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I had mine baked at the shop and they fit pretty dang well from day one.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickwm21
For the first week I would fill two 500ml water bottles with piping hot tap water and stuff one inside each liner while driving to the hill. That seemed to help really dial in the fit.
GoldenBC… I think I answer your questions in posts 256 & 264?
So the update…
Surgery went well and the patient is doing fine. You can see from the depression in the tongue material that there was room for improvement.
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Unfortunately it wasn’t enough and I had to attack the bootboards. Well, I Over Sent It just a bit. Milled from the midfoot forward until I got to a tolerable level of instep pressure. Took the setup out for a ski - okay, but not great and when I extricated myself from the shell outside in the cold, the bootboards broke into a bunch of pieces. These things are made of Le Sheit.
Subsequently skied without bootboards and what do you know! Super comfy with zero slop. The only detraction was the loss of some necessary ramp angle and that just won’t do in 2d snow. So I decided to build my own bootboards. A little wayz to go - hopefully the end result turns out the way I would like :~|
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How'd you fit the bottles in there with your feet? #drivewithyourbootsonQuote:
Originally Posted by gwat
Anyone using a Ski Boot Horn? Randomly saw someone using one with zips on an IG post. Kinda just looks like cutting board roll type material. I suppose I could just make my own. I think it would help quite a bit. Definitely takes a bit to get my heel in after smashing the liner into the boot in the parking lot.
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A little silicone spray in the boot - inside back of the cuff and where your toes hit the floor first and the boot horn. The material (polystyrene) is half the thickness of a throwaway cutting board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
8$ for factory 2nd's:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/11510091398...mis&media=COPY
but it's practically indestructible.
Used it with intuitions for six years before the zipfit
A strip of gorilla tape along the inside spine of your boot, plus a spritz of silicone spray, is all you need. Also saves you from needing to remember one more thing to bring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
I use a “Boot E-Z”. Hand crafted by Steve Bagley…
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Here is Steve's email address: sbrandonbagley@gmail.com
I sent an inquiry. I'll post if I get a reply.
The gorilla tape rolled up and smeared pretty quickly.
I’d suggest just calling Christy Sports at Snowbird.
https://www.snowbird.com/rental-and-...hristy-sports/
Yes. Makes it easy to get in and out and cuts down on friction damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Don't Surf
Ski a head raptor WCR 140S 27.5 sized down x2 for a nice snug fit. I have normal feet, and probably slightly skinny legs? I bought a gara LV one size up 28.5 as the 27.5 murdered my toes when I tried it on.
I’ve done 3 rounds of heating up/fitting and here is where I’m at:
1) to get the liner into the boot on foot, I need to warm up my liner, put it on and lace it up tight, and FORCE it in the shell.
2) to close the boot I have to CRANK it down on the lower 2 buckles, and then push the upper cuff together with my hands as I struggle to latch the buckles together and then CRANK those down as well.
3) at this point with the boot barely closed up, I flex the warm liner in the shell a bit and while I don’t have a specific paint point besides the top of my foot it just feels SUPER tight everywhere.
4) after 10 minutes of flexing and walking around my food is completely numb and starts to ache so I take off the boot.
I’m all for a little pain to get that magic zipfit lockdown but at this point I can’t fathom skiing more than one run before having to tear my boots off. Feels like it forcing things beyond what will be tolerable for the shell and foot I have.
Is this “normal” or should I consider the even lower volume liner the Corsa while I can still return the gara Lv’s.
Anyone have experience with one or the other (or both?) where it was this difficult/ painful to start?
I found lacing the liner up *tight* cut the circulation off. Lacing it up snugly, but not tight, was the proper move. Seems counterintuitive, but seemed to work best.
I'd probably go Corsa and order a bazillion omfit tubes. My feet are 278mm in 26 raptors, probably a pretty normal foot. Need sixth toe and bunion punches, but otherwise decently comfortable. Corsas in 27.5 with four tubes of cork in each. Dialed now.Quote:
Originally Posted by RadSkier_
Still think the cuff of the raptors is stupidly large volume, but I had to disregard everything ONK said about them.
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I'm in the same Raptor 25.5 (tight shell fit) and using the new Corsa 26.5.Quote:
Originally Posted by RadSkier_
I had the Zipfit World Cup Sidewinder model 25.5 in my previous shell, and it was great. When I picked up the Raptors, however, it didn't seem there was any way the WCSW would fit so I purchased the Corsa, also in a 25.5. Problem was it was quite a bit shorter than the WCSW, so I exchanged the 25.5 Corsa for a 26.5.
I have the combo of skinny ankles and big calves, and for me the Raptor/Corsa combo is a winner. It has taken a lot of playing around (adding, removing, moving cork), but each day they get better and better. Plus, I am a big proponent of the all-leather interior.
The Raptors are notorious for being a pia, but the performance makes them worth it for me. You might want to try the Corsa and it may solve all your problems.
Edited to add: Yeah, I have something like 5 tubes of OMFIT in each of my Corsas! Buy a bunch while they are in stock!
Have Corsa in my Raptors, I think 5 tubes each as well. Liner and shell sized the same. Might need to add a little more! That many tubes is pricey
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Ha, I finally did today. No way I was doing a parking lot bootup. And I survived to tell the tale! You may have me converted.Quote:
Originally Posted by waxman
I cant drive with my boots on, (forgetting safety, etc.) my legs and boots do not fit in the footwell of my vehicle. Instead I wear the liners, and have used shoe covers, like old men use for their dress shoes, to keep the liner protected. So far has worked like a charm.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwat
5 tubes!?!?!? In each boot!?!? That sounds so expensive hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by The Iron Horse
So, should I expect a huge change from initial fit to how they feel after 3 days in the corsa/raptor combo?
Going to pick up Corsas tonight at the ski shop and will do a home fitting. I really hope I can make one of the liners work - I want in on that zipfit bliss!
It took me eight days to begin to find boot Nirvana.
The first three were so painful I almost quit the course.
Soon happy I finally got them dialed.
Boothorn works great; don't waste time trying to make one yourself out of gallon jugs, etc. they aren't as slippery . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom_Guardian
I highly recommend shortening the break-in time by wearing them around the house after you do the initial fit process. If you have sole covers, great, you can just walk around and do your normal stuff. My feet tend to blister easily whenever I change to a new shoe, so this avoids that issue for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by RadSkier_
I'd say three days is normal for that "Aha!" feeling. After that, I think they just keep improving, eventually reaching the point where they disappear and you just don't think about them anymore.
What are you guys paying for tubes of cork at a shop? What do you pay for fitting the liner and and having more cork installed if you bought it at a store?
Sounds like it’s a lot more expensive than we do it. Haha
About $7usd/tube. In Norway, importing from Denmark.
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Fitted the liner myself, bought all the tubes from Zipfit. Full freight.
Do my own liner fitting (shells are done by the pro) and buy the OMFIT direct from Zipfit. Their stock tends to wax and wane, so I keep some extra tubes on hand.
I do have a bunch of empties I need to do something with. Perhaps someone is looking to cook up their own formula and needs some tubes. Or I guess I should write to Zipfit and see if they want to reuse them.