ARG II are shaped nice and flex nice... HEAVY like bordering on Spatula heavy. Would be fun inbounds
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ARG II are shaped nice and flex nice... HEAVY like bordering on Spatula heavy. Would be fun inbounds
In the video for these from Armada, Hans Smith says something along the lines of how he was remembering skiing Spatulas and other water skis with Shane McConkey, and he wanted to bring these bad boys back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Summit
I just grabbed a pair on sale. I have wanted them since Armada re-introduced them 2 years ago. I had 2012 ARGs, and they were so much fun. I remember those being pretty heavy, but these new ones are longer, heavier, and stiffer for sure. They weigh as much as my Pro Riders (2600-2700 grams/ski), and they aren't much softer. In fact they are stiffer underfoot, but then a bit softer in the tips/tails. Impressive flex for sure.
I am very impressed by the look and feel of these and I can't wait to shred them next season inbounds and out. I plan on keeping these until they die too, I always regretted selling my original ARGs
What should I mount them with? Should I put some Duke PT 16s on them, or should I just stick to alpine bindings, and just use them for sidecountry/cat skiing/bootpacking as well as inbounds?
ARG II
Looks sweet. But it’s too short.
186cm true length. I actually like this type of ski a little short. If I’m going longer, I’d rather be on a Supergoat versus a 195cm R/R type ski.
IMHO length (as in, it was too short) was the problem with the Spatula. The 192 L138 solved that problem, and the 200/202 makes it even better in the right conditions.
I haven't skied longer versions, but maybe for me as an untracked pow ski, but I don't ski untracked pow often. If I did, I'd definitely want to try a 200cm version. However for that, I'd still think I'd prefer a Supergoat or C&D.
..what about as an inbounds chop and soft chunder bump masher? That's what I bought these for. I personally loved my original ARGs on soft days inbounds for that sort of stuff. Stay centered and basically just rollerblading through chunky chundery snow
^^ Of course, this is why skis come in different lengths and styles --- just my preference on the full reverse/reverse type ski.
As an inbounds chop/crud ski, the L138 goes through (or over) stuff well, but the firmer the snow gets, the harder it is on my knees on a ski that wide. As floatation becomes less important (i.e. as snow gets firmer), the width becomes less of a helpful factor and more of a knee-torquing deterrent.
For me, as a tele skier, in inbounds chop/crud, I need to be “on” with my l138’s in terms of balance and centered-ness. It’s rewarding but can be demanding in those conditions. I typically ski my bibby’s if I’ll be spending most my time in chop/crud at the ski hill.
I love Bibbys/Wildcats in those sort of conditions too. Such a good ski, I need a new pair of 190s, but am so broke. On top of Billy Goats. Glad I got my ARGs out of the way. I hope they keep making this ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
ARGs always felt pivoty rollerblade-like in soft but choppy/chunky conditions, not demanding ever. Stay centered, and the skis just do the work while you pivot and jump around at any speed you choose. They are stiff and heavy AF! So fun, one of the best experiences I've had skiing. I've found softer chop and chunk to be their best habitat to be honest. They are obviously pretty damn great in powder too, but the tips float less than underfoot, which is "different" to say the least. Never minded them on groomers, although that feels even more "different"
Makes me wonder where these came from...Quote:
Originally Posted by glademaster
This is the pair I picked up a few weeks ago, from a guy in Nederland.
182 Lotus 138 Pure3 Spoons
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Hoarhey; I think those started life as my test pair (if they are 192’s).
And I LOVE that green color too.
edit- I see they are 182.
Thanks for chiming in marshal. I’m stoked. Supposedly never skied
just mounted once for kingpins.
I bought the skis flat
Don’t have them in hand yet
Your test pair was the same color scheme? One green and one purple?
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Just comparing my purple 192 Powderworks 138s to Hoarhey’s 182 Pure 3s and they look quite different (although that could just be my eyes, the different lengths and camera angles etc). Other than moving to the Alchemist layup does anyone know what other changes were made between the Pure 3 and the Powderworks? Just curious.
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Those look great.
Maybe yours have less tip taper
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My L138s Pure3 are on their 3rd mount.
I dream of them all the time. Unreal.
Conor, if you're reading this. I'm sorry you sold them to me.
If any 192 L138s exist out there. Hit me up! Conor you get first dips.
Who’s picking up these?
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Do a Facebook Marketplace search in Anchorage for "DPS skis" and then send me a thank you. They are the carbon ones. Seller claims the "have not been used at all" and have a Dynafit A/T binding. He wants $800. I keep staring at this ad and reminding myself that I now own two pairs of Spatulas and am about to close on a house.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAPHILL
I have a pair of 138 spoons that I’m considering letting go…
They are the green Special Edition graphic in a 192. Mounted once for dynafit radical/superlite 2.0 @ 296? I think…
Sent him a PM, thanks for the pro tip!
If you need a hand picking up/shipping/etc., let me know. As I've been trying to build my quiver of Machetes this year, I've been feeling the pain of distance ski purchasing.Quote:
Originally Posted by CAPHILL
At truckee swap. $400 with clamps.
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Did you buy them?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by bodywhomper
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/\/\/\ What he said.
192s with clamps; steal.
Nope. Had my hands full and focused on a long list of kids gear. Almost got em for the 16yo, but got some more versatile minty shiros instead. Already regretting…. But I already have r1’s.