check out some of the novaform (costco line)...their return policy is second to none and some of those mattresses get good reviews. I mean jesus costco gave a lady her money back when she returned a dead xmas tree in January....
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If only Costco still took Amex. I want to get the miles and their buyer protection is nice
Been very happy with king Caspars. Never felt hot and they are pretty firm. I can't stand a soft mattress, they kill my back, I've never had that wit the Caspars. The ones we got are now their mid-line models, they introduced a higher-end version but no idea what that means to the user.
In the bed market myself. I noticed the current CR in Safeway last night was the mattress issue. Paged through it and none of the really expensive mattress were tested. Most were under 2k.
Don't remember much of the test results other than "Sleep on Latex" was a brand I needed to check out. Anyone have experience with them?
Lets put it this way. Just my take, but walking through Target yesterday and they were setting up an entire display for Casper beds...being sold in Target seems like a death knell to me...just saying. The display was going to take up a decent amount of floor space. They had the $65 pillows out on display.
I was in the Casper retail store in cherry creek this week. They don't have the low end target bed there. Nobody in the store has ever laid on one either, I was told they are a super soft IKEA/4 year college student bed.
The two (they had 3 but you could only lay on 2) they had in the store were fine but they don't tell you whats in them because its lower end stuff. They sold tea, pillows, 400 count sheets(the guy lied and said anything over 400 thread count wouldn't breathe), pillows, a comforter, cashmere blankets, a magazine and pet beds. I liked the cover on the nicer bed but the cheaper one zipped off better. I didn't feel much difference between the two.
Ended up going for Casper because we had a coupon, and their 100 day return policy made it an easy risk.
After about 3 weeks we are really happy with it. So much better than what we had before. I noticed that I'm not really tossing and turning in the night like I was before.
Casper is a low end line. For the less money you can get a costco mattress or something better for the same price.
In the short run (2-6 years before you get a dent) you will like it but they use mostly cheap polyurethane. The wave is better long term but for $2k there are better designs and material builds.
Mattress shopping is hard. Im looking at Sealy Conform High Spirits on Thursday, I have no clue.
The less they tell you whats in them, them the bigger the scam.
Polyurethane is bad.
Gel foam and latex are way better. I like energex foam at about 2-3 pounds under a latex layer.
Lay on one and see if you like it.
I got one I could swap the layers on and change the feel. My back feels weird now and then from constant crashes and I like to mix things up.
I also got one I could trade out the top cover if the dog eats it or something.
We bought two Sealy king sized mattresses for our condo a few months ago. I think that we got the Grand Lake model from AFW. I wanna say they were around $1100 maybe? Bought with bed frames and delivered. Super easy. Slept on the mattress a few times, and they are really comfortable. Firm but not too firm. We rent the condo out and everyone who's stayed there has raved about the beds too.
I still don't trust all these memory foam beds that they won't break down super fast and most cost about as much as a traditional spring mattress. I've heard that foam mattresses might not perform as well at altitude.
Still loving my Beauty Rest Black (middle model of 5) after 5 years and my guests rave about the Englander in the spare room (I think it's the second to the top of the line but I bought it 8 years ago). Englanders are made in Portland Oregon FWIW.
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What? Diamond dust? Special mattress cover? <cornfused>
It's an innerspring mattress. Looking at their web page (BTW it's all one word "Beautyrest" not two words like I typed earlier) it looks like they have quite a few more in the line-up or maybe the place I shopped only carried 5. Anyhoo.... I know it's a "luxury firm" and it's not a pillow top. I paid around $1200 5 years ago in Oregon. Even if I remembered the model name I don't think that would help because I've read that each retailer uses their own unique name so as to avoid price shopping.
FWIW way back in this thread, somewhere in the first 5 pages, there is a mag who sells or did sell mattresses and he swore by his Beautyrest Black. It was was the one he chose out of everything he sold. That is the reason I even looked at it. I spent the better part of 2 weeks mattress shopping. Even brought my own pillow so I could really give it a good try. I had horrible back pain from my old mattress but since getting my Beautyrest pain is gone!
Note: Salesman told me once I got the mattress to walk on it to help break it in and I would recommend this too. The new mattress was a lot firmer than the one I tried in the show room.
Re: Mattress cover in addition to fitted sheet and mattress pad: it's a nice idea. It will keep dander, sweat and body oils out of your mattress and should you or a pet have an accident your mattress is protected. I do have a protective cover, which is like a fitted sheet, on my guest bed. It goes against the mattress under the mattress pad. You just never know...........
Edit: Well looking at first page of this thread I see I posted my model was the Camille and I bought it in 2013.
Here is the original mattress thread: https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...light=mattress
Montanaskier was the mag. Here's his shop, if he/it is still there:
Sleep Shop of Eagle County
525 Mcgregor Dr # C
Eagle, CO 81631
(970) 337-5337
sleepshopvailvalley.com
Montanaskier no longer owns a shop, but he's still in the business I believe, certainly a better source of info than the average used car, I mean mattress, sales person.
i bought that zinus green tea mattress that was the recommended budget line in several reports. couldn’t be happier, sleeping really well although there is a faint plastic smell still after a month. their bed kicks ass too if anyone is looking for a cool simple metal frame.
The one TB12 sleeps on.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b016f37896bc91
Bump this up.
We are in the market for an ADJUSTABLE mattress and frame. Probably looking at two twins so that we can adjust independently.
What are some of the better, more reliable brands for adjustable bases? Anything specific that we should look for?
Do you have to use memory foam mattress with adjustable? This seems like every one that we find comes with memory foam. Wife has it in her head that she hates memory foam.
Lastly, for aesthetic purposes, where can you find the faux frames that work with adjustable? It seems like all I can find is the bases, but we want something around the exterior so it doesn't look all janky. For some reason, I just can't find these in the interwebs.
After over a decade on tempurpedic, we went saatva innerspring. Great mattress for the money. Mail order, even hauled out the old one.
1) so much better if the room is cold
2) I forgot about the value of bounce and rebound in the boom boom room
Bold choice. I hear you on the bounce but foam is where it's at for me. The Tempurpedic I have is fucking comfortable.
Going back to an innerspring myself. 16 months on a piece of shit Tuft and Needle was too much.
During my move to Washington I spent 6 weeks sleeping on a Therm-a-rest set up on top of a cot, and my back felt worlds better than it ever did on the Tuft and Needle. After getting my old mattress delivered finally, I spent 2 nights on it before I flipped it up against the wall and went back to my cot.
I'm hesitant to even put it in the guest room, as the thing had a significant impact on my sleep quality.
Just bought a Casper. Packaging was demolished. Wish it was firmer. Fine otherwise.
I'm developing a dent on my side of the Pangea. It's been about 1.5 years... not sure how this will play out. It's still super comfortable, but I'm a little disappointed.
bingo...had it with my tempurpedic...calling up today to get another on the warranty deal and selling it cheap. the foam never resets...like sleeping in hole. back to springs....i get my best sleep in hotels that have traditional, good, firm spring mattresses.
yeah a "dent" is perhaps a better word than "hole"
I bought this mattress for dirt cheap and love it. Cheap enough that I can toss it in a guest room and not be pissed if I didn't like it.
https://dynastymattress.ecrater.com/...ntisbreeze-gel
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Ended up going with a Serta Hybrid foam/innerspring in a firm feel. Pretty happy with the deal I got, hoping the mattress will give me 5-7 good years of service. The other thing that sucked about the Tuft and Needle is that it's like trying to fuck in quicksand.
I loved the Beautyrest Black Hybrid I tried, but I can't bring myself to drop that kind of coin on a mattress at this point in my life.
^^^i agree...the deed is much better on some kind of spring mattress.
Mattresses are so personal. I have a T&N that I bought [very lightly] used a while ago and am sleeping great on it.
Polyurethane foam beds suck unless its for a guest room. It's about the cheapest stuff you can put in a bed and it breaks down giving you a dent.
Tuft and needle/capser/others are just a marketing shells selling other people's stuff. You can get something like it for less from a company like zinus or even costco.
There are plenty of great foams out there. After all the crashes I've had, I only get about 5-6 hours a night on a good bed. Energex seemed to be the best foam for me but good latex works well too.
No can do, it's a hybrid latex/memory/support foam layup. Flip it and you're sleeping on hard base foam. To be clear, I still sleep great on it and might actually find it more comfortable than new (it was too firm for my liking right out of the box). But if the dent continues and becomes a hole that's probably not going to be fun.
For those in the Bay Area, European Sleepworks in Berkeley makes fantastic mattresses (coils + latex foam + a wool layer), not cheap, but not nearly in the Dux-Bed price range either.
Any of you jongs have a Beauty rest Black Ice foam mattress? https://www.beautyrest.com/Black-Mem...ia-Luxury-Firm I ran into a wholesaler who said he can get me a new queen size for $600. Sounds either hot or to good to be true.
Eh, it's 100% foam so that pricing isn't out of question since cost is very low on those. Have you lain on one? Different foams sleep very differently. If you have the coin and the local demo spot to check them out, latex foam is the shit as it doesn't change with heat.
After reading this thread and doing way too much online reading we went with Avocado. I didn't see any mention of it here but we're super stoked. Springs, latex, organic cotton, and wool. None of the nasty chemicals, polyurethane, fire retardant, etc. 100% natural, easy 0% financing, free shipping and 100 day return policy with 25 year warranty.
I've seen them.
pros-
They are pretty organic and use... mostly good stuff.
I like the feel I got from 10 minutes on one.
I think you get a good deal for what you pay.
- no polyurethane
cons-
They are thin, you are getting at least 3" less mattress. How does it hold up if you are getting 30% less? They are cheaper because you get less.
Instead of glue that's illegal in 18 states because it gives you cancer, they quilt it. I don't think quilting foam works for very long. Nobody does it that way for a reason.
I have only seen one company use a water based proprietary (not solvent based) glue.
You still have to use fire retardant or its not legal. If they tell you otherwise they are not telling the truth.
wtf
I don't think I want to sleep on wool but some people may think that's a plus.
You can grow latex naturally on a farm?
I'm not sure about the longevity of their cores. Mattress warranties have lots of fine print. You usually have to sleep on the bed for 100 days before they are willing to take it back. As for the 25 years, you may have to send it back and have it rebuilt. Who does that? What are they going to do, duct tape it? Will they be around that long? I think the market is too crowded.