They've gotten better about not posting it on the homepage before you can get to the replay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
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They've gotten better about not posting it on the homepage before you can get to the replay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
Are these replayed on Redbull TV?
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On the FWT website.
You can skip straight to each run and stuff. Have to say, it's done very well. Kudos to them...
Their player sucks balls so I left their page and went to YT to watch the replay. Oops. Yeah don't do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by powdork
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It's been a very windy early season. I've skied the couloir Navarro dropped in December with way better coverage. Some parts of the mountains are loaded, with lifts being dug out, but some aspects, especially northwest, have been absolutely hammered. Besides, there really is no reason for the event to take place in the middle of January, it could easily be February and still have time for the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by subtle plague
Here is a pic, december 6 or 9 a couple seasons ago. You can see in the background actual snowlevels were still pretty low, but the couloirs on the north face all went, and none of them went today.
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Here is Navarro himself scoping his line (yes the same entry he tried today) december 21st 2019
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My brother dropping the double where Navarro crashed (same day)
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And here I was 3pm January 26th? 2020. Crashed the cliff at the end of the couloir and tore my ligaments. This couloir wasn't even in yet today. All about that wind...
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Oh and yes, all of this terrain is accessible from the lift. Just a traverse.
Agreed on that except for the fact that they then scored Gorak's backflip run higher than Jack Nichols' lincoln loop run which should have been the other way around IMO - Nichols' trick into that little pocket above more rock/cliff was way more unique, interesting and technical than another big backflip sender into a clean run out. One of my favourite moments from the comp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirene
Overall I really enjoyed seeing a new venue. It's a lot more exciting when it's not just slight variations on lines and zones we've seen before in previous years. The level of skiing in such shitty conditions blew my mind, as usual.
Max Palm given a season wildcard after his performance today
Really great stuff Pirene, glad to have your perspective. I enjoyed the comp, biggest surprise to me was Mael's run being scored a 66. Guess they really didn't like the backslap, but I thought that was about as clean as you could land a 50+ footer to hardpack.
That double backie into the 360 was nuts. Props to the kid.
A bit harder to compare since the lines were different. The swedes had exactly the same run but exchanging a backflip for a flat 3. I loved Nichols' Lincoln, but his line was otherwise low risk with just a couple small hits. Gorak had a medium cliff with a tricky set up and came into the flip with speed into a questionable takeoff vs Nichols on a smooth windlip. His landing was way harder to pull off though. At the end of the day it's about ranking the riders. I think both Erikson and Gorak were slightly overscored, but positions 4-11 were tough to judge. I liked Chabloz, Rainer and Pollard and thought the Turdell/Erikson/Slemet line was a bit too obvious. Would have loved to see it life, would not have liked to judge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spooky
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by thefrush
With current scoring cards it's impossible to win off one big hit if you don't stomp it clean. As big as it is, it's just one feature with a heavy backslap deduction. Half the size stomped clean is worth just as much. I think Navarro's line wouldn't have cracked top 3 for the same reason, no way you're stomping that with no control issues, and the risk was just too high. They get docked for doing stupid things, and jumping off a building to flat is just not very smart line choice. Respect the send though. :redface:
Yeah it's hard to argue against that. I rewatched those two runs after I posted and Nichols' was definitely a lot tamer until his final section. I guess the unique line choices and trick combos like that one just really stand out to me when the field is so stacked and so strong. So often there are 6-8 runs in the middle of the rankings that are just a toss up and come down to such finer margins and personal preferences. And agreed, I don't envy the judges - impossible job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirene
Same - really interesting to see some POV shots in better snow conditions. Gnarly zone.Quote:
Originally Posted by thefrush
BAnd yeah, could have been scored higher but backslaps have been penalized hard for a good few years now which always make big cliff line choices like that a risk when it comes to the judging. Sick to see him hit a different zone to the rest though. Must have been so scary trying to line up that take off.
Is the 'live' follow drone thing new? That is brilliant and needs to be in several sports I occasionally watch...
So: who gets the sickbird belt buckle?
Pretty much either Mael or Aymar right?
Moga’s air was pretty close in size to Mael’s. Personally I thought it was the best run, those two turns on the spine were super impressive, and he mixed big air with jibs and smooth fast skiing. I understand that the judges wanted to give extra credit for the first double backflip though. Gorak and Turdell were over scored imo.
Been a pretty casual fwt fan but that ski men’s was super exciting to watch. I’m all in now.
No way Aymar gets it. Even in the old school USA days you had to actually have a shot at your line/not just get super lucky you didn’t break yourself to get the sick bird.Quote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
An award for crashing? What's next ? Participation awards for everyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
they already do get points for participation. even the no score athletes still got points. What I don't understand is why Jessica Hotter got more points (1340) for her no score than Jackie Pollard (1070). Same thing in the mens too.Quote:
Originally Posted by subtle plague
What a way to open the season! That double was completely bananas. Angled takeoff with a gap/transfer to the landing, sooo technical.
Moga would be my pick - a similarly huge but less obvious air than Mael’s plus the high speed ski in to it was wild. Incredibly impressive.
Super Sick comp, honestly one of the best i've watched in years. Mostly due to the fact that there were so many different styles and lines. Some venue's get tiring when the top 10 runs are all basically the same features/tricks all the way. Even though it is generally a loose/sketchy line its nice to see Navaro just go for the full big mountain scare fest any chance he gets haha, definitely the ride I'm most excited to watch in each comp haha. Spain looks super fun to visit, smash some pow/corn/ice then siesta in the sun or go pull on some rock after.
Ok so who?Quote:
Originally Posted by kathleenturneroverdrive
Super impressive skiing by some very young skiers in this contest! I remember when pro skiers really started to shine when they reached their late 20s or sometimes mid-30s after years of experience shooting in big mountains. I guess that doesn't matter anymore thanks to great skis and freeriding clubs and who knows what else.
Has to be Moga. Huge air, and he was charging.Quote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
Yes, Moga for sure.
I think Moga deserved the win and sickbird.
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Seriously charging. Dude meant business.Quote:
Originally Posted by kootenayskier
I’d go Moga too.Quote:
Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy
Non-sick bird related, but for me, Craig Murray’s flat 3 > the double backie from purely a style POV. But it’s also hard to wrap my head around a double backflip like that. Sick comp all the way around.
IMVHO, Palm deserved the win. First DB in the history of FWT, which as noted was done in an especially technical fashion and stomped perfectly, and the rest of the run was nothing to sneeze at. That deserved to be recognized.
Ozone is looking great!! Stoked to see a fat base up here!
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Totally agree. No arguments from me when you look at all thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
Murray's flat 3, Nichols' Lincoln loop, Moga's yuuuge send and Palm's double backie. All had me laughing in WTF disbelief.
Moga is a sick, sick man.
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oh man it's hard to watch this footage, why can't they park a drone straight out across from the face and show us the whole damn line from a proper angle? the over the head super close up footage is fine for replay, but it really really sucks if it's all you've got. you can't see what they're skiing over, you can't see where they're going, etc..
Plastered. Damn. TBH always felt like Ozone was a bit of a small face too. It's a nice show but very often it's one hit wonders. I remember one time they did it off the back, that was a nice face. Bit short too. Can't seem to find anything in the vicinity of the resort that offers steeps, features and vertical all at the same time. Any help?Quote:
Originally Posted by SkiLyft
Completely agree. The straight on view of the venue/line gives the viewer a better perspective of the whole line. The close in drone shots don’t give any perspective. Salomon Blank collective film was almost unwatchable in parts due to drone footage. I think part of the issue is that the drone needs to be close to the surface, but I have no experience with dronesQuote:
Originally Posted by grapedrink
I liked the drone shots compared to past years but I agree. The wider shots give context that's important, I had a hard time placing the runs on the face. Seeing a bigger view would have been nice in the replay at least, and they could still use the drone shots to highlight bits.
Agreed.
It would be cool if the mission of the drone work would be more like finding a really good view of the venue, then hover/hold and shoot from there.
Like, rather than trying to use the movement of the drone as a gimmick, use it to achieve static camera angles you can’t get from land.
Seems they are going for a natural selection vibe with the drone shots. I agree, better angles that show the difficulty of the line.
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