The Dynastar Thread

Good discussion here. Even though I felt like the 192 MFree gave up a bit of stability in heavy chop, I love the way it handles most everything else. Soft snow, groomed, light chop, powder. It handles it all really well. The good thing is they have shown there is a bigger market for playful chargers and all the major ski makers are putting something out.

The MFree has been the king for the last few years and now the Unleashed and new Rangers are out with the Sender Free 110 coming up, too. I'm stoked to get time on more of them to see if they can knock the MFree off for me. Hurry up and buy them all Bandit so I can try them. [emoji28]

This whole discussion comes down to what works best for you in conditions you ski. The whole thing kind of reminds me of the old Miller Lite commercials: "Less filling" - "Tastes Great". Whatever ever rings your bell is the ski to have. Lots of really good options, for sure.

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Originally Posted by D(C)

I’ve just never gotten along that well with most more traditionally-shaped skis at Whistler. Once the snow is skied out, there’s no blasting though it, and I find I can charger harder on a ski where I know I can vary turn shape and throw it sideways. Feeling I’m on a runaway train does not make me want to ski faster. I’m a fan of rocker and taper, combined with a heavy weight and stiffer flex.

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Skiing sierras mostly i can jive with that. I've got a buddy who skied the cochise for years then got on a pinnacle 95 and started ripping HARDER because he knew he could throw em and shut em down almost telepathically. For me the moment i knew the mf108 was no longer the ski for me was when i traded skis with another buddy on 188 super 7's so he could try my skis and we did several laps down climax at mammoth through consolidated day old crud. We tried to time the opening of the top after a storm but they opened it at 2pm the day before and it got tracked out and set up over night. i could somehow ski it faster and smoother on his skis than mine. Super freaking 7's. I could pivot and pop at will and i skied it faster and couldn't believe it.

The mf108 was hands down the most intuitive ski i rode all year (maybe even ever?) in soft, consistent snow. I even think that "playful charger" balance carried over reasonably well to more set up snow if i stayed centered. But what I rediscovered over the weekend while skiing the new fl113 was a whole other gear beyond whatever i was skiing earlier in the season on other skis. It's a fool's errand to keep chasing a goldilocks ski that is JUST at the limits of almost too stiff for your size/ability/conditions that has JUST enough forgiveness in flex/rocker at the tip or tail to know that you can shut it down if you just trust them to open it up first. But man it is sweet when you find it. I used to ride one unwaxed, untuned park ski everywhere all the time. But my first pair of xxl's (still keeping it 100 on the dynastar thread) gave me that "at the limit/just under the limit" feeling that i have chased through dozens of skis ever since

Chewski, have you skied the bibby/wildcat. Your climax experience (heh!) screams bibby/wildcat to me.

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Originally Posted by californiagrown

Agreed. which is why they are a super good ski for where i ski and how i ski 95% of the time. When i think "charging" i think fall line and fast no matter what is in the way, and this skis doesnt do that real well when the snow turns shitty (by alpental standards). Which is honestly fine because no one ski can do everything super duper well. It still has the widest range of conditions it is perfect for of any ski ive been on. I thought i might be missing out on how to utilize the ski to its full potential, but seems more like im just lost in semantics. Ill see myself out now.

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Go find mofro at Alpy and rip around with him.


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Originally Posted by bodywhomper

Chewski, have you skied the bibby/wildcat. Your climax experience (heh!) screams bibby/wildcat to me.

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Moment is one of the skis i've always meant to but never have gotten on before

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Originally Posted by 2FUNKY

Go find mofro at Alpy and rip around with him.


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If you can see him. Dude is a blur... [emoji28]

I think we all aspire to rip like Mofro.

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Originally Posted by phatty

If you can see him. Dude is a blur... [emoji28]

I think we all aspire to rip like Mofro.

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Yep, fun dude to ski with. Just another example of a guy who has no issues charging on the Mfree108.


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All the MF108 fanbois eyeing now the Rossignol Sender Free 110 with a hard on in the pants…

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Originally Posted by roQer

All the MF108 fanbois eyeing now the Rossignol Sender Free 110 with a hard on in the pants…

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There are some major differences that would make me want to demo first, namely the forward mount and what looks to be less taper at tips and tails.

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Originally Posted by D(C)

There are some major differences that would make me want to demo first, namely the forward mount and what looks to be less taper at tips and tails.

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Yep. Hopefully I’ll be able to get on a pair here soon.


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Ive been searching around for reviews on my rossi blackops 96 alpineers and it looks to be very similarvto the dynastar mtour 99 in construction, rocker, dims, weight and rearward mount point which is the same as the mpro 99 (-12.25) appart from construction/weight. Blister gear are the only review ive found with mention of the mount point on the mpro 99 they tested. He tried it at -8.25 and -10.25 and found them fine within that range. Has anyone with mpro 99's trued different mount points?

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Originally Posted by phatty

I have the Factory Proto 118 (gray/black/orange) and it's my 2nd favorite powder ski behind my BGs. They can do everything you want from a powder ski. Plus you can find them pretty cheap.

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I have a pair of the black/floro 118's think that they say "menace" on them - have not drilled them and about to do so. Like a more traditional mount, so put it on the back line?

everyday is the m-pro 99 <- took a bit to get used to, but really like.

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Originally Posted by givethepigeye

I have a pair of the black/floro 118's think that they say "menace" on them - have not drilled them and about to do so. Like a more traditional mount, so put it on the back line?

everyday is the m-pro 99 <- took a bit to get used to, but really like.

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Mine are on back line. I like a traditional mount. Turn on a thought.

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Originally Posted by CaliBrit

Mine are on back line. I like a traditional mount. Turn on a thought.

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mine have a bump and then two lines bracketing the "Made in Spain"

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So, the bottom line? Or is there something else

PS - im an idiot on this stuff

The bumps on the top sheet are the recommended boot center


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Originally Posted by givethepigeye

mine have a bump and then two lines bracketing the "Made in Spain"

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So, the bottom line? Or is there something else

PS - im an idiot on this stuff

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Yah…. Those lines are nothing to do with mount point!

I mounted to the back of the bumps. Measure and check the bumps are in the same place on each ski.

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I have a pair of the black/floro 118's think that they say "menace" on them - have not drilled them and about to do so. Like a more traditional mount, so put it on the back line?

everyday is the m-pro 99 <- took a bit to get used to, but really like.

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I would go on the line (I did). Most mount ahead of the line it seems.

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Originally Posted by Eluder

I would go on the line (I did). Most mount ahead of the line it seems.

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Thanks - knew the bumps were the boot center - didn't know if those lines were for a more traditional vs. floppy spinny mount. So, I guess the recommended it is.

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Originally Posted by CaliBrit

Yah…. Those lines are nothing to do with mount point!

I mounted to the back of the bumps. Measure and check the bumps are in the same place on each ski.

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Thanks.

189 MFree 118 for 40% off, Canadian $, at our shop. Figured someone would be keen. I can ship to US. Call or email only. https://www.selkirkskiandbike.com/contact

i'm shifting gears a bit. not sure who is reading the tele is dead thread, but i'm currently shifting from thinking about a playful charger in a 105-110 width, eg. mfree 108, to a DD/work ski in a 100-ish width. wondering what's better for my need from dynastar, mfree 99 or mpro 99. i'm putting together my short list then finding a deal (some proform's available) and pulling the trigger.

this would be replacing full camber mantras that i've had for several years but are a bit too long for my weight when making tele turns unless i'm carrying momentum/speed. prior to mantras, i had explosives, which were the right length for me, and i skied them until they loss all camber. my local areas are "small hills" (e.g. sugarbowl and alpine meadows), but occasionally i ski on "big hills," like mammoth. modern ski design, damp but poppy charger, fun, nimble, great edge hold, great at various turn shapes and sizes, and not too effort much at slow speed, either because i'm making slow controlled "patroller" turns, skiing with my younger kids, or on steep exposed barely edgeable stuff.

revelation of replacing my DD's came to me from observing a friend this weekend at mammoth on his 2 year old very short (for him) k2 mindbenders 99ti. ripping skier. for him, those skis can do anything without much effort. we spent a good amount of time in less-than-optimal mammoth conditions: e.g., sastrugi moguls with frozen corn and sastrugi moguls mixed with barely edgeable hard chalk to access the windbuff that was mixed with sastrugi moguls.

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Originally Posted by bodywhomper

i'm shifting gears a bit. not sure who is reading the tele is dead thread, but i'm currently shifting from thinking about a playful charger in a 105-110 width, eg. mfree 108, to a DD/work ski in a 100-ish width. wondering what's better for my need from dynastar, mfree 99 or mpro 99. i'm putting together my short list then finding a deal (some proform's available) and pulling the trigger.

this would be replacing full camber mantras that i've had for several years but are a bit too long for my weight when making tele turns unless i'm carrying momentum/speed. prior to mantras, i had explosives, which were the right length for me, and i skied them until they loss all camber. my local areas are "small hills" (e.g. sugarbowl and alpine meadows), but occasionally i ski on "big hills," like mammoth. modern ski design, damp but poppy charger, fun, nimble, great edge hold, great at various turn shapes and sizes, and not too effort much at slow speed, either because i'm making slow controlled "patroller" turns, skiing with my younger kids, or on steep exposed barely edgeable stuff.

revelation of replacing my DD's came to me from observing a friend this weekend at mammoth on his 2 year old very short (for him) k2 mindbenders 99ti. ripping skier. for him, those skis can do anything without much effort. we spent a good amount of time in less-than-optimal mammoth conditions: e.g., sastrugi moguls with frozen corn and sastrugi moguls mixed with barely edgeable hard chalk to access the windbuff that was mixed with sastrugi moguls.

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Off topic, but are you on the red and silver Mantras with the old Japanese dude on them? I have the same skis and may have run into you in the SB lift line earlier this season.

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Off topic, but are you on the red and silver Mantras with the old Japanese dude on them? I have the same skis and may have run into you in the SB lift line earlier this season.

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Yes. I always have a fun exchange with others in the exact skis! we are a mini cult :)

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