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^^^ that's the thing with extra bindings, they always find a friend
Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beder
Like new STH 16s, worth say $150US…
opportunity cost is $450US for E94 skis + $150US bindings not sold = $600US
I seem to succumb very time.
Should just learn to sell excess bindings. But it never happens.
Ok ,revisiting the E94 vs E100 debate. I'm usually on a 98-100 daily driver for both EC and fairly frequent travel to LCC, previously the old red Mantra than the Nordica Hell and Back. Have too many skis 115+. I was considering going with the 94 , but then realized even in trash conditions I'm still not on groomers all that much , so now thinking the 100 again, especially for travel. What would Jeebus do?
Skied the 94-179 at Alta this past weekend. Previously had the 2018 100-177 and have the 2021 104-179. In heavy spring snow - some heavy chalk on northerlies, otherwise 6" of spring slush, the 94s were the most fun <100 ski I skied off-piste, but they were still a bit underpowered off piste imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duffman
The 100 has more width, same rocker; the 104 have a bit more tip and tail rocker and more width. Right? Both of those characteristics translate to on-piste/off-piste exactly how you think.
I like my 104s as a single ski for Alta, but if I were thinking EC AND LCC, the 100 seem to make a lot of sense too. Of the three, I wouldn't choose the 94 for the do-it-all LCC ski.
Having only spent time on the 93, not 94, my opinion is that those two skis are much more "groomer-focused" for western duty and the 100 gives a little up to the narrower variants on-piste, but is the much more versatile option overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duffman
I demoed the E94-179 at Alta last weekend with cirquescaler and echo what he was saying. Its the best sub-100 ski I've used off piste, the ski tracks very well and the tips don't get hung up like on most other skis in that category. Also very easy to pivot, they feel lighter underfoot than they are (in a good way). They did get a little bogged down in soft snow just like any ski in that width. I am considering to buy it as a secondary ski as my only resort ski right now is 108, I would not choose it as a one ski quiver for Utah. I also demoed the E104-179 and the E94 definitely skis longer as it has less rocker. I can't really give great feedback on the E104 as the 179 is just too short for me in that ski but the 179 E94 works. In a perfect world they would make it in 182.
I have the 93 and 100.
Agree with what written above. IMHO the 93 is noticeably quicker edge to edge and better on piste so if it’s a groomer day, firm day or even spring corn thats my pick.
If I’m throwing one pair in the car for a trip here in CO it’ll almost always be the 100 - just much more versatile in soft, pow, mank, variable and still decent on firm.
So for your question - travel to LCC assuming you bring a big ski then 100 (104 if bringing one pair); for EC I reckon I’d lean to 94 but you could easily argue opposite and choose to go either way depending on your preference, your terrain, your skiing, your quiver etc.
I got my dad (intermediate skier, 67 years old) a pair of 185 Enforcer 110s for Christmas this year. He loves them and prefers them over all his other skis, even on hard pack.
He likes how easy they are to ski, how maneuverable they are and how damp they are. He has some old sports injuries, so he's started to really appreciate how a damp ski saves his knees a bit.
He's now looking to get something similar as a low tide ski for hardpack and groomers. An ideal ski for him would carve well, but also be forgiving and be damp and maneuverable.
The Enforcer 104 Free comes to mind, along with maybe Rustler 10. Is there anything else that should be on his list?
Yeah this all makes a lot of sense. The 100 probably works the best here , paired with the Praxis Q or GPO as the bigger ski. I'll give up some EC hardpack performance but it should still work. If I want more of that can always get some type of groomer zoomer down the road , since the correct answer to any ski quiver question is always N+1. Thanks all for the input !Quote:
Originally Posted by dcpnz
FYI. I found a hudge difference between the 94 and the 100.
94 was a carving beast
100 was a forgiving ride
Those are the only two I’ve ridden. Both current models.
I think 94 and 84 are different from the rest of the fatty lineup.
Ymmv
Can he actually carve a turn? If he can, I would not recommend the Rustler 10. If he slides his turns and doesn't rail then okay. 104 can carve just fine, forgiving and a fine old man ski, but it isn't a hard snow groomer zoomer by any means.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
He mostly slides out his turns.Quote:
Originally Posted by uglymoney
I've been working on teaching him to actually hold an edge. He would most likely not want something that aggressively locks him into a turn and takes him for a ride, but ideally he'd have something that allows him to learn to carve while being forgiving.
104 free vs woodsman 102 for dad skis at Snoqualmie? I am 6’3” 205 and have supergoats for fresh and goliaths for super g turns but need something fun at slower speeds and no new snow. Had my goliaths out at Hyak over the weekend and they need more room to run. Hopefully my 5yo will be skiing independently next winter so these can get some use.
I’m a dad and I think the E104s are more forgiving than my Gen 1 WD108s. I can’t say how that translates to the newer WD102s, but I hear the WDs are more Wren than they are Jeffrey.
To further elaborate, I think the Woods have a higher top speed and more charge, vs the E104s have more pop and can be skied a little more relaxed or with charge as well. Very balanced feel.
Re the E104….it’s the ski I will typically take out when I need my skis to be easy (ie early season legs, or we’re doing a steep entrance with a no fall section and can’t f up, or skiing Blackcomb’s tight terrain but with groomers after, or a day with some of our psycho pals and who knows what the heck we’re gonna ski at Whistler/ Blackcomb). They E104s are just easy to ski (which is why they get slagged….I don’t get that), especially with the bindings bumped a bit forward from rec.
At the same time they don’t suck to ski. It’s why I own them.
Looking for a 186 Enforcer 104 in excellent to new condition. Thanks!
Not quite what you're looking for, but I have a pair of 185 Enforcer 110s for sale. Drilled once for Pivot 18s (285 mm BSL), skied 4 runs. Absolutely mint except for the binding holes.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmsummit
Thanks.....but only interested in the 104s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman
I have a pair of 186 104s from 2020 - drilled once for Wardens at 345mm BSL. Skied ~20 days, normal wear and tear - definitely in very good condition but wouldn't call them excellent, if that's a deal breaker.
Willing to sell with or without clamps.
^^PM sent.
Just picked up a pair of 179cm 2022 Nordica Enforcer 88s on sale....my first ski below 96mm in a very long time.
Decided to make my quiver a quiver.
Please post a good review. Nobody in here has afaik.Quote:
Originally Posted by kc_7777
I want to test drive some of those also.
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I had a pair of these in my hands last week. I’m agonizing over whether I want to spend the extra for the carbon versionQuote:
Originally Posted by kc_7777
Thought about the E94 but decided I wanted an 88 ski (for groomers) as I have many off-piste skis. I paid $550CDN for 2022s. Got some 95mm white Pivot 18s that will look good on the 2022 top sheet with the white Nordica lettering.Quote:
Originally Posted by uglymoney
Will definitely post a review once I have a few days on em.
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I think I talked about these up thread but maybe not.
Grabbed a pair of 88’s very late in the season. I expected them to ski like a slightly narrower 94 but they felt quite different. Lots of energy. Light, quick, poppy was my impression. A real groomer ski as opposed to the 94 which handled beat up snow off piste very well.
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The 2022 E88s arrived today.
They feel solid. Real solid.
White Pivot 18s going on these.
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Looking forward to your impressions. I’m covered with a pair of Brahma 88’s, but like the things I have read about the Enforcer 88.
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According to Blister and tgr peeps the new Brahmas aren't the same as the old Brahmas. My last gen black Brahmas from Beder are dialed I think, but Blisters review makes it sound to me like the newest Brahma 88 are similar to my Brahma 82, which to me suck off piste and are way more demanding than they need to be for what they give in return.
So that my interest in the Enforcer 88. The Brahma is going for front side cord chargers and the Enforcer more versatile with the looser tail it seems.
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Originally Posted by uglymoney
Thanks dudes. I set a Google shopping alert and my dad was able to find a pair of 186 Enforcer 104s for a steal this off season.Quote:
Originally Posted by kc_7777
Think it is worth going on the line or +1 or +2 on the mount? He skis his 110s on the line.
I'd go on the line. They ski very short and are more than nimble enough on the line.
He is going to love them.
^Sweet! Thanks.
He's already started to sell off other skis. Looks like he'll only have the Enforcer Free 104s and 110s this season. I think that'll be a pretty solid quiver of two for him here at the Ghee.
Either the line or +1cm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevo
They are so easy to ski…and easier if you bump forward a cm.
So maybe go +1cm on his E104s (as you’re on the line for the 110s for pow). The E104s will be so easy to turn (carve or slarve) at +1cm, great for trees.
I’m at +2cm on mine, but I like really forward mounts (eg . -4cm to -6cm).
I think I may go +1cm on my E88s (-7.1cm).
K
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Banditman, you've been a hell of a resource on this thread. Thunderous applause is due you. Seriously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandit Man
After reading all you've said, plus reviews, I've picked up a pair of 115's for my West Coast inbounds pow day workhorses. Thanks to ptex1 for working a good deal and making that smooth.
I can see that most everyone including the Blister folks have said mounting on the line is just right. So nothing to squabble about there: but any other tips on setup? It seems most recommend a heavy detune north and south of contact points... True as far as you see it? And bevel at 1-degree base and 2 side? 3 side?
Penny for your thoughts, if you have any others to spare.. And tip of the hat to your commitment to demystifying the various Enforcer variants. It's been a good read.
The Santa Ana is the ladies version of the enforcer, correct? I'm looking to put my wife into a set of the 84s or maybe the 88s. She needs something with metal and stability after coming from the Captis birdie which needs a lot of work to release the tails.
Also looking at a 172cm Santa Ana 88 for my wife. Though likely she could ski the E88s as she liked the 177cm M102 and skied it no problem. The Santa Ana’s have less metal (eg. 1 sheet vs 2 sheets) compared to the men’s Enforcer versions. Which could make sense when we’re talking 125 lbs (her) vs 170 lbs (me).Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuntmonkey
Was also looking at a 172cm Sheeva 9.
PS she already has the 172cm Santa Ana Free and really likes those.
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I had her demo the Sheeva 9 and she wasn't really impressed with that. I love my wife, but she is a cruise the blues/do her own thing level of skier right now. I like the sound of the Secret 96 but I'm reading it does need to be driven aggressively?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvan
Fantastic thanks for that. I might get her to demo them all this year at Louise. Our home hill is Fernie, but we won't be spending any time there this year as it's the last season before our home there is built, so we are banging around the mountain collective resorts for 22/23.
Not sure if discussed yet, but this years 115 has 2 sheets of metal and last couple seasons it was sporting one sheet.
Loved my version with one sheet but excited for an even better ski in choppy pow. Anyone got time on the 2023 version?
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You sure about that? I have the first year Enforcer Pro (115) and they have two sheets of metal…Quote:
Originally Posted by ski whore
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Originally Posted by Bandit Man
BM is right. It’s had two sheets since the start. Another great reason to have a blister membership….