got kooky and decided to break out the new mojo. s facing black bess surfed like a dream and for once, no rocks. wind always making its presence known
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got kooky and decided to break out the new mojo. s facing black bess surfed like a dream and for once, no rocks. wind always making its presence known
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Here here. I have gotten fat and unfit. My mindset is pretty poor right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFugitive
Well played, Sir. The last 48 hours have been as instrumental in the lower elevation snow pack as the rest of the winter combined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirshredalot
Merry Christmas everyone. With all that warm, all that (at least for this winter) water equivalent, and the freeze which is following, have fun up to 9k or so tomorrow. Pushing it above should depend on experience and exposure.
Two edged sword on this one...fun tomorrow, but now gonna take a lot of water weight and / or warming temps to tickle this faceted, bridged, lower elveation monster later; if that happens... (and let's hope it does, for that means we're getting snow / water), avalanches will be large and unpredictable below ? elevation.
Jury is out on upper elevation. Dial it back above a good freeze. Have fun y'all.
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Oh man this song has resonated with me lately. 6/8/77 is about as good as it getsQuote:
Originally Posted by telefreewasatch
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Somebody told me its SAD seasonal affected disorder " that time of year ". Maybe there is something to it but I dunno. This one has been a booger bear. I went skiing tonight at brighton it was good. Making plans to talk a walk this weekend with good peeps. Performing a BIGLY cull on my facebook feed. Gonna turn the corner on that motherfucker 2017 by hook or by crook. Lets go ski sometime man! [emoji472]Quote:
Originally Posted by Skirotica
Keep your tips up yall the struggle is real...
lemme know the wife and i will be gettin out for a walk up greens or sumthin this weekend
despite the "monsters in the basement" piss poor catchword hype that every pro and wanna be seems to love overusing
poor snowpack structure and increased loads doesnt change terrain
never will
them dragons jumped outta the dungeons and onto sfotexs new $149 rock skis
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full bore winter for a while yesterday morn
elevation was your friend summit headwalls skied creamy dreamy great
conversely postcard at noon was a gloppy poorly shaped mougaled mess
didn't suck to ski pow
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It was good day for sure
Did we talk? We're you on GW or Milly? I I correctly acosted someone for being too high on GW. Turns out I don't know ow my map that well.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFugitive
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Maybe? When was it? Im always generally maybe a little too high when Im skiing at brightom lol. Black helmet green or blue gucci jacket. On3P fishsticks or black gotamas. If you have a brighton pass lets link up!
Sorry, lat night, about 5 on Needle. He was going up, i was going down. He had radical bindings and dark jacket i assumed was black. I was blue pants and yellow top. we chatted a bit about Utah Skimo. Must not have been you because i mentioned the Xmas poach last year and he wasn't aware.
No Brighton pass. But i heard they sell day passes.
Not me but I have had similar convo but last season. I used to night tour at the B a bunch and then "the incident" happened on millie and brighton shut down uphill to a little wedge of access at the lower end of gw. Maybe thats changed and you can run it to the top of the lift at GW? Man thatd be sweet!Quote:
Originally Posted by Skirotica
^ nah just to the top of golden needle. they got pretty uptight about it if you ask me, which sucks this season as shit like beartrap is still not in...
Saw a pic of mid Cirque at bird from yesterday it went big. I'd say it was about half of the mid Cirque itself. Be safe out there
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So what's the best bang for your buck up there, and protocol for not getting yelled at by the cat driver? Went up Milly side - stayed off to the edge, but didn't think about it at the top ( twin lakes dam ) and skied the new cord on the way down. Got charged by the cat and a "stay the F%$@ off my groomer" at the bottom. I was stopped way off to the side (not on the groomer, but over by the trees at the base) and he charged me in the piston bully. it was just a touch scary. I guess stay off the groomers?Quote:
Originally Posted by mbillie1
Is the hike longer on the GW side? Seemed like maybe not.
I definitely get the cat drivers don't want idiots like me out there while they are trying to do their job - it could be dangerous. Would you pay for the privilege of after hours uphilling? I might. Maybe. But probably not. I'm pretty cheap.
You too? I thought we were the only ones [emoji43]Quote:
Originally Posted by slcpunk
Seriously after all the complaints theyve had about cat driver on millie I cannot believe this is still happening. If I didnt have a pass I would pay 5 american pesos for the priviliege of getting some excersize on my public land if they had a designated GW and Millie route without fear for assault by a bent employee driving a multi-ton 1000hp vehicle. Maybe someone should helmet cam the next assault? As a passholder fck them I already paid.
If anyone is headed up there today I would be stoked to make turns with some new folks. Black helmet and pants. Green gucci jacket. Black gotamas or billygoat fishysticks. Ask for change.
the gw uphill zone is short, I think < 1k’ to the top of golden needle, though I’ve never been accosted on that side of things. it’s mostly just (imo) good for fitness type laps when you’re bored and solo and basically nothing else is in, or it’s dark and you want to descend something extremely predictable. when I go I try to follow their protocol, park at the brighton store and walk the road toward GW, I usually start skinning in that open field a couple hundred feet before the lift, and stay as much along the ridgeline as possible (in other words not skinning up the groomers), it's somewhat better exercise anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by slcpunk
I might pay for inbounds uphill but not with Brighton’s recent policy changes. for now I think it’s worth dealing with the lcc traffic to ski in grizz cuz at least you can get a relatively safe 1500’ or so (or even 1200 if you just wanna ski the summer road, cat track not in yet btw, and watch out for the n-facing stuff above you in places), though going solo at dark depends on how comfortable you are with the area.
IF some resort had a ~$200 season uphill pass and a policy like snowbasin or steamboat I would probably pay it just for weekdays in the dark but it seems like the demand isn’t there or they aren’t listening. it’s all moot once we get a real base, usually this is a non-issue after thanksgiving. this year just blows.
in somewhat surprising and possibly cause-for-cautious-optimism news on the resort uphill policy front, Solitude is hosting 2 of Utah Skimo's races this season. turnouts have been pretty good so far this year, probably helped in no small part by the low tide, maybe this makes an impact on Solitude's draconian attitude toward uphill travel
Hey thanks for the info. I thought about Grizz, was a bit leery of the avy conditions, like you said: solo, dark. Not convinced because its a road its all protected ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mbillie1
Agreed - it really doesn't matter if we have a solid base and can get around other places. Right now the only snow is >9000 and not south facing eesh.
Even $200 seems like a lot. I only pay $85/year to skate at mountain dell, its open 24/7 snow permitting - they groom every day ...
honestly that sounds more fun than most of the 7 or 8 days I've had so far. might be time to buy a skate kitQuote:
Originally Posted by slcpunk
naaaa, you just need a good powder day.... sans rocks : )Quote:
Originally Posted by mbillie1
early start > spruces-reynolds-tom's. trace of snow, low 30's with some wind. definite difference in snow below 9k, more dust on crust-like while below 9400k rode better but could feel the snowed had warmed yesterday. not bad turns.
hope the mrs is all good. friend who works at the bird got hit twice last sunday and again the other day. seem to be hearing more of these incidents this year. be careful this weekend. peeps gonna be out in full force. keep telling the kids, heads on swivels!Quote:
Originally Posted by skifishbum
I got yelled at last night by the crabby groomer on GW. Some night skiers cut over and skied the fresh groomers while I was on the way up, crabby dickhead thought it was me and stopped to yell at me. Got to the top of needle and saw like 2 parties of 4 or five each headed higher in non stealth mode...getting worried Brighton is going to shut it all down soon....
^ weak but not surprising, inconsiderate poachers is why the top of GW is no bueno right?
kills me cuz you can just hike the ridge like 5’ from the fuckin boundary rope and not ruin things for the rest of us... or lap golden needle down... or hike 10420 and cross the ridge and descend... ehhhhhh
some cottonwood resort needs to step up with an uphill policy + pass and make this bs go away. warmer winters and higher snow/rain lines won’t help.
$200??!? Just so I can hike on public lands?! GTFO here with that bullshit, I started backcountry skiing because ski passes were breaking the $500 mark....Quote:
Originally Posted by mbillie1
Honestly, I get the safety issue but I think if you're operating on public lands you should be obligated to provide a safe uphill route. Alta completely shuts people off a huge chunk of some of the most popular land in the nation's most popular National Forest. I get that any plan would likely get nixed after people failed to follow the rules though, which seems inevitable.
I think demand is there, just not at that price point. It's also not a high priority for a business to implement a plan to give people the ability to steal your product. That said, I would wager ~25-50 people have been uphilling every morning I've ran up pcmr this year. "If you build it(allow it) they will come"
I'll bet most mornings at Snowbasin have anywhere from 25-75 people skinning up. I've done it once this year and while I was skiing the designated route down I caught up to the cats and had to weave amongst them to get around. I'm kind of surprised that they are ok with that but they don't say anything to anyone.
Yeah, it’d be far better if more resorts just had a steamboat-like policy, I just don’t see it happening short term. I guess $200 is kind of a ridiculous number though lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by BRUTAH
Going forward the resort with the friendliest uphill policy will get my pass $, even if that means driving to Snowbasin (which seems like the case right now)
Be safe out there. from UAC
Two unintentionally triggered slides already today. One triggered from above, the other from below. No one caught. Grizzly Gulch and Snake Creek. Heads up people!
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Early start into willows bowl. 15 deg at the trailhead. No pits dug but plenty of stomping, poking and handies (typical friday night at bunnies) showed a mix bag of pow, slabs, facets and shit that was different every 5 feet. Upper willow was not to bad surfy creamy surface hor shhhhhhhhhhhh turns. Mid bowl it changed up and started getting slabby and reactive with shooting cracks. We dialed back the angles and avoided the rollovers. Exit is still pretty thin and character building but all in all a great walk in the mtns! Sorry I missed you cat!
Whorez make me happy
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No go zone is loaded
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Skintrackstoke
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^^^nice
def a pretty day to get out n tour
rolled up with sfotex n mr toaster for soli skier compaction duties fri hopin for egp or hwy winds nuked that
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u dogs are stayin in the yard
solbirights to back yard bugaloos skied good
rolled up sillyfork with the mrs
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reported for skier compaction duty atop west bowl with the rest of the troops
spun a lap 2 tp and down cabin
north facin sheltered skied best
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not a lot of in yo face instabilities
some collapses
and
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#shootingcracksskitips
#basalmeaniesabound
#bbispanseredbrandambassabro
y’all missed some good turns in idaho but I’m stoked that silly fizzle is firing on at least a couple cylinders
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^ totally see this all going away some point soon. shame because its all pretty clear. brighton instituted an uphill policy last year. park at cafe, check traffic light for daily uphill permissions, tour up lost maid or easy out. that's it. shit ain't hard. variations to that is when the problems begin. was there early season 3/4 days and saw a few downright dangerous situations. surprised by the numbers identified below and with that much traffic, its only a matter of time before there will be a bad accident.Quote:
Originally Posted by sfotex
- "I would wager ~25-50 people have been uphilling every morning I've ran up pcmr this year."
- "I'll bet most mornings at Snowbasin have anywhere from 25-75 people skinning up."
so let me get this straight. i could purchase a ticket tomorrow at pc (current online rate: $132), and there could be upwards of 50 tracks on a run by 9am? pretty sure i don't want solitude to ever allow uphill traffic if that's the case.
I follow this thread because I live in N California and I'm fascinated by the weird bubble you guys exist in, in terms of a general ski culture as well as a snowpack perspective. On all fronts it's constantly me looking at the screen, reading the comments about all the above mentioned, and thinking "Fuck. Wow."
I mean, I get it. I love skiing out there and when you hit it right there's nothing else like it, but you guys put up with A LOT of bs day in and day out to get to that point of risk/ reward ratio farvoring you on the backside. No judgement. We all have our complexities and variables which shape our time in "the mountains" but most of it just makes me want to move to some remote corner of the world with less people.
Sure, whatever you say. Definitely disseminate that perspective as widely as possible, please.
Does it typically bother you that the groomers have tracks on them? Because people skiing at Snowbasin are required to stay on one groomer. Up and down.Quote:
Originally Posted by getoutside
Why don’t you just move back?Quote:
Originally Posted by glademaster
I tried to follow this. I really did. You can do better, we believe in you.Quote:
Originally Posted by dblatto
bwahahaha crying about 50 tracks on a single run. Shit, most runs at solitude have 50 tracks down them by 930 am anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by getoutside
you get one run at park city to uphill and the ski back down, technically. And its Home Run, a "steep" green run. though plenty people ski Teasure Hollow, an equally steep blue run. and you can only go 1200 vertical feet up to the angle station. but don't you worry, its easy to get multiple runs in before the 830 am cut off time :the_finge: They're runs most people only ski as they're heading down at the end of the day. I grew up skiing PCMR and didn't know which was which until I started uphilling this season. So it's not like vail is giving away the mountain. Its a nice gesture to a growing trend in skiing. And i hope more ski areas and resorts start allowing it.
I was also thinking about the charging for uphilling at resorts and how difficult that would be. the most popular time is around dawn I would say in my experience, so you would need to staff people super early and then when people are hiking to get up, you can basically access a mountain from thousands of points. its the same with mountain biking, you charge for the lifts but most places let you ride uphill on your own if you'd like.
if any of you jokers wants to hike some laps and drink some beers Tuesday night, there’s a race at Brighton... I’ll be there early and late.
Working on it, thanks for asking! But all joking aside, I will sing the praises of this area to all who will listen because it is a fantastic destination, and if they come here, they won't be where I am. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shredhead
doesn't bother me b/c i'm not all about groomers. but if i was, and i paid $132 for a ticket, that might bring me down a bit...Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
Try snowbird. Sometimes there are 3-4 trams of black pass holders or 'industry friends' tracking out the snow while you have been in the tram line for an hour before the mountain opens. And it's not groomers. You can watch them ski while you are taking the '1st' tram up. For $129.Quote:
Originally Posted by getoutside
Or you are still buying tickets while they ski, and then tram line fills up without you as they don't open ticket sales until 8 or 8:30am.
Seems like all the reports this year end with "but it was a great day to walk in the mountains!" Ha.