I get a kick out of whenever someone classifies the trails (or ski runs for that matter) they ride by the respective difficulty rating assigned to them…
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I get a kick out of whenever someone classifies the trails (or ski runs for that matter) they ride by the respective difficulty rating assigned to them…
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The "do you ACTUALLY test ride" thread has been pretty amusing. Seems 9/10 mtbr members are such experts on geometry, kinematics and bike setup that demoing a bike is of no value to them. Yet of course, when anyone starts up a "what bike to buy" thread asking for input on a couple specific models the common response is invariably "go ride both and see which one you like".
https://www.mtbr.com/threads/how-man...1202289/page-4
That hypocrisy is pretty well documented here too….
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Actually, we’re all legit semi-pro over here.
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I firmly believe this is the case with me. But, its because im such a beater and unknowledgeable, not because i am an expert at anything. The decision making that goes into my bike purchases is this: decide on a a 30mm travel range, ask around the bro-crew to see if anyone has an XL on year end closeout for stupid cheap. I am currently running a 9 speed drivetrain (used to be 11 before crashes bent sprocket teeth), and a very out of true rear wheel that has two massive dents in it so i run it with a tube, and im perfectly happy. Hell, i ran the OEM super crappy tires for 2 years before throwing on some MaxTerra rubber. Everytime ive tried to setup my suspension myself, buddies have called my bike unrideable... so i paid a chunk of change for a local suspension guru to fully service and setup my suspension last winter which was very eye opening how good my bike felt... havent touched a setting since.
Moral of the story, i think most people overestimate their abilities both on the bike and behind the wrench.
That's pretty much what I was getting at. There are some prolific keyboard warriors on that forum who talk a big game but half the shit they say makes you wonder if they really have a clue. I'm convinced most of them can barely tell their asshole from their elbow. But they will tell you they'll know just from the published geometry numbers whether a bike will work for them or not. Then in another thread they'll say something like "all bikes are so good these days, its really hard to go wrong." And then they'll continue to spend all their time hand-wringing and bickering with each other over trivial details on an internet forum. lol.
I dunno, I just fail to see how you can't get some useful data points out of a demo even if a bike isn't spec'd and set up to your exacting needs.
No doubt. I just live in a small market and don’t have many opportunities, so every bike I’ve ever owned was bought blind. I have gone to one Outerbike and ridden demos at Wydaho and random local demo stops, but only for curiosity. Those experiences can be useful when I start shopping again.
It’s mostly worked out. I’ve never had a bike I hated, but I wasn’t sorry to move on from my SB5.5.
This thread has promise....front break delete
https://www.mtbr.com/threads/front-b...#post-15639190
Meanwhile I'm putting front brake on my dirt jumper b/c 40+ = no bar spins. Unless you're doing barspins I don't get the brakeless movement and even then there are options. Not MTBR, but I posted a stoke video on a FB video of a big log bump jump and got a bunch of keyboard warrior MTBR types telling me I shouldn't have bottomed out my fork, not enough air pressure, how many tokens am I running, etc.
Maybe it’s just me, but riding bikes > telling people on the internet they’re riding bikes wrong.
I live next to a state park with 10-12 miles of rolling punchy mixed use trails all green level. I dont ride it on my slayer. I ride it on my fully rigid single speed with bald tires and only a rear brake. Makes it much more exciting and challenging that way even if there are some 100' sections of trail i am literally unable to stop on. Sometimes i wonder if i should throw on a front brake... but i dont want to spend the money/time and sometimes a handicap is needed if the trail is so easy it becomes boring.
Back when I used to ride whistler all summer we'd have a front or rear brake go out every so often. If we didn't have what was needed to fix it we'd just lap A-line with a single brake. No front brake was definitely sketchier but was a good learning opportunity. Wouldn't want to ride with no front on trails that have other users on them though.
I did 24hrs of Canaan when I was younger, back in like 95 or something, and it rained and rained and was so muddy the front wheel, fork and brakes kept packing up with mud, so at the end of the prologue loop, i stopped, pulled the front brakes off, handed them to my buddy, and rode the big loop without.
My kid swore that using a front brake was stupid when he was growing up (technical trails - Moab, Steamboat, etc, going fast). Then he grew till he was more than 120 pounds and he saw the light.
I’ve ridden plenty of long tech rides with the front or back break not working. Ya just gotta think ahead.
It also helps if you hate traction.
This just in - Some folks on TGR lurk in the MTBR forums.
Do you not worry that someone from another forum will read one of our Bushwacker threads and think we are all retards here?
Fair points.
I did just get chastised by a mod for being a bit of a dick, though.
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Does MTBR actually still exist? Kind of shocked about that. What's the point of it now?
Good way to kill some time at work… haha.
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Nice! Watched a couple of those, but only ever participated in the 24 hours of Snowshoe. Eventually got moved again because they never learned that those regions are essentially rain forests until August/September. Enchanted Forest at SS never fully recovered.
Nope…bc he was there too…and met the same results.
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Today’s gem.
I really can’t wait to see where this one goes.
“This is somewhat of a cross post from the So. Cal. section:
I thought I’d share the stupidity with you guys. Maybe I’ll get lucky and this effing idiot will read this. Sometimes I take a short connector trial from Felton Street, up over the hill and onto Potrero Road before I go down into Sycamore Canyon, in Newbury Park. It’s a pretty non technical, sometimes flowy trail with a couple steep rocky sections. Today I decided to take a short ride, and ride over to Potrero and then ride it back to Felton. On the way back I came around a corner before the steepest rockiest section and there was a guy riding a mountain bike, pulling his son up the trail with a motorcycle tie down. His son was on a small kids mountain bike. Dad was on his right side of the trail, his son was on my side of the trail with the tie down spanning the middle of the trail. I wasn’t going fast. But, it was steep enough that I wasn’t going to be able to stop in time. Luckily there was enough room on the right that I was able to counter steer my way around the kid. And, then I hear, “you fucking asshole”. The first thing I thought was, what in the world did I do wrong? The second was, if I stop and engage this idiot, I’ll end up kicking his ass right in front of his kid. Which honestly, dad fully deserved, but the kid didn’t. So, I didn’t say a word and just kept going. Then, I thought about the mess it would have caused if I wasn’t able to get around the kid. I would have gone through the tie down, over the bars, dragging both of them down the hill. It wouldn’t have been pretty. And, a mile away is the paved and wide Black ***** hill in Sycamore Canyon that he could have towed his son up and down. I mean, I thought I had seen it all until today.”
That guy is a fucking tool. He’s also a moron. I remember a thread from 8-10 years ago where he insisted that (then) modern bikes with slack front ends needed to be ridden off the back. Presumably he imagined that he needed to counterweight more mass up front.
I'm impressed that a dad is towing his kid up a trail that is apparently so steep that it's impossible to stop while descending.
Oh, I am sure the thread has already devolved into ebike speculation.
Edit: just checked, not yet.
Last week they were finally solving the clipless vs flats debate.
This week they are tackling whether 20 year old bikes are just as good as today's bikes. https://www.mtbr.com/threads/20-year...hines.1218265/
Thank god they can finally provide definitive answers on these important topics so we can all move on with our lives!
You two trolling pretty good. Though love the guy talking shit on Remy riding clipless!?!
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I'm pretty snarky over there. But I have ridden with dozens and dozens of people from here, but only a handful from there.
It’s about even for me. The northern Rockies aren’t all that well represented so I’ve run into people here and there and recognized them from their posts. I’m still friends with a few people who don’t post there anymore. I go through phases where I can’t be bothered to check in, and it feels like one’s coming. But most of my riding circle are not online at all.
I actually met SFO Tex on MTBR when he lived here. We palled around for a while but I lost touch with him when he moved to SLC.
A post like this is pretty much a daily occurrence on mtbr:
"Hey I'm an genius and I while I was searching google for deals found this website Rokshoxforxshop.com that no one has ever heard of before, and they have forks for 93% off msrp. They also sell furniture and leather goods. I looked up the address listed and it's a vacant lot. Has anyone ordered from them?"
Classic!
Another classic...does removing a few loose rocks from the trail constitute sanitizing it? But sidetracks into the more important argument of what is a babyhead, with its own companion thread.
https://www.mtbr.com/threads/removin...heads.1222277/
https://www.mtbr.com/threads/baby-he...ition.1222303/
it's always funny seeing people take the trails they ride and then apply those rules universally.
There is such a variety in terrain, land management, moisture, culture, etc. among the different areas, the only answer that fits universally is "it depends"
Hell on the same trail, I have vastly different approaches to maintenance because one section is in old growth and another section is in a recent clear cut.
What is blatant "sanitation" for one area may be considered "routine maintenance" for another.
I feel for people whose riding is enlivened by a random cantaloupe-sized rock in the middle of the trail.
This.
I like to poke over there every once in a while to get some trail ideas or see what people are doing to their /insert my model bike here/ to customize it, etc..
Which, I know some bikes do OK with over-shocking, but they ask for every bike... like can I over shock my high tower and put a longer fork on it...
and surprisingly few replies say: you know SC makes that bike, it's called a megatower.