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From what I remember, Jerry was also holed up in his closet high on heroin 24/7 before his alcohol detox.
The way I remember it is he was basically high and drunk for months before entering rehab and docs couldn’t reverse it.
The music was long gone before then.
Am I remembering it wrong?
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Short answer is the extreme case MAY die if they do try to detox, but they'll definitely die if they don't try to detox.
The fat man cooks rocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
From what I have read/heard, he barely ever drank alcohol. Maybe at the end?Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
Pretty sure Jer was in rehab for heroin
Got a call last week from an old friend, his older brother got into the heron, went to sleep didn't wake up.
Dude was hardcore crack head for decades. Good dude but could not shake the heavy stuff. Incredible athlete.
yo
I got a text from JayPowHound last week - the guy that started this thread
he said he logged out of his account and now he can’t log back in
I asked a couple Mags to ask Danno to help him get back in - Danno is a moderator I guess but I don’t think he’s very active - I dunno
anyway
is there anyone here that can help JayPowHound get signed in again?
^^^ PM guyonboffalo?
Going to have to go the Iceman route. BurkeCrustHound
If he logged out but doesn’t have access to the email he set up his account with anymore it’s time for Plan B.
They got the iceman ID working again for a minute but then it went away again, I gave up at that point.
Emergency contraception will fix this??? I mean it's already fucked, so there's that.Quote:
Originally Posted by ötzi
How's things w the brother? Hoping for the best for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ötzi
Jer had also been a diabetic coma for a week and had to re-learn to play guitar. Then he got fat as shit and smoked cigs like they were going out of style and ate nothing but ice cream for the last few years. I am sure the heroin didn't help but I'm also not sure that it is entirely clear that he died from withdrawal or whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
Hope you and your bro are OK, ice.
We got him admitted to the hospital today so it's under control for a few days but after that I guess we'll see. Going to find someplace he can go after but I guess it's up to him. Appreciate the good thoughts fellas.Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
Def up to him. Rehab is like 30 grand, absolutely pissing money away if he's not into it.
Can't bullshit a bullshitter, getting him to talk w another drunk(who has years of sobriety) is the key. Hope it all works out.
I think that would make me go back to drinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
Drink up Jonny, let us know that works out for you:)
I lost a friend to detox. He had completed a program about 6 months previous and I think his family was ashamed that he relapsed. No one really looked for another program. A friend who’s a mental health professional told me that on average an addict goes through recovery 5 times before it sticks. Stay with the process.
I’d rather just die.
Alcoholism is like the one disease you can have where it’s acceptable for everyone to hate you for having it.
Shame.
Can’t tell people you’re sick. Don’t ever do that. They’ll get angry.
Don’t tell them that you’re two people. Just hide it.
This is Japan. It’s different here.
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Obesity is turning out to be more like alcoholism as the experts get deeper in to the causes and genetics surrounding it. Quite a bit of fat shaming on this forum..Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
You can’t really hide obesityQuote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
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Which makes it even worse for the folks suffering from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
Have you been watching Kelly Clarkson's talk show?
Some people drink at something, some eat at something, some run endless miles at something, etc. Unresolved shit can manifest in many ways in how we distract and escape from it. It is often more scary in our heads than in reality. I felt the shame and guilt over it, until I was too sick and tired to fight it anymore. Come to find out, I am not the only one that has happened to. Who knew? Still fairly solitary in this world, but I have a tribe. And we can laugh at a lot of the shit that used to just bring feelings of shame.Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
Sad watching others suffer knowing they have to want and find it themselves. It was really hard until it wasn’t.
I found my own way, with quite a bit of trouble, over a mountain of shit to get to where I am, my bro can't bs me. He's pushed everyone away for a long time but now that I had to get involved, I'm involved.
Who is Kelly Clarkson?Quote:
Originally Posted by irul&ublo
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jeremy’s daughter…
I'm so glad that yesterday when I was drunk and I posted that that you managed to turn the tables into a discussion about obesity instead of calling me out on my BS, which was a cry I was hoping to hear answered.
I wasn't even "that" drunk, just a few drinks in. But it was enough for my second personality to voice itself. And you all didn't even blink. Almost intentionally. Because if you had, I'd have been clamoring on to your "support."
Thanks for that. That was the subtle, "You need to take care of yourself." nudge that I wanted to hear. (The TRGs are strong with this group.)
I'm better today. Not wanting to die, anyway.
*Edit
Maybe the death of my wife's colleague, a young 18yo boy... a young boy who called my wife his work-mom... is forcing me to face reality a bit. Nothing worse than holding your wife's sobbing world in your arms. Even being the pillow is draining.
God Speed, young man.
Homie wrapped himself around a telephone pole. Hours ago.
Fuck. Barely old enough to shave. Dog speed to the homie. The best to your wife.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
It's more than the mental part. The genetic, hereditary, and chemical reactions in the brain are the same too..Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiBall
https://www.obesityaction.org/resour...and%20fat%20do.
The truth is that you have to be ready to do ANYTHING to not die.. beyond actually realizing dying fucks over everyone who cares about you, present company included.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
I recommend finding a meeting. It's the only way I know of that works for all the other people I know in recovery. There are likely mags in your area who can help you get to one.
I lost one of my own children. I know plenty about sorrow. Most of us have experienced unspeakable tragedy at some point or another but find a way not to drink over it when it happens. Good luck and hope you decide to make the change.
Not sure where you have been in the last 20 years. She started into her career as the First season winner of American Idol, Singing career with more than 10 albums out now (she has done some Concert touring and now a regular act in Las Vegas) and now also TV star with a seat as a Judge on The Voice, has as stated her own daytime talk show.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
American what?Quote:
Originally Posted by RShea
The phrase that really helped me over the years has been:Quote:
Originally Posted by SumJongGuy
“There is absolutely no situation that a drink couldn’t make worse”.
It is profoundly true.
I’ve been living life, not watching TV, don’t listen to commercial radio or follow any social media other than TGR. Maybe I’m missing out?Quote:
Originally Posted by RShea
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^^^Same here. No TV, TGR is only social media. Only radio station I listen to is KJIV (jiveradio.org)
Or the phrase my dad usedQuote:
Originally Posted by rideit
“you won’t find the answer to your problems in the bottom of a bottle”
The TRG is the only social you need, look how well adjusted I am;)!
Drinking sucks. Thank fucking God I'm not dealing w that shit anymore.
NoQuote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
It's a good look for you.. seriously!Quote:
Originally Posted by byates1
You know, once you reach a certain age nobody else in your crowd gives a fuck if you're drinking or not when out hanging out and doing stuff. Well, most people don't.... unless...Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
It's way harder to chill out and around with your friends late teens to mid 20s when they're all in party mode. I will say.. One thing that helped me was remembering how sad and pathetic I thought it was to see some dude/lady in their 40s+ totally wasted in public. Realizing that I was that guy is a lot of what made me conclude it really was time for me to stop.