top left is a menu for bears. Bottom right is incongruous with top left. Dad is a little weird.
We been driving minivans the last few months. Not seriously looking. Still prefer a wagon. I haven’t driven the latest hybrid Sienna. I think I like Sienna a little better than odyssey because of ride quality. We drove a 2011 limited today on an independent lot. It had an obvious oil leak so that’s probably why it was not on a dealer lot. I’ve been reading that oil leaks are pretty common on the gen 3 V6.
What source of the oil leak does your reading point out? The oil cooler hose and attachment? My Sienna is a 2011 LE.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
That’s the most common I guess and a relatively easy fix. Control arms are the other. We drove a 2011 AWD that had a noticeable vibration. The FWD one was dead calm. 2011 Limited w/100k was asking $16k and figured $1.5k to make it 100% plus tax and license approaching $20k. I wouldn’t buy one without HID headlamps. Car market rapidly cooling so no hurry.Quote:
Originally Posted by riser4
The engine bay was absolutely spotless and looked new so maybe it was fixed or lipstick on a pig.
I’d prefer one with adaptive cruise and heated steering wheel too.
That's a bummer to hear as I've been considering the same for the wife's car. Hopefully it is a QC thing and presumably none of the ones being sold today are made in Russia...Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
What was the issue with the warranty? No proof of rotation? Or just that you're not actually willing to run them down to minimum (since months of driving in snow with shit traction isn't worth a discount on new tires).
I've read a few reviews that are similar and on one of the car forums a tire guy was saying that as that factory was running out of time they ran low on some additives and whole batches of tires were run that aren't up to snuff. Most of them didn't come here to the US so you probably won't hear much about it and anything for sale here now was probably made here or Finland. I'm probably going to go with Nokian again but don't really need some of what the APT offers so I'll get the WR G5. It should be way quieter on the highway, get better mpg and be nearly as good in shit weather. I loved the WR G4 I had a few years ago and these look nearly the same but are made here in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by singlesline
I rotate every 10k, usually do it myself, they require proof of it being done at a shop every 5k. I have a shop willing to fudge it but no, I'm not willing to bring them down to the minimum when they're already marginal traction and it's (finally) going to snow next weekend.
Where did you buy them ? IF it's a decent tire shop they might work with you after looking at them as long as they're not worn funny from failing suspension parts.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravitylover
Just got back from a little beach vacation and no real complaints
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I will say that I should have waited for a van with the factory tow hitch (the U-Haul hitch is pretty low) and that the factory rack is mounted too far back. Neither are big surprises. I still might invest in a suspension upgrade if I find some extra money before I run the miles up too high.
Those expansion joints must have been gnarly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownski
That van is *well* loaded! [emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownski
Previous two gens, at least, of Sienna were well known for low aftermarket hitch mounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brownski
Honestly, it rode pretty smooth. I was expecting worse than what I got
I just put a hitch on a Metris mini-van. After a little research it seemed to be the consensus that all the common aftermarket hitches give up significant ground clearance.
Underneath the back of the van, the OEM hitch threads around the spare tire, bolts into existing holes in the frame rails, and requires the rear bumper to be removed and cut for it the hitch to seat properly.
Hitch was around 3 times the price of normal aftermarket, but when you get under there and see the clearance and difference in height makes sense that it's ncessary.
All of the hitch frame ends up above the spare, so ground clearance goes unchanged.
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Feel free to head over there. We're discussing mini vans.Quote:
Originally Posted by heckacali
Anyone done any sort of rear suspension upgrades on a gen 4 (hybrid) sienna? Options seem very limited. Ours definitely rides low in the back when loaded up. I'd like airbags in there, but I'm not finding any that fit the newer siennas. Debating just putting some stiffer springs in there.
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What about some helper bags or springs? I’ve seen SumoSpring, AirLift, and Firestone mentioned before. Timbren maybe? The Sienna forums will have better details on the best brand and setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by toast2266
I put the Firestone bags in my Caravan. They definitely do the job but they make things a little bouncy with a light or no load. You can't let the air down too low or things start moving and break so you can't totally eliminate the bounce.
I guess I need to research more. I looked and super springs doesn’t list anything for the latest generation Sienna. If anybody knows of something, I’d love to hear about it. I’m more interested in stiffening and increasing load than I am in a higher stanceQuote:
Originally Posted by bagtagley