I think so, too. ;)Quote:
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I think so, too. ;)Quote:
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Hey Marshal,
I've been following Blossom for several years and owned a set of their White-Out ( 77 wide ), now called AM77. They finally have some decent distribution in North America so garnering more attention these days. Some of their designs have been around for decades, proven indeed -> if it ain't broke don't fix it. No need to change for the sake of having some new buzzwords for the marketing guys to go on about.
I'm on your buy for the R87.
Looking at Blossom's line-up, looks like you are using their "Formula" series of skis for molds, which come in a 87, 99, 120 and same dimension as yours. However the Formula series is their lighter weight freeride, touring, back-country, line-up. I'll be most curious how you adapt a heavier charger-build to those molds. Should be fun ! Looking forward to the end result.
Hey man!
Funny you mention the AM77, but I am essentially putting the Numero Uno/AM series ski construction into the Formula shapes. Versus the Formula, the Heritage Lab skis are stiffer, heavier, and damper than the stock Formula skis via denser and more closely stacked core + heavier fiberglass spec.
Sort of the opposite of making a touring version of an alpine ski by putting a lighter core and laminate into the ski. The good news is that this is predictable because the overall desired stiffness and flex pattern is known, and the quantitative and qualitative aspects of the materials are well defined.
We originally looked at the Squadra Course construction in the Formula skis, but decided it was overkill and would have been unpleasant to ride.
Thanks for the update, Marshal. A little bummed on missing out on the C120s but I'm excited about the other skis you're brewing up too. And I just pulled the trigger on R87s which might be more practical anyhow, so excited to crush some low tide skiing next season.
I'm also loving all of the talk of construction, designs, stiffness, etc. Are there any good youtube clips that you'd recommend to learn more about ski building, etc.? I don't want to build skis or anything, but would love to learn a bit more of the physics behind shapes, stiffness, etc. and how it translates more directly to skiing (without getting a PhD). Wonder if you have any recs.
Still stoked for the project!
That R120 will be one serious ski, way out of my league, but cool that such a ski is being brought to market, Great Stuff !
I duno ^^ I was intimidated by the huge advertised turning radius of the lotus 120
but I found a deal on the 2011 red 184 lotus 120 in 184cm,
IME it was really easy to ski cuz I could do that BIG 38 M turn or slarve it down to sliding sideways
with 60CM of early rise its almost impossible to go over the tips
SO I picked up 2011 190 lotus 120 hardly used with skins & Barons
Which is the ski I use most at the hill if there is any fresh at all and I am just 5' 8"/ 165lb
R120 isn't the Lotus shape.
and the R120 has metal as well (raceroom beast)
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interesting! So I don’t know of any, but actually had been toying with my own YouTube tech talk thing. Dumb idea or interesting?Quote:
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Interesting!
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Podcast!Quote:
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Unless a video format is more conducive to the content you’re considering. Either way, “interesting, not dumb” is my input.
Also a big podcast fan,as I drive a fair amount for work. When visuals are needed, make a video! [emoji106]Quote:
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Great idea!Quote:
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I’ve done a small amount of research. So please start it.
Your first several videos are going to be throw-aways, so plan accordingly.
Don’t be afraid to repeat yourself over several months.
Invite us on to chat.
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What gaijin said.
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The best reference I found on the subject is Skiing Mechanics by John Howe (once in a while you can find it for cheap):Quote:
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https://www.amazon.ca/New-Skiing-Mec.../dp/0935240020
This podcast by Jurij Franko is also interesting:
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcas...=1000414971780
Neither really cover modern ski design (i.e., last 20 years) with rocker, reverse camber/sidecut, etc. It is mostly about carving, sidecut, bending and torsional stiffness, and pressure distribution, which are all super important. It would be fun to have newer material on modern ski design!
You can also learn a lot about ski building here: http://www.skibuilders.com/phpBB2/.
I'd watch/listen for sure!
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Definitely interesting. Since it’s a tech talk, graphs and diagrams would be useful, so a purely verbal podcast approach sounds much less interesting to this engineer. Also, decent videos that combine visual and verbal tend to be evergreen and folks will rewatch down the road. I never listen to podcasts twice.Quote:
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yes, Marshal's podcast / youtube channel sounds like just what the world needs right now.
as in, yes, please, I would love to listen to / watch any content you make!
My vote is podcast, simply because I listen to a lot of podcasts during my work day. Video may be a better match for this type of material though.
I'm with frorider on this one. The topic at hand would be better served by visuals, animated or real, to get the point across.
This is a good point about going back, part of it is the ease of finding places in a video vs a podcast. That said, gaijin makes a good point about the first ones being a throwaway, so maybe a podcast or a video without visuals would be a good way to get a start. Put something out and see what you think needs to change before doing more.Quote:
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Like a 191 Lhasa Pow?Quote:
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Yup. I've been thinking about a 191 LB since the beginning of this thread. While we're at it let's also include a Lhasa Fat and KusalaQuote:
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I love my 191 Lhasas but I think the shape and weight could be refinedQuote:
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Not a Lhasa. Still going to be a blast, though!Quote:
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only need 1000 subscribers to monitize.. That's like just a few clicks away with some of the alter-egos around here.
I think there’s been some improvement in tip shape and I would love to have something a bit more heavy than my hybrid Lhasas. Maybe that ski already exists? Maybe one sheet of metal.Quote:
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Sorry, haven't read through all of this, but is that really the aim? A more forgiving version of those kinds of skis, or can people get a true duplicate? Because I wouldn't want to lose anything from the LP as it was originally made (which is why I stockpile them). Can't speak to the other skis...Quote:
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Didn’t you read? The R99 is supposed to be a mix of Legends and Monsters. I hardly think Marshal would make it a watered down Legend.Quote:
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alrighty then. I'll give a few youtube videos a go. Only 80% uncomfortable in front of the camera, haha. But it could be good fun. Or wildly embarrassing.
@dex - text me back yo.
Having skied my 186cm Legend Pro's all weekend, after I blew up my Legend Pro 105 184cm, they are easier to ski than I remembered. They just have less sidecut so you gotta actually get the ski on edge and drive it. A bit different than the just roll skis with tons of sidecut and ride that sidecut. Super fun actually.
Again, reading...what did I respond to? That's why I posted what I did.Quote:
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Agreed. I love my LP 194's, and I don't think they're excessively unforgiving, they just need to be driven (the classic description of them as a powder ski that skis like a SG ski is accurate, IMO).Quote:
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It will be interesting if the 113 directional charger takes some cues from lotus 120
And same thing for a reverse reverse upper 120’s low 130’s model
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113 directional pintail with long radius?Quote:
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I’m in
The average of Lotus 120 and BMX 105 hp is FR113????
Are you surfing rain corn on your bmx 105s today?Quote:
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That would technically be 112.5. [emoji16]Quote:
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