2023 PGA

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Originally Posted by BmillsSkier

I doubt it. If video supporting the arrest report narrative exists, and not simply of an interview in the moments he's being arrested, it would have been produced prior to the dismissal.

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I'm not saying there's video of the incident. But if there's video of Scottie saying when questioned (edited)

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"Scheffler acknowledged to the officer that he "should've stopped. I did get a little impatient because I'm quite late for my tee time."

Scheffler said on the recording that his window was down and he heard a person yelling for him to stop, although he didn't know it was a police officer.

"As he was reaching the car, he grabbed my shoulder and hit me," Scheffler said. "It seemed to be a little overaggressive because the entrance was open." He said he pulled away a little "because I thought he was going to start hitting me."

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It mildly changes the possibilities of what happened in the part we can't see. Or maybe not. I'm not saying Scottie is a lying at fault db, I'm just saying maybe the officer isn't as bad as it seemed at first, maybe it was just a really bad misunderstanding. Or maybe the officer still is a lying db, I don't know.

I heard the exchange Scottie had and it sounded like someone who basically figured it was just a misunderstanding and they’d move along with their days. He’s not gonna be like fuck you pig! He was just being polite in that way where you don’t really agree with someone but just want to move on.

Cop officially reprimanded for not having body cam on

So in my opinion cop disciplined for lying - nobody or any film footage to back up his story.


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Congrats to Rory for resolving things with the wife and calling off the divorce.


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^^cheaper in the long run.

Mike Whan is a great leader for the USGA. He grew the LPGA exponentially.

He knew not to make Pinehurst insurmountable and look at that leaderboard..

Mcilroy, Avery, and Dechambeau. Identifying the best players.

Breathe of fresh air after that dope Mike Davis almost ruined the championship with his ridiculous setups.

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Originally Posted by stealurface831

Congrats to Rory for resolving things with the wife and calling off the divorce.

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Give it a few months and we’ll see. Been there, done that.

Not watching yet, but hope somebody makes a run at Bryce today to make it more interesting.

These barely missed putts...

Fuck bone saw DeChambeau. That is all.

Lucky, lucky, lucky...and some amazing shots. You don't miss 9 fairways and get that lucky very often

Luck, sometimes and particularly in golf, is preparation + opportunity. He wouldn’t have pulled off recovery after recovery w/o face of club with the right direction and force.


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The missed short putts [emoji33]

Of all the recent major champions nobody is close to Tiger's consistent finishing capabilities. He was next level in his prime.

suprising usa chants............suprising the support bryson was getting - for a guy who's salary is saudi based. short memory.

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Originally Posted by irul&ublo

Luck, sometimes and particularly in golf, is preparation + opportunity. He wouldn’t have pulled off recovery after recovery w/o face of club with the right direction and force.


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This is my point. The rough was brutal. If anyone hit 9 balls in there, the chances of getting the club on the back of the ball 8 times again, would be very low

Rory’s reaction to leave without talking to media said a lot. He choked those short putts. Had a chance to post a score and put even more pressure on DeChambeau and blew it.

DeChambeau got lucky in the waste areas and also hit some amazing shots. Took enough advantage of his opportunities to win.



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I’m a big Rory fan and I am surprised he left so quickly

I empathize - tough loss - hard to say to world press you blew it - but that is what people expect


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Originally Posted by cinnepa

suprising usa chants............suprising the support bryson was getting - for a guy who's salary is saudi based. short memory.

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I was hoping somebody would start changing "Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia"... can't stand those USA chants anyway.

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Originally Posted by yeahman

I was hoping somebody would start changing "Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia"... can't stand those USA chants anyway.

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Yeah. Bunch a tools.

A Ryder Cup it fits the narrative, but I'm still not going to shouting it.

I like dumbo.
The guys out playing his buddies with Jr club the week before a major (pga) hickory shafted clubs the week before the us open. If he was a member of the pga tour he would not be allowed to do that kind of stuff, without permission.
Why be a member of an organization that restricts your ability to create a brand on your own terms.
I love to watch Rory play golf, the second coming of Weiskof(sp) , all the talent in the world, just seems to be missing that intangible thing that could put him there with Tiger and Jack.


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Originally Posted by skiballs

I like dumbo.
The guys out playing his buddies with Jr club the week before a major (pga) hickory shafted clubs the week before the us open. If he was a member of the pga tour he would not be allowed to do that kind of stuff, without permission.
Why be a member of an organization that restricts your ability to create a brand on your own terms.

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What are you talking about? There’s literally nothing in the tour terms about this or anything like it, at all.

PGA has made mistakes for sure, but let’s not make stuff up. I just hope at some point they can figure this all out because LIV’s tournament format sucks balls. I tried again and it’s just not good.

Weren’t the first guys that wanted to play liv events denied permission to play those events and subsequently suspended from the pga tour for doing something golf related without permission?


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I’m not going to argue with someone being intentionally obtuse…

I haven't looked and don't know if its public knowledge, but is the liv tour actually making money? I don't know one person that watches it or likes the format.

You don’t get the excitement of yesterday with the LIV format.

Or any other shotgun scramble filled with dudes lubed up on swing oil by 10am for that matter.

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Originally Posted by jackstraw

I haven't looked and don't know if its public knowledge, but is the liv tour actually making money? I don't know one person that watches it or likes the format.

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Well, they’re literally well over a billion dollars in the red, so…

But if you want to put aside the money they paid to bring players over, well in that case they are… still not even close to profitable. You need real TV money and big time sponsors to cover those purses. I’m starting to think the PGA’s new strategy is to simply wait them out and see how much money the Saudis want to burn on this thing. I don’t know any serious golf fans who like the LIV format.

It’s been over a year now since the “merger” and negotiations started.

Talk about obtuse, couple billion to the Saudi’s is pocket change. The Saudi sports ventures are marketing campaigns. How much does Fedex spend on golf sponsorship? The Saudi marketing budget is orders of magnitude larger than some delivery service.


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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

Well, they’re literally well over a billion dollars in the red, so…

But if you want to put aside the money they paid to bring players over, well in that case they are… still not even close to profitable. You need real TV money and big time sponsors to cover those purses. I’m starting to think the PGA’s new strategy is to simply wait them out and see how much money the Saudis want to burn on this thing. I don’t know any serious golf fans who like the LIV format.

It’s been over a year now since the “merger” and negotiations started.

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I've never seen a LIV tournament, and have no plans to try and find one
This brings back bad memories of Indy Car vs CART. Neither one really wins

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Originally Posted by skiballs

Talk about obtuse, couple billion to the Saudi’s is pocket change. The Saudi sports ventures are marketing campaigns. How much does Fedex spend on golf sponsorship? The Saudi marketing budget is orders of magnitude larger than some delivery service.

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marketing for what? don't really matter i guess as it is an abject failure any way you cut it.

Regime PR. Happy Smiling faces to obscure the terrorism and public enemy dismemberments

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Originally Posted by mcski

Regime PR. Happy Smiling faces to obscure the terrorism and public enemy dismemberments

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and again, a failing effort.

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Originally Posted by skiballs

Talk about obtuse, couple billion to the Saudi’s is pocket change. The Saudi sports ventures are marketing campaigns. How much does Fedex spend on golf sponsorship? The Saudi marketing budget is orders of magnitude larger than some delivery service.


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If a shitty golf tournament falls in the forest and there’s no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

If a shitty golf tournament falls in the forest and there’s no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?

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Yes. FORE!!


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Heading to my first PGA event Friday at Travelers - just "grounds" admission - Gonna play 9 early at local course then head over to TPC Cromwell solo - and wander around with a drink(s) while rocking my Swirlo - see what I see and just be "not at work" - till the PM storms come :(

Shhh....dont tell Mrs P-Dawg...

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Originally Posted by TahoeJ

If a shitty golf tournament falls in the forest and there’s no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?

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Liv golf, in a golf tournament sense, is a complete joke. I’ve never watched it and never will. I’m old school as it gets. But to say that the PGA didn’t place restrictions on members regarding where and when they could play, for money, is just not correct.
For the run of the mill tour pro it doesn’t matter that much, but for the big name international guys it’s not that great a deal.


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Originally Posted by skiballs

Liv golf, in a golf tournament sense, is a complete joke. I’ve never watched it and never will. I’m old school as it gets. But to say that the PGA didn’t place restrictions on members regarding where and when they could play, for money, is just not correct.
For the run of the mill tour pro it doesn’t matter that much, but for the big name international guys it’s not that great a deal.

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Your example of what Bryson did the week before is my point - the PGA would have been fine with that. The only time they've denied players access to other events is when a competing tour trying to disrupt their entire business model showed up. You do realize those WGC events that most of the top guys play in are not under their umbrella, right?

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Originally Posted by pepperdawg

Heading to my first PGA event Friday at Travelers - just "grounds" admission - Gonna play 9 early at local course then head over to TPC Cromwell solo - and wander around with a drink(s) while rocking my Swirlo - see what I see and just be "not at work" - till the PM storms come :(

Shhh....dont tell Mrs P-Dawg...

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put your anti sweating your balls off attire on

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Originally Posted by skiballs

Liv golf, in a golf tournament sense, is a complete joke. I’ve never watched it and never will. I’m old school as it gets. But to say that the PGA didn’t place restrictions on members regarding where and when they could play, for money, is just not correct.
For the run of the mill tour pro it doesn’t matter that much, but for the big name international guys it’s not that great a deal.


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the pga is a joke too. travelers is the 8th signature event this year, 8th event where no one but the top players are allowed and they are playing for more money than the non signature events and who approved this to be started ? the pga players who already made it to the top. they shut out all sorts of season long chances for a guy to have one hot week and change his life forever.
i grant that liv isn't the same game as a pga 72 hole course and that liv isnt on the same level as the pga backed by the saudis and no indication that is has a lot a charitable outreach, but the pga and its top players that now have the control of the pga are just as greedy as the liv guys. that they have the best interests of the tour is laughable.

ok, off soapbox.

if i'm tom or scottie, i'm taking the putter to one of those fuckers.

good job by tom to get to a playoff. scottie is not tiger but a lot of guys have been tied with scottie and fallen off and then scottie wins it. there's gotta be some pressure to beat scottie in 2024 more than anyone else.