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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn
I know the world is full of toxins. The air is full of shit. The water is full of shit. Our food is full of shit. Our houses are full of shit. The toys our children play with are full of shit. So answer me this DBS--HOW COME THERE ARE 7 FUCKING BILLION OF US?!!!
I think you're on to something. We don't need vaccines, but we do need more and stronger toxins in our food, water, air, houses, and toys. We kill off enough of us and there won't be any more flu.
Reminder: Schools' immunization exclusion day Feb. 21
SALEM, Ore. - The Oregon Immunization Program is reminding parents that children will not be able to attend school or child care starting Wednesday, Feb. 21 -- School Exclusion Day -- if their records on file show missing immunizations.
State law requires that all children in public and private schools, preschools, Head Start and certified child care facilities have up-to-date documentation on their immunizations, or have an exemption.
"Immunization keeps schools and the entire community healthy and safe," said Stacy de Assis Matthews, school law coordinator in the Oregon Health Authority Public Health Division. "It is the best way to protect children against vaccine-preventable diseases such as whooping cough and measles."
Children whose school and child care vaccination records are not up to date on Feb. 21 will be sent home.
Local health departments in 2017 sent 29,932 letters to parents and guardians, informing them their children needed immunizations to stay in school or child care. A total of 4,646 children were kept out of school or child care until the necessary immunization information was turned in to the schools or child care facilities. Letters to parents were mailed on or before Feb. 7.
Parents seeking immunizations for their children should contact their health care provider or local health department, or call 211Info (dial 211 or go to 211info.org). No one can be turned away from a local health department because of inability to pay for required vaccines. Many pharmacists can immunize children 7 years and older. Parents should contact their neighborhood pharmacy for details.
Paul Cieslak, MD, medical director for the Oregon Immunization Program, said vaccines are a great way to protect children because they boost their bodies' natural defenses.
"Vaccines give kids the immunity they need without their having to suffer the illnesses," Cieslak said. "They're perhaps the best ounce of prevention kids can get."
More information on school immunizations is at the Immunization Program website at http://www.oregon.gov/OHA/PH/Prevent...ges/index.aspx. Follow the Oregon Immunization Program on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/OregonImmunize.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” -- Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Abraham Lincoln said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno
It's a Moynahan quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by old goat
You can look it up and shit.
The beauty of a smart phone, multi-tasking.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
It just feels like a Lincoln quote to me so I'm going with Lincoln. I don't care what the Googles say.Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Bridget Moynihan...great titsQuote:
Originally Posted by iceman
These people put urine in their eyes and the results are entirely predictable
If you haven’t come across ‘anti-vaxxers’ before – people who prefer to seek out alternatives to more obvious solutions like vaccination – check this out.
Over on Twitter, Alistair Coleman belongs to an ‘anti-anti-vaxxers’ group – you with me? – and he found this.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWgxa2jXkAAesB3.jpg
For internet responses follow title link - there's some good comedy there. LOL!
Which one is DBS?
WTFF. Why would anyone pour piss in their eye?
Maybe it was a golden shower gone awry?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSilverSurfer
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Originally Posted by PNWbrit
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Urine contains a fair amount of excreted nutrients- in fact, I recall years ago seeing an article proposing the harvesting of such nutrients. for what purpose, I do not remember. While fresh urine is clean (at least it ought to be), nine-day-old piss, if not stored properly will serve as an effective medium for bacterial growth. Might as well wash your face in the toilet, eh?
Can you get sick drinkin piss?
Asking for a friend?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcski
Reading KQ's post helps me to see why there are such fucked-up conspiracy theorists around. Well, not why, but I see a linkage.
I'm guessing at least nauseous?Quote:
Originally Posted by mcski
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Originally Posted by mcski
Certain Asian cultures believe drinking the urine (Urophagia) is the key to a long life.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcski
It's really hard not to post this every time I come across one:Quote:
Originally Posted by Meadow Skipper
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we all did get flu shots in our house last fall. last night my son not feeling well, this morning has flu symptoms. I needed him to sleep, not take him out to the dr. or urgent care to get tamiflu, so I decided to try that virtuwell.com. Put in his symtoms, answered their questions, etc. and within and hour a message that it sounds like influenza and an anti-viral med prescription was sent to our pharmacy (that I chose on their form). Let's hope it helps shorten the agony. But I recommend that website for sure. ($49 for diagnosis without insurance... I input our insurance, so will just pay our co-pay, and was $75 for the med at the pharmacy)
Had not heard of that. Looks cool. Thanks. https://www.virtuwell.comQuote:
Originally Posted by hikesalot
10%. Hmm... that would save only 4000 lives. Sorry, I'm too busy protesting school shootings. Might try the urine treatment though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rideski
actually they upped it to 36% for adults and higher for children.Quote:
Originally Posted by LongShortLong
This year’s flu vaccine is only 36 percent effective—and that’s great news
In the last decade, only one flu shot has reached the 60 percent efficacy mark. Three others have gotten over 50 percent. The lowest: 19.
So when the Centers for Disease Control says this year’s flu vaccine is 36 percent effective, that’s not terrible news. Especially when, prior to this estimate, the CDC thought it might only be 10 percent, which is how effective this same vaccine was in Australia. It’s actually great news. In a season as severe as this one, any outcome that’s better than expected is cause for celebration.
And that’s not even the best part.
https://www.popsci.com/sites/popsci....lcpFR&fc=50,50
Though the vaccine is, yes, “only” 36 percent effective overall, it works far better for certain flu strains. The efficacy for H3N2—25 percent—brings down the average. We know that H3N2 is particularly hard to develop a good innoculation for, because it tends to accumulate mutations as it grows in eggs, which is how we make most flu vaccines. Those acquired mutations mean that the virus you end up with isn’t the same virus you started with, or the same virus that’s circulating. But we’re better at designing vaccines for other strains, like H1N1 and B viruses. This year’s efficacy for the B strain is 42 percent, and goes up to 67 percent for H1N1.
Tldr
Did I get the flu from the shot? No
Would I prefer shot or flu? Shot
Would I prefer shot or death? Shot
Would I prefer shot side effects every single year or take the chance,
which has been in my subjective scenario, 2 flu episodes out of 30
years? Meh, not sure.
I've been meaning to get back around this but have been kinda busy and
didn't want to try to yell over the vaxxer and antivaxxer pandemonium.
Now urine pandemonium?
I made the “no thanks” comment partly in jest although I haven’t had a
flu shot in a long time.
But I'm an open minded guy, and like science, and a few people threw
down some reasonable thoughts about it including: some superbad
strains going around, I'm getting older, and my mom is getting old
don’t want to get her sick, nieces and nephew all in school, so I
figured what the heck get a shot in the name of science and taking one
for the team and see what happens.
So I got a shot the evening of Friday January 19, as I don't generally
do a ton on the weekend and thought I would rest. Turns out it started
snowing, and that Sunday was a pretty decent powder day for what we've
had this year. I was certainly more tired, had a mild fever, and a
runny nose. No super big deal. I did have a fairly bad pain in the
shoulder. I probably could have relaxed my deltoid a bit more during
the shot, might have helped, but I think it was mainly the stuff in
the shot, as it didn't go away. It was fairly constant ache for two
weeks, and would amplify when picking up something heavy or poling
around on skis.
It subsided a bit after two weeks but would still send a jolt of pain
when tensing until just about a week ago, so probably 3 weeks total.
It's mostly gone now, but was super fucking annoying and starting to
get a bit worrisome as to why it was still there. I just scratched my
shoulder a minute ago and can still feel a burning below the skin,
certainly nothing like that on my other shoulder.
So the point of all this, is that the number of people that aren't
getting a shot, is probably higher than reported due to side effects.
I mean other than blathering on a ski forum, where would people be
talking about this? FB personal friends, etc. Probably not reporting
it. I would wager the number of people not getting a shot due to side
effects would be considerably higher than people with scary anti vaxx
theories.
It's kind of a pain in the arm, cost a little money, had to stand
around with sick people for an hour at pharm, don't usually get flu,
therefore not super compelled to get a shot. Will I do it next year?
Not sure.
I dunno but it sounds like more of a physical problem with the shot (hit a nerve or a tendon or something something)than a side effect of the vaccine. I understand that people's reactions to it vary, but 3 weeks? That seems kinda crazy when I didn't even have 10 minutes of pain/reaction. But what the hell do I know.
You should get it again next year to see if the results are consistent - i.e. if it's you. Because I've had shots for years, along with a lot of colleagues (at the mass company-innoculations) and nobody that I know of has ever had anything other than a slight discomfort at the shot location for, at most, an afternoon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rideski
If it *is* just you, science should study you. :D
Next year try drinking urine during the shot
no no...you have to put it in your eyes silly....Quote:
Originally Posted by mcski
As I posted earlier, I got the shot this year.
I still have not gotten the flu. Nor did I have any side effects from the shot.
Thanks for that update.
https://youtu.be/nWzmqe5bwf8
It's people like this that reinforce my mistrust of what we are told to believe.
Even though her grandson is autistic and she blames immunization (let's say she is wrong with that) everything else she is saying is alarming.
Hopefully one day a flu shot will be developed that doesn't cause concern or mistrust. With the aging population something better needs to be developed.
She was emotionally powerful, but factually empty and rambling. There is no evidence that vaccines cause autism. Vaccines are neither 100% effective nor 100% safe, but they save more lives and save more money in care than they cost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Satch
And it's primary benefit is not to the young and healthy. It's to stop spreading it to the more vulnerable.
Here's Frontlines take on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPOrnU3ImxI
What should alarm you is that there are a lot of health care workers--doctors, nurses, others--who believe the anti-vax bullshit. People without critical thinking skills who buy into conspiracy theories are responsible for your health. Next time you go to the doctor or the ER hope the people taking care of you aren't some of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny Satch
^^^ strongly agree with Old Goat
The claims that associate vaccines with autism have been proven false repeatedly in well designed studies. The guy that originally reported it admitted he falsified his data. Its bs.
Agreed that vaccines are not 100% effective and not without risks, but they are WAY better than the alternative... and probably safer than the ibuprofen you pop after a day on the slope... or the apres' for that matter.
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Vaccines are basically injectable seat belts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob D!
Yeah, but what about that one guy who was thrown from the car before it burst into flame? Not wearing a seatbelt saved his life. :rolleyes2Quote:
Originally Posted by Dantheman