No, your not wrong, Walter. your just an asshole
Smokey, my friend, you are entering a world of pain.
....a world of pain.:D
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God damn you Tye! You fuckin' asshole! Everything's a fuckin' travesty with you, man! And what was all that shit about Vietnam? What the FUCK, has anything got to do with Vietnam? What the fuck are you talking about?
oh, ya this is about sullyitude expansion. ...I'm against any expansion.
unless it's in my pants:D
Bump for the fucking sillytudeness that would be only staffing one person to sell tickets on the busiest day of the year and firing a + 20 year snow safety
director. Ought to save enough $$ with those manuvers to buy a chairlift pad or two:rolleyes2
Thanks EW you were always willing to inpart snow safety info and even when you didn't think our (me and my partners) decisions were wise you communicated it in a profesional manner. We appriciated your willingness to get terrain open asap and your profesionalism. Hopefully your predesessor will continue that positive skier compaction get stuff open ideal. It was always great to have an open gate to get out and look across canyon and see the castle still closed the day after a storm;) Hope the best for you in the future and remember if your damn good at what you do you won't be a Solitude long.
cause thats the sillytude way.
here's a little more silver stoke
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...bum/sfb218.jpg
ten things I think I think (thank you Peter King)
1. Solitude was positioning itself with the FS and Wasatch Canyons Tomorrow in light of the proposed wilderness actions. The DeSeelhorst's want to make room for expansion before it turns into wilderness.
1.B there are to many mining roads in SF for this area to be considered wilderness. so the rush to expand before the DeSeelhorst's get shut out is mute.
1.C there are many abandoned mines in Silver Fork that may need attention. If you work for a Abandoned Mine cleanup and closure firm jump on this opportunity.
2. This (Silver Fork expansion) will go to full NEPA review. an EA at least if not an EIS for the ski resort expansion. EA= Environmental Assessment. EIS = Environmental Impact Statement.
3. "Water Water everywhere but not a drop to drink" Silver Fork provides 24% of BCC Watershed. This issue will alone be the HOT button issue. Forget the Hippy skiiners vs the ski lift riding tourists. Clean Water will trump all and if you missed it SLC is thirsty.
4. Chair lift construction/ parking lots/ base facilities are a major impact.
5. Heavy machinery / construction pollutes surface water. remember this is a watershed.
6. Ski Lifts - ski areas cut down trees. ( another impact vs the no action alternative.) The forest service will weigh this alternative vs the health of the forest.
7. I bet there is some sort of Special Status Species in silver fork. Bird, owl, plant, moose whatever that would be impacted by the proposed action.
8. Silver Fork has Private property owners at the Junction of BCC and the drainage. This group will definately have a voice on the proposed action.
9. Yeti-man likes to ride lifts (quantity and quality)
10. Track Head likes to skin (earn his turns)
Neither group (Yeti-man or TH) will influence the forest's service's decision. all the impacts (along with others) coupled with mitigation proposals by the DeSeelhorst's will impact the FS decision. The FS will weigh the watershed impact heavily and most likely determine that (the no action alternative) preserves the health of the forest and the water.
11. In the end, money trumps all. Where is the money here? Hint: Money don't tele.
Money rides the powder turd heli to slay the west bowl gnar;)
f/u has a good assessment there. Runoff is that priceless resource that serves the greatest good for the most people. It's in short supply in Salt Lake.
And screw Dave/Gary for firing their best people on a consistent basis. I love skiing solitude, I love skiing off lifts and all of that but I have no love for those guys and definitely no love for the way they run quality people off.
I have never seen the SF mines in the summer, but unless they are very significantly impacting water quality they will not be touched. There are sooooo many abandoned mines in BCC and cleaning them up is sooooo expensive and disruptive that it is generally best to just leave them alone.
When there are four lifts in Silver, one up Flag, one in Grizz, one into White Pine, they will need to make the White Pine Trailhead much larger to accomodate the public, as this will then be the only reasonable public access point in LCC.
It will be cool when the ski areas take over all of the current access points in LCC, leaving only one already over crowded parking lot left for the public.
5 years?
10 years?
20 years?
When will we lose all of our public land to special interest private companies?
I love skiing lifts and I love skiing sidecountry, the problem is once these 2 lifts go in, it makes the entire Wasatch sidecountry. This would effectively turn the number one backcountry destination in the US (quantity, snow and ease of access) into exclusively side country. You won't have to worry about giving someone directs to Chads Gap because it will be bumped out.
Silver days etc is sidecountry now. You fuck up or need help patrol will be there. ask Tanner ask Xover. Who was it that tried valiently to save Billy Pooles life?
Soli patrol
You may think your 1/2 hour trip up the alta cat groomer in grizzly is backcountry it aint. You want to ski backcountry get out of the fuckin pen and git sum.
Pm trackhead but only if you have a probe;)
Solitude scales back their plans:
http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_14876942
Ahh. The good ole' bait and switch. "Look how much less we are impacting, you should let us do this!"
What's stupid about that? I've been hiking in the Wasatch since I was 14 years old. You were probably suckling your East Infection trust fund in Boston at 14. And how the hell can you have such a boring life to have almost 4,000 posts. You can't possibly ski a lot and still have time for 4,000 posts. Be careful what you write. Why do all the duechebags hang out at Bonkers now?
^^^^ Nope chitown baby slaying the gnar of villa olivia wilmont and devils head.
my point is lifts acessing silver isn't going to ruin the waatch any more than the powder turds even less silver days sure it'll be more acessed but there is a whole lot of drainages
anyhow getting into silver from sillytude is so easy a 15 year old icegrom can do it
skied that hood last thurs. aside from a cool soli patroler Adam doing a backtracks trip with a smiling an older client bustin his bc cherry and someone who skied cabin run off davenport and put an awesome trade route skinner to days not a fuckin soul guess everybody was lined up to traverse
out to the castle in the oc:)
probably in the neighborhood of a few hundred days skiing those lines still make me smile every time. guess it aint ruined yet
waaahhh the proliferation of people in the bc sc is ruining the wasatch
i blame the straight chuter;) a few booters out to wolvie and the next thing ya know some brahs in the shop got a book that lists most of the cool chutes expect the meadows ones;) instant addiction worse than crack baby
i told ya before I scored 3k of those posts off Iceman for the lbs9k woodsy left me a 1/2 a pack of marlboro lights and a Rickey Bobby lighter
smokin deal 4 me from jong to prolific poster.
Shit between tip, buzz, truth, ice, splat, and a few other e/irl friends they got damn near 100k
you fuckers need to get a life:fm:
And a pad/bump for the sillytudeness of closing down summit this week and putting in a pay meter in the village lot.
Maybe it will pay off enough next season to run the lift that makes the place all season :rolleyes:
and this place reserved for soliskier representin the patrols thread cunting input
ftr I lot of those posts came from behind the desk of Club Solitude Not to tough to concierge/ cabanna boy and run smack on the webz on the clock.
No need to apologise just don't get butthurt when your crusty been here
done that for however many years posts stupid shit about a lift in one drainage ruining the wasatch.
for the record again I'm against any lift in silly fork or flagstaff. It is pathetically easy to access these areas
Ice what time @ the airport Fri.?
My phone is in the process of shitting the bed if that phone offers still good.
It's gonna be 11:35 AM Friday on Southwest, can you make that? If not no worries I have a Plan B. Verizon has the phone I wanted on display in the store but they don't have any to sell -fucking retarded- so I have to hold onto this one for a few more weeks. In the meantime I've got a Verizon Motorola flip phone that worked good last time I used it but I don't have a charger for it. Do you want it? Charger shouldn't be too hard to find. Or you can just wait until I get the other phone, you tell me.
^^^can do will be there
and a pad cause Bonkers was my first real tour.
we went there because Mr. Kelner said it was the longest pow run in the wasatch so long that a wizzard made 187 turns holding his breath the entire time
So I was a dueschbag on bonkers before the other douchebags, and i'm blaming Mr. Kelner too
this place reserved for trackheads 10,399th post;)
he's probably busy posting over at Motomadness.com or sumthin:p
well i hope it was a hottie cause Mr. Tosh says "Ciggertte smokin is dangereuos hazard to your health". Hope the wings healin the mrs. was wonderin how your healin. Anytime you want to use that upper lot as a trail head parking, just tell em your there to clean the butts off the deck of ES 401
Icemans got our backs;)
gonna be interesting to see how/when smokerise gets repaired any disc golfers got a boom crane on tracks they can borrow?
^^^ i guess they'll be winch cattin ortavox as an blue square down to summit
next season.
yo th after skate skis i guess they're all considered phat;) GBNP or Rubys corn trip in the future?
My take on resort expansions has always been that if it can be done in an enviormently friendly fashion, why not? To me this goes back to the Secret stash concept. Most riders have there own areas that they protect and try and keep secret, my self included. However no stash stays secret for ever, and none really belong to use or anyone for that matter. If its in the mountains it should be shared and if putting a lift up there to allow more people to enjoy some fresh terrain than all the better.
I do agree with the arguement of protecting the watershed, but the stance of the guy from the mountain club is bunk. Just because you've been skiing it forever dosnt meen its your's.
In regards to the ski areas motivation to add this area, one should look at A-basins expansion. It almost doubled the size of resort, although it is still a tiny place, but hasnt dramatically increased revenue. Just thinkin....
Soli is limited by parking. Maybe it's ground breaking time for the stacked parking garage and the new skybridge.
:D
The forest service rejected the proposal today.
good to see they saw the light
Strong work fornicatin and impregnatin the wife crackhead
Will the lift ticket for the sillysolitaliwhacker ganjola work on the silverfork PIPE DREAM LIFT
Still got loot on yeti smokin k2 made in china sissy stick spancered hippty hop turnin straightchuter.
When ever that goes down
expanding solitude is sSOo IronIc ! .....maybee brighton BuY em;or alta and add that twin lakes avy control lift. nfn...I bike honeycomb more than ski there