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Update on the new Spur. Remounted mine from -2 to the line. Going -2 was definitely no bueno. Now the skis feel much better balanced and have better tail support. Incredible fun to ski in powder but still lower speed limit than the old Spurs in anything hard and on the piste.
I'm not exactly sure if the time of skis > 120 mm waist just didn't expire with the snowpack of the recent years here in the Alps.
True. The last two seasons I havent ever whished I had something in that range.Quote:
Originally Posted by roQer
Sadly.
Where in the Alps are you based?
Arlberg/Austria
Anyone know what the new-old bodacious will be going for next year?
Was planning on just picking up dead stock of the old OG bodacious but had a conversation with Arne's father the other day that I kind of want to pick up some of the new ones. Although I might still just buy dead stock and make a donation separately.
There is some info on the new Bode from GregL in another thread. According to him the tip rocker is 1 cm lower and the tail rocker .5 cm higher than in the 14/15 green-yellow version.Quote:
Originally Posted by straightlineorbust
Whatever this means for the characteristics on snow.
Hmm interesting, I'm currently on the red-yellow 2013/2014 which I believe is the exact same as the green/yellow version. I can't see less tip rocker on this ski as a good thing, but more on the rear could make sense I'll have to find what GregL said about them because they're pretty much perfect as they are right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by roQer
Pretty much my thoughts. .5 cm more tail rocker could make some sense but the forebody is just perfect as it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by straightlineorbust
Not sure I like the flatter tip, as it makes an already "unfloaty" ski even less so, so the 2018 version definitely goes through stuff rather than over it. On the other hand, the slightly increased tail rocker is nice in tight spaces and bumps. I don't have a 13/14 around to compare, but I thought it had a totally flat tail?
Yahh, it's pretty much a flat tail, they say it has tail rocker but it's at most a centimeter across the whole tail.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregL
And interesting, I feel like the 13/14 actually is pretty rad because it does tend to ride over crud instead of through it. Well, it rides through it when you're going slow and then as soon as you have some speed you're able to stay on top.
Anyone ski on the old bodacious, new "old" bodacious, and the rustler 11 as to give them a comparison.
Trying to figure out what to use as my comp ski next year. Thing I love about the 13/14 Bodacious I'm on is as long as your feet are beneath you, you can basically ride out anything.
Edit: Actually found a picture of the rocker profile, the tail is basically flat with a touch of rocker. Attachment 203934
I demoed them last weekend from Granite Chief at Squaw (they were awesome). I don't remember exact numbers, but they were somewhere in this ballpark based on what the Granite Chief employee said I could buy them for:Quote:
Originally Posted by straightlineorbust
- $900+ "retail" (forget the actual number)
- about $695 if I bought them then and there at a 15% demo day discount from their store price. He said their normal store price is always below retail.
- so about an $800 non-sale store price
Do you know what the 188 Rustler 11 weighs?Quote:
Originally Posted by wasatchback
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What ski is this?
Throwback graphics on new/old bodaciousQuote:
Originally Posted by nyskirat
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Talked to the blizzard rep at snowbird today, to settle the debate about whether the new old bodacious is really the same as the old one.
They just pulled out the old molds, and did the same construction. So good news for people looking for burliness
So sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by nyskirat
I raced a couple pairs of Thermo V20s BITD.
Are the retro graphics available to the public? I wasn't going to get a pair, but if I can get a sweet looking pair...
Damn, I'd have to get pair if those. Raced on V20 Thermo SL and RS back then, though preferred the RS pretty much everywhere.
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by nyskirat
But I'd rather like to have the Bode in the design of the old Firebird from the Seventies, the racing ski of my dad:
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Even more killer!
God damn I need that ski. The old school V20 Thermo SL put me on varsity Freshman year... flipping between #1 & #2 on the team all season. I killed it on that ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by nyskirat
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2039 and 2041 grams on my scaleQuote:
Originally Posted by mda13c
While we weighed them at 2040g/ski - 4kg/pair they 'feel' lighter than that in your hand due to low swing weight. While 2000g sounds pretty heavy on paper I still see myself throwing kingpin's on these as my side country ski for places like whistler where you often find yourself doing some shorter tours but still end up skiing some resort laps on those days too. I would have gone 180 for a dedicated touring ski. The kingpin has impressed me through demos with its ability to edge wider skis and handle choppy conditions. Still too heavy and bulky for any dedicated touring, but so are most skis over 110mm, IMO. Marker knows I still want one with steel parts and a set of 16 springs in the back.
188 is what I demo'ed and found it to be an overall improvement from my Bodacious in everything but steep, deep and open runs. I felt much more confident skiing into thrashed areas at speed on them then I ever did on my Bodacious. The tips are light and quick which makes up for having minimal taper (generally I like tapered tips on anything 115ish or wider). Like the most traditional blizzards the Rustler 11 really shines when the tail follows the tip, especially in soft snow. It doesn't slarve as well as the gunsmoke did but feels more comfortable in big open turns to me. For the most part I like what I see with skis like this coming from Blizzard (and Enforcer Pro from Nordica, or QST 118 from Salomon) where they are making more playful and manageable versions of their bread and butter while allowing the smaller, newer companies like Armada, Line, 4FRNT, and ON3P to go after more playful or surfy ski designs. The Euro companies' roots are still in racing and it shows in their entire ski line, from carvers to powder skis. The wider euro skis still edge exceptionally well and ski through powder with more traditional styles, while the American companies take a different approach having grown up from twintips and oftpiste skiing. Not a knock on either source but creates a more diverse and better set of ski options for the consumers.
Does the Rustler 10 come in 188?
^^^I had these ones tooQuote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
Yes. 188cm, 104mm waist, 19m turn radius.Quote:
Originally Posted by aevergreene
Has anyone had a spin on the new Brahma Ca?
Meh with the turn radii on Rustlers. Maybe it doesn't matter. Who the fuck knows...Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
FWIW skied the og spurs in fresh snow and cut up and loved it. i am not much of a power skier. Why would anyone soften it?
I assume the Spur is getting softer for pure powder, while they reintroduce the OG Bodacious for skiers who see a lot of crud and mank
Making 150 pairs of Bodes is hardly filling a market niche. It's just a one-off funfest.Quote:
Originally Posted by aevergreene
I was skeptical of the radius on the Rustler 10 (and my 180s are a childlike 17.5), but so far I've been super happy with them; even in shit snow.
No, they're not crud leveling steamrollers, but if you expect anything this light to do that you've got bigger problems.
In a perfect world they'd blow out the waist to get the radius up to about 23, but life is a compromise
I did not know only 150 pairs of the Bodacious. What will be their stiffer big mountain/powder offering this year. The rustler 11 takes over?
I too was skeptical at first but the 188's ski pretty long for a 21m turn radius. Honestly almost as comfortable in long radius turns as my Cochise (29m) and more comfortable than my Kartels (23?)Quote:
Originally Posted by roQer
Ok so I'm itching to get skiing. I traded my 2016 187 Bonafides for a pair of 194 Kastle MX 98s, and had a blast for a few days, but they are just too much ski for an everyday ski for me. Yep, I said it, it's too much ski. Getting to my question, I sold the 2016 187 Bonafides because I wanted more ski, a longer ski, more effective edge and a little stiffer of a ski. I'm reading the 2017/18 Bonafides have less tip rocker/early rise, give them a longer effective edge, is this true? Has anyone been on the new Bonafides and how do they compare to the most recent version?
I think its a custom to-sheet bodacious. Could be wrong but thats my guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by nyskirat
Ive skied the 180 rustler 11 in lighter tracked out powder, that through the day set up into some really many crud. Not once did I wish I was on a different ski. The 180 ploughed through the thunder and I an absolute blast of a ski. I'm 5'8' 178lbs dunno if that helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by ticketchecker
Because I measured last night, marked mount points:
Rustler 11 in 192 = -8cm
Cochise in 192 = -11cm
Fuck me! The Bode with those firebird graphics would be sweet. I would rock those.
Does anyone have any thoughts on where to mount a pair of Rustler 11s in a 188? Last season I was on a Spur which I mounted at +2 of recommended which I was super happy with.
I'm trying to decide between Rustler 10 or 11. It would be cool to have both, but I feel like 112 underfoot of the R11 isnt quite a big enough jump up in width to justify having it as a pow ski while also owning the R10. Can anyone comment on which would make more sense to get? I know it obviously comes down to whether or not you prefer a little fatter daily driver, but are there other significant characteristic difference between them? Been back and forth on the rustlers or black crows atris, and really having a hard time picking. Having a hard time being fully excited on one or the other..
Depends on where you ski and how you ski. I have the Rustler 11 in a 180 and its an incredible pow ski, and its a prep solid daily driver if you see softer snow conditions a lot. Its really quick edge to edge and skis through crud almost as well as the Cochise.Quote:
Originally Posted by jckstein