Everything after gen 2 was blah other than the CRX.Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
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Everything after gen 2 was blah other than the CRX.Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
This seems like intentionally self defeating logic. Having a warranty protects risk but ensures heavy depreciation - assuming you don't have a highly collectible model (which would then be unfit as a daily driver).Quote:
Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw
You could easily buy a clean restomod for $60-80k and use the saved 20-40k for trips to the auto spa, which may not even be needed if the build is proper.
Not that I'm aware of... A good 964 C4 coupe starter is $60+K. The full rebuild/service is ~$20+k, and then we get on to replacing the 30 year old wear items. Where I live, that old Porsche would be a nonstop headache. Edit to add - when I started thinking about a 964, they weren't $60+k cars. Throws the whole idea out of whack. It was a different story when you could buy one for $20k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bromontana
There's a clean 993 C2 for sale on Rennlist for 42k. Bobby Stainless probably has a better feel on pricing than me, but I think you're overestimating the burden of ownership and/or total cost of onwership.
Of course, you could always just buy his 930 turbo for a buck & change
^ Looking at Rennlist, prices might have come down a little... Looks like a decent C4 (no S) is probably down to $50-60k. All told, still looking at $25-40K in restoration, especially on a pre-91 car. There are some post-restoration cars for sale in the mid 70's - but while many detail the engine out rebuild, few mention doing all the seals, gaskets, lines, etc... Getting a 964 into shape for weekend driving and leisurely repair is one thing. Getting one into shape to achieve like new/daily driver reliability, including navigating a few miles of dirt road to and from the house each day is another story. We live among some fantastic sports car roads, but it's still a 3.5 mile drive until I hit pavement. But you are correct that some of this logic is self-defeatist... I'm not looking for the exception to the rule, and I'm not trying to convince myself that it will be any less expensive under some unusual set of circumstances. The one idea I've kicked around is buying a small lot in Empire or Georgetown or something and keeping the car garaged down there. Would eliminate a lot of the wear and tear, and while it wouldn't be much cheaper, it might flatten out the TCO a little, and keep the car in better shape.
STFU, re: 991 vs. previous 911s, you are really selling yourself short overlooking 996s and 997s. I've had both and compared to my Dad's 991 both are astoundingly smaller, more 'flick-able', and raw. The 991 is a luxury sports car. You can get into a 996 or 997 for relatively easy money. (and I'll stop you before you say IMS - it's hardly as widespread as us forum geeks would like to echo and easily remedied). But that's just me.
Also, I don't know where to put this but it deserves to be somewhere:
I spent an afternoon driving a low mileage 996TT right after I bought the golf R... Didn't do it for me. I could see a 997.2... But it would still be answering a different question...
Which begs the question...
What's wrong with you?
;)
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Originally Posted by Alaskan Rover
Assuming you wouldn't blast it into the guardrail on the first corner (which is a tall assumption)
As much as we like to dream, an F1 car has more in common with an ICMB than a car. They don't do anything like a car except roll on rubber and have a steering wheel.
In the right hands nobody could stop it. In the wrong hands it wouldn't get out of the garage. If they did they could count on *pages* of creative writing in citations though haha
That said, a 991 C2S tracks faster than a 997 GT3 and a 997 Turbo.Quote:
Originally Posted by BmillsSkier
Manual 2013 C4S, with 400hp. I bet this car would sell in the high 60s. This is what stfu needs, not a project 964. The idea is more romantic, than the finished result.
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/700482497/overview/
https://www.cstatic-images.com/super...d176efc990.jpg
^ Has porsche made a 991 C4 (narrow body)? I seem to think not, but if I'm wrong, I don't know if I could resist...
the 996 didn't have a real visual 'punch'. IMO the 997 GTS is the nicest 'stock' trim, and alcantara seats were more common which is a win.
That's a little disappointing... Those pics don't seem to show the subtle grace of the older narrow body lines.. I'm looking for some more pics. Those don't seem to do the car justice. Price and condition are spot on though! With a warranty out to 100k... Would just need to average 30k/year to fit it all it... That'd be a real bummer... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Beer Drinker
https://www.agsformule1.com/en/drivi...rses/formula1/Quote:
Originally Posted by DoWork
^bucket list has been updated
Would be fun, but I am sticking to my dream of a week of heli skiing someday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bromontana
Not a big fan of blue cars, but this sure was perdy.
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Oh look, it's not a 99x
Sport Turismo Turbo. Wagon stoke cometh. Imo this will hurt the Panamera.
I hope they do a Turbo S E-Hybrid with 680hp.
https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/ima...r-112539_1.jpg
Hurt as in I'm buying that over a regular Panamera?
Yeah. I think most will.
Im confused as to why Porsche would build a car like that, so similar to a Panamera.
Maybe to phase out Panamera, since it's their slowest selling car.
GT2 RS
https://storage.googleapis.com/gtspi...1-GT2-RS-7.jpg
https://storage.googleapis.com/gtspi...1-GT2-RS-5.jpg
Ded sexy profile. Want to touch the paddles
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