Say what!? The future of freeride.
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Say what!? The future of freeride.
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Photos courtesy of Patco21. AK today...
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That's called Chugach Velvet, way more delicious than black velvet. Wish I could post pictures right.
I would do unforgivable things for that setupQuote:
Originally Posted by powder11
A welcome sight - PMGear Lhasa Pows on my feet and untracked pow below:
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A bonus powder day at Kirkwood on Monday, April 1, 2013 - no foolin'
Damn, just pressed the first pair of 186 Lhasa Fat last night.
Need that kind of snow to check the float...
Enjoying mine this season, solid ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by splat
here they are all wrapped in Lermoos pow keeping them well fed.
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Since Toby and Max love the 196 Lhasa with rocker, I decided the first pair of 186 Fats should be tried with rocker. powdork's gonna pick them up tomorrow and I'm gonna try to get him to throw some z12 or 120 demos on them for passing around.
Fat beside the regular Lhasa..
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^^^Crap iphone pic, so I snapped one when I got home.
150/122/130, hybrid, 4.6 lbs/2110 g per ski
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Next pair will have a little positive camber underfoot and a beefed up mount area for any additional torque the width might add on hardpack. I've rockered the 186 before and it tends to give up on hardpack what it gains in powder and vice versa. Pressed this pair on the Kusala block because the subtle reverse camber still tends to engage full length on edge on the Kusala. Hopefully, the tail won't be too loose. But that would be the shit in powder.
Two pairs are better than one:
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Chair 4, Kirkwood, April 5, 2013.
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The 186 fat looks schweettt!
Me on my 196 Lhasa Pows doing what they do best in the 7th Heaven trees at Blackcomb. Photo taken Monday by Jeff Boyce.
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Yesterday South San Juans CO
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I know it is the year of the Kusala but don't sleep on the Lhasa. With all the rocker profile variations Pat is putting out it is taking one of the most versatile skis out there and just tweaking them for the riders environment and needs.
Here is the double rocker profile of the 191 fats I got off Pat last year.
Tip
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And tail
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Took them out yesterday for the first time this season, just blew me away again how good they are at dealing with all snow types. No stoke pictures but was so stoked after the first decent day of the season that I felt compelled to post.
yay!!!!!!!!!!
pressing boundaries
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I have a lone 191 Lhasa of this vintage (broke the other). No takers on the single ski thread. Does anyone want a backup, or do I need to consummate my plan for a sweet shot-ski??Quote:
Originally Posted by MiCol
191 fat or 112mm version? Stock stiffness?Quote:
Originally Posted by meter-man
112, same top sheet as micol's (let me verify that), stock stiffness.
Here are the pics. I picked these up in March 2011 from Pat in Reno. Mounted with a large Duke EPF on the line for a 330 BSL. Edges are minty. Bases need a wax. I had maybe 25 days on them, but probably less. It was a blur of bro models for a while there...Quote:
Originally Posted by meter-man
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Bump...
Really happy to have my Lhasa's back.
I had a small delam issue on an older pair (first gen 191) that I noticed before it was too serious, towards end of last season.
Huge props to Splat for making them right for me again.
W00t, mounting them back up this afternoon, just in time for new snow!!!
Had a change of plans, and am now looking to acquire a lone 191 Lhasa. Thought I wanted to get rid of it, but then I broke another pair of skis this winter. Anyone have a lone 191 you would be willing to sell?Quote:
Originally Posted by meter-man
Thanks!
Want a pair of them?
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I do want to MAKE a pair of them. Want to sell just one of yours? :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by El Chupacabra
I'd prefer to find a mate, but we shall see what happens...thanks for the offer.
Bump. I still think the Lhasa Pow is one of the best skis for pure powder touring and tree skiing.
There has been conjecture about future of PM Gear being grim, but it'd be great to hear it directly. Any official word?
Talked to Pat yesterday. Looks like PM Gear is no more, at least for the foreseeable future. Was thinking about starting a RIP thread, but it's not my place.
Major bummer. Pat's a great guy - definitely made me a happy customer despite some QC issues - and his skis ruled.Quote:
Originally Posted by auvgeek
Sad news, but I guess I'm not surprised (not in a bad way, just in a reality of the world we live in way). Has to be super hard to make it as a small-time ski manufacturer. I'm surprised larger companies don't try to pick up the designers/creators/builders of the indie ski companies that don't make it, but that have a bit of a cult following, and have them create product lines/skis for them. Or, maybe I'm just flapping in the wind, there.Quote:
Originally Posted by auvgeek
That's a bummer. Guess my pair of Pats personal 191 Lhasa Fats will be a collectors item. Love that ski as well as the 187fats that I regret selling. I was also thinking of hitting pat up to do a skinnier 187 at 108 under foot with the same exact shape.
damn! always drooled over a pair. always on the lookout for a 179 tiprockered bro. All the best going forward Pat
I just got a pair (so can't help you there) and I am hard pressed to find anything with comparable dims/sidecut anywhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
Maybe, sort of, Down's new YW102L 179?
Damn, I had no idea that was ever made. That sounds like a nice ski - again, I wish the mount point was more forward, but a moot point now, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by mbillie1
+1 to that. Best of luck with any future endeavors.Quote:
Originally Posted by grinch
good comparison. also drooled over those and amazing prices on those downs atm. just not looking for light touring model. looking for something for on hill all mt type ski. I like the dims of both those just want something heavier/more damp. glass or hybrid wrap depending on skiQuote:
Originally Posted by mbillie1
Wtf? No more pm gear?!
I picked up one of the few pair of Bya's pressed in the Kusala mold. Lots of tip rocker, 1,810g, 96m underfoot, and some tail rocker. Should be a real nice soft snow touring stick, though I expect it to be on/off on hard groomers, if it ever sees any. Sad to hear the news about PMG.
Truly too bad to hear. Glad I stocked up on Lhasa's and Kusala. But how long will that last me? Hopefully this starts back up sometime in future
Selling any? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MiCol
Anybody got Big Bros they would like to part with?
hopefully Pat can use the McCartney quote "rumours of my demise have been greatly exaggerated"
Such a bummer. Dude makes phenominal skis. Dare I say the best ski layup out there, period? My guess is that they never got picked up because of the replication issue. Too expensive to replicate his process and materials. He always strove to bring the best materials he could find into the ski. The only one anywhere near the ballpark is Down skis, but their recent lineup is a bit off from what PM had - which has its good and bad sides. I always wanted to buy one or two more (based off what auvgeek, myself and others have been tossing around over the last year or so). Hopefully my pure Kusalas will last forever. Complete work of art both inside and out. Much love Pat - hope things are going well for you, my man!