I know first year had two sheets, CO rep said it was a misprint and last couple of years have been single sheet to make it less demanding, and now back to 2 sheets. Was I duped? Can anyone in the know confirm this?
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I know first year had two sheets, CO rep said it was a misprint and last couple of years have been single sheet to make it less demanding, and now back to 2 sheets. Was I duped? Can anyone in the know confirm this?
I have a blister membership
Enforcer 115 Free/Pro has always had 2 sheets of metal and still does. In 2020, the carbon infused fibreglass and true tip(wood core instead of heavier plastic spacer in the tip to reduce swing weight) that the new 104 featured was also added in both the 110 Free and 115 Free. Later added on the 94 and 100 Enforcers too.
The 20 and newer Enforcer 110 went up a bit in weight(100-150gr) vs previous years with the change but flex remained the same. The Enforcer 115 is still around 2300gr with similar flex to the Pro but should feel a bit more lively with lighter swing weight.
Canadian places with 22 Enforcer 115 for $629.99 CAN right now.
look up the enforcer 115. It says unchanged for the last 6 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by ski whore
I would not place overly much emphasis on Blister claiming something being the same - sameish, sure - identical besides graphics, not so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoVT Joey
Blister claimed the same for for instance kartel116 turned jeff116. This was in spite of the ski seeing minor (sidecut tweaks, change from 22oz to 19oz glass) - and some not so minor (new layup) - tweaks every year before becoming the j118. Blister still stated that it was the same every year sans change in graphics. It was not. Radically different, also no - but the changes add up to a ski that is different.
Sure, the big brands do not do so many small tweaks as the smaller brands, but re the poster above - there are still some tweaks and updates being made from year to year.
My similarly skilled wife skied my 177 K108 for a day and had zero problems and even liked them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey
This year I bought her a secret 102 in a 172. Looks like a little more camber than the katana but similar rocker lines... I'm optimistic she will like them, and will do a thorough detune.
I prefer my K108 at +1 but I have demo bindings on them. Plan to do the same for the wife so a maybe a little less "drive the shins"... Because that is definitely NOT how she skis.
I think this line from volkl is more approachable than many people think, and don't be affraid to mount a little forward.
I also have blaze 106 and I liked them at +1.5 to +2 cm.
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A bunch of dudes talking about woman's skis...too bad more woman aren't here to tell us their thoughts on the guys version of the Santa Ana 88.
When I read actual woman talk about the SA104 they don't seem as universally pleased as the men do with our version. It rattles me. What is different?
Based on that, despite my love for the E104, my wife gets Rallybird 102's this year. She needs the loose tail and no metal. The only metal ski she loves is the old version Black Pearl 78. The BP 88 is not her friend.
We mounted a pair of SA 88's for the kids college friend that is a girl last winter. Very intermediate skier on the light side and she loved them, swiveled them as needed, and the metal gave her no problems. Hopefully she will learn to bend them someday.
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^^^ ok replace "secret" with "mantra" in my above post if it makes you feel better... Because they are the same ski.
And I was also talking about how my wife skied my MENS Katana, so....
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The Santa Ana and Enforcers used to both have 2 sheets of metal which was sometimes an issue for lighter women skiers. From 21 onwards, all SA widths now have just one tailored sheet of metal instead of the two full sheets reducing weight and making them a bit more forgiving. They also added the True Tip and Carbon chassis like all the Enforcers received.
That single sheet is even more tailored in the wider widths(104/110) making an even more accessible ski vs the older versions. “Terrain specific metal” they call it.
They are using a similar single metal sheet in the new Unleashed 98/98W and Unleashed 108.
More powerful female skiers might now choose the Enforcer version instead to get the extra weight and torsional stiffness if the Enforcer lengths work.
I'm just lamenting the lack of female voices here. Not being critical of people posting the information they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shorty_J
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I've demoed the Rustler 9, M6, and E94. I also thought the Rustler was kind of a meh ski, didn't excel at anything but no notable faults either. E94 is the easiest ski of the 3 (none of them are demanding), easiest to maneuver and most forgiving while also being capable of going pretty fast. The M6 is stiffer and has a higher speed limit but the E94 would be a better ski for someone who doesn't typically ski aggressively.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey
Rustler 9 is not the Blizzard ski to compare with the M6 and Enforcer 94 - should have skied the Bonafide 97 at the same time. R9 is more easy-going, does everything pretty damn well, but doesn't rail like a flat-tailed carver - I use it to ski with the family and it's great.Quote:
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Ok fair enough... That's not the way I interpreted that so thanks for clarifying.Quote:
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Have tried chatting with my wife about gear. It’s pretty clear. She doesn’t care about gear. Unless she doesn’t like it. Then I hear.
She’s a Kootenay born and raised girl. Taught skiing at Kimberley. Went to school in Colorada, taught skiing in Europe...she can really ski. She’s fast. Most of my buddies can’t keep up with her for full day. She will ski stuff that scares the shit out of me.
Her bsl is only 11 mm less than mine, so we can bump an STH heel forward for her. In the last few year's she's skied my: 179cm E104s, 180cm J Metals, 177cm (~179cm) M102s, 176cm 4FRNT MSP 99s, 181cm Icelantic Nomads, 180cm Elan Ripstick 96 Blacks, 184cm 4FRNT Ravens and 181cm 4FRNT InThaynes. She said all those skis were pretty easy to ski.
She’s 5’6”, 127lbs. She’s currently got a 172cm Santa Ana 104, a 175cm Mindbender 106C and a 177cm Icelantic Maiden. I’m thinking the 172cm Enforcer 88 for her (not a Santa Ana 88). Anyone seen any deals on a 172cm E88? I haven’t. Thx
EDIT - or I just buy myself a 179cm E94 and let her use the 179cm E88s? She could handle the length I’m sure.
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^ If you're in the Kootenays let her take my wife skiing and maybe it'll rub off hahah. I'm leaning towards the Enforcer 88 as well, maybe the 94.
Lot's of great info here. I understand the lack of female voices, it's kind of an echo chamber in that sense. But much like kc_7777s girl, mine doesn't give a shit about gear........unless she hates it.
Didn’t think this day would ever come….but I sold my 179cm E104s.
Bought them from Fanatykco a few summers ago on sale for $469CDN. Sold them flat locally for $350CDN.
Wanted a slightly longer ski. But so glad I owned these and will likely pick up another pair one day (and mount at +1cm vs +2cm).
I skied these a ton. And sold them for ~70% of their t"taxes in" cost. Approx $3-4/ski day? Which only is possible because Nordica’s build quality is great, and these skis still looked mint.
Now have the 180cm Nordica Unleashed 108 on my radar …. though I’m likely covered in that size with my 183cm Season Nexus and 180cm Revolt 104.
Good thing I bought the Enforcer 88, so I can still care about this thread. Leaning to a 172cm E88 for my wife too.
Thx for the memories…
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It's funny how similar the first year graphics look compared to the current model. Really wished I could have tried an Unleashed 108 in the 186. Not sure it could de-throne the MFree108, but that single sheet of metal and rocker design is intriguing.
Nice! I'm still leaning on 88s for the wife and maybe to fill a skinny ski spot in my quiver. But i'll demo them first this time around. Kinda want to try the MB89ti for her, and the MFree 90?
I've found the MB 89Ti for cheap ($380 CDN)....in a 170cm (really a 171cm), but the mount is -10cm. M-Free 90 is -12cm (but Blister skied those at +4cm). I know she likes -7 to - 8cm (and the E88s are -8cm). I think I'll ski my E88s, and then try to grab her some 2023s in the sales? She does not turn over skis like I do....and I think a pair of 172cm E88s would last her forever. So the extra up-front price is worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey
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you find the rocker on the 108 intriguing? I was interested to see it and when I got my hands on a pair noticed very little tip rocker and more tail rocker than tip rocker. Doesn't make much sense to me, I'll stay E104, E110, E115Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
That’s kinda my point. It doesn’t seem to be how I’d want a ski to be designed but all the reviews and first hand accounts are that it is a great off piste ski that also handles groomers. Kinda the opposite of the Enforcer 104 yet more playful and energetic than the Enforcer 110. We will see if I get the chance to try them out this winter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ski whore
I thought the exact same about the Season Aero. The Aero also has very little tip and tail rocker. Camber to both ends. Yet still it skis kind of loose when you want. But grippy. I like it. Interested to see how the Unleashed skis with a similar profile.
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I was in Vancouver BC this weekend. The extremely favorable exchange rate and “spirit of KC” overcame me and a pair of 2022 186 Enforcer 100’s followed me home across the border. Weird how that happened.
Isn't it funny how things like that just happens!?! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
Thanks for leaving some of those high value greenbacks up here in Van. Enjoy the Enforcer 100s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
I’m close to mounting my 179cm Enforcer 88’s….still shocked I own a ski that skinny. They’re gonna be fast!
Also just picked up a pair of 2023 172cm Enforcer 88s for my wife from Snowcountry.eu. Will look good with red/black Griffons. And means she won’t steal my 179s.
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Question for you Enforcer gurus… can the 191 E110 charge harder than the 191 E104? I LOVE the E104 in every situation except I’m able to find the speed limit pretty easily. It can get a little twitchy on me when I’m absolutely hauling and I’d like to replace it with something that has a higher top-end. If the E110 (or even the E115) fit that description, I might pull the trigger. Also looking at the 192 M-Free 108 as a possible replacement…
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I’ll take the bait since I have owned every ski you mentioned in the Big Boy lengths. [emoji6]Quote:
Originally Posted by BlazersTimbers503
The 191 E104 is a great all around ski and it has a fairly high speed limit, but as you point out, a big, strong skier can find it. The 191 E110 is a bit more damp and obviously a better powder ski, but it has a similar speed limit, IMO. The E115 is a heavier stiffer ski and can be pushed harder than the other two, but much is more soft snow specific. I wish Nordica would make the E110 with the slightly bigger turn radius and flex of the E115. That ski would RULE!
I sold my 191 E110 since I got a pair of 192 MFree 108’s and they are just more fun than the Enforcers. They are looser in deep snow and just more dynamic in tight spaces. I’m not 100% sure that the MFree charges hard, though.
I’d recommend a Volkl Katana K108 in the 191. Heck the Katana in a 184 has a significantly higher top end versus the E104. The E104 might have a heavy wood core and a metal laminate construction, but it’s still an Enforcer. You trade the top end stability for versatility.
Do you feel more confident charging on the MF108 compared to the E104/110? Or about the same? I’d still love to have the playfulness and the maneuverability at slower speeds so I’m afraid to pull the trigger on Katanas. I don’t see the word “playful” being used to describe those beasts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
2016 Blizzard Brahma w/ Griffons - 187
2017 Moment Bibby Pro w/ STH2 16s - 190
2019 Nordica Enforcer 104 Free w/ STH2 16s - 190
2019 Line Sick Day 104 w/ Shifts - 186
Katanas are NOT playful. That’s fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlazersTimbers503
The 192 MFREE 108 is about is close to the “playful charger” with the bias toward playful that I can think of. The 192 is not a “soft” flexing ski. It doesn’t have metal and it has a good amount of camber, but it can be pushed very, very hard. I think it is more composed than the E104 at speed. The E110 is more damp, can be skied in deep snow in a very “loose” style, but the MFREE is looser in the tail and way more fun. The E110 is damp and torsionally stiff, but just not as stable as other skis with two sheets of metal. As I said earlier, that’s kind of an Enforcer trait.
Mind you, I have a ton of skis. I ski the MFREE when it’s soft and I’m skiing in technical terrain or trees. I don’t ski them in low tide conditions. You can, it’s just not their sweet spot, IMO.
Anybody holding 104 Frees in 186 they’re looking to pass on? I’m over my 188 Corvus and their tip dive and demanding performance. I want something a little easier to move around and a little better on lower tide conditions.
Not selling mine. But they definitely fill the roll you just described. Fun ski for 80% of INW conditionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Falcon3
Sweet, thanks! I’m down to the Deathwish 104 or the Enforcer 104 and the Enforcer seems so much easier to find and a little better at being a jack of all trades.Quote:
Originally Posted by bourbonisgood
Had my first day on the Nordica Enforcer 88s.
Impressive ski.
I’m on the 2022 179cm (5’7”, 170 lbs) E88 mounted at +1cm (with raw Pivot 15s). My wife (5’6”, 125 lbs, who rips and said my 177cm M102 was "easy") is on 2023 172cm E88 (with Griffons). She’s mounted at +0.5cm.
Will likely post more on this ski, when I’ve had a few more days on them. Here’s my initial thoughts….
Note this was my 1st day on a sub 90 mm ski in 20 years?
Whistler conditions were no-new snow, with re-frozen crap up in the high alpine. I think it got above 0C up high and then re-froze solid so we stayed lower. There was pretty good snow lower down eg, we skied onto Garby chair all day long. No lines all day. Ptarmigan was the money run….. closed, but partially groomed with 2-3" of man-made pow on it, and the snow guns running all day, and even some soft bumps. We had Ptarmigan to ourselves all day.
PS the new 6-pack Red chair was running and no lines there either.
The E88 skis don’t care if you’re on ice. Or shit snow. Or on decent groomers. Or in bumps. They don’t care cause they can absolutely rip everything. Quick, stable, energetic. Short turns and long turns both worked. Rock solid in a carve, feels great when on edge, yet you can still break the tails free and slide em if you need to. Stupid speeds were achieved regularly and easily. Pretty sure I was scaring people as I could pick a line, and just go through crowds of tourists at mach speeds, as these skis inspire confidence because of their excellent grip and turning ability on ice or hard snow. Holy shit it was a fun day.
The +1cm mount (-7cm) felt right and really good (.....I have a short bsl), as tails still able to release enough at +1cm. Pretty frickin' awesome ski overall. 9.5/10 A+
My wife really liked hers too (she also has a 172cm Santa Ana 104, a 175cm K2 Mindbender 106C and a 177cm Icelantic Maiden 111). We were both instantly comfortable on the E88s from the 1st turn. Might be the only ski I will need under 105mm?
E88 family quiver pic (her 2023s on the left, my 2022s on the right):
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Hell yes!
I spend more time on my 88 Brahma than any other ski in my quiver. A function of where I live sure, but also use them when I travel.
Thanks for the review of the E88.
Picked up friends SA88 from the tuning shop today. Wish I could ski them but way too small.
I’d love your insight on something if you’d be so kind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
I’m a minimalist and really want to just dial in a 2 ski PNW resort quiver.
My powder and heavy chop ski is dialed in with 191 Billy Goats so super happy about that.
Im looking for my all mountain everything else ski. Right now I’m using the 186 Enforcer 100 to fill this role. I have them mounted on the line with 335 bsl, I’m an aggressive fall line charger type skier, when I hit mild chop I love the stiffness of the Enforcer but I feel the need to lighten up my forward pressure a tad due to not enough ski in front. I don’t like that.
In your professional opinion would you suggest.
1. Get the Enforcer 100 in 191, maybe mount a 1-2 centimeters back?
2. Enforcer 104 in 191.
3. Join the Carrara Marble club and get some MFree 108’s in a 191?
I don’t really care about groomer performance, Alpental is my home mountain.
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Putting the wife on these for Tuesday. Hopefully she feels the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by kc_7777
No 88s up here. Ran 186 104 Frees for the first time. Damp ski, but too short for me. I always forget how god damn heavy demo bindings are.
Really want to get on the 94/88 in the next few weeks, need to find someone in fernie for demos
I much prefer the 191 104 Free to the 186. Just a little more everything and a slightly larger radius to boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey
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Are the 191s ever too much ski? I'm 5'10, 190 and was gravitating towards the 186. Mostly so they're a bit more maneuverable in tight spacesQuote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
At your size and weight, you could ski either length. It really depends on the terrain you frequent. Obviously the 186 is a tad easier in tight spaces. When in doubt, err on the side of shorter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ApexSkua
The reality is that the Enforcer 104 Free is a very well-rounded ski that favors versatility and an approachable nature at the expense of top end stability. Moving to the 191 got me a little closer to that desired top end, but the minute the snow gets beat up, the “chink in the armor” of that ski shows up. On nice groomers or anything soft, they are an effortless dream.
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Okay so it's not just me then. I was honestly expecting it to basically blast through everything and anything but it really didn't agree with end of the day runs. The hunt continues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man