lazyasian - thanks for the screenshot. That helped a ton -- turns out I couldn't see those prices on Google Chrome on desktop or mobile, but you can see the prices on Safari (mobile). $407 out the door. Fingers crossed.
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lazyasian - thanks for the screenshot. That helped a ton -- turns out I couldn't see those prices on Google Chrome on desktop or mobile, but you can see the prices on Safari (mobile). $407 out the door. Fingers crossed.
This is making me smile. Cheers maggots!
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Fack yeah -- beers on tharmor! Anytime you're in CA, holler - you got at least a 12er coming yer way.Quote:
Originally Posted by tharmor
Whoop, glad others have gotten in as well. Tharmor you're a legend! Definitely got a 12er for you if you're ever in Vancouver as well.
Just got an email that the order is shipped - let's hope the box does indeed contain the 2.0s!
All of the copy is for the older RS, even with the new pics. Wonder what people will end up with?
Good question. My order clearly says white/black/lime, so here's hoping...Quote:
Originally Posted by trogdortheburninator
Damn. Cant find the 2.0 on there anymore
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They are here: https://www.freezeproshop.com/scarpa...ski-boots/path[offset]:1/path[search]:scarpa/shoe-size:128752
in 27 and 28 for $582 shipped to the US.
Thanks, tharmor, lazyasian, and meter-man. I ordered the 29.0s. For those that took advantage of the CampSaver deal, have any of your boots shipped? (I ordered them Friday midday and, while I've received an order confirmation, they haven't shipped yet. I'm a little worried it was too good to be true.)
Mine shipped on Friday. Should be arriving today according to the tracking info - I'll let you all know whether they come as 2.0s or 1.0s!Quote:
Originally Posted by AKbruin
2.0s. Woot! \m/
Heel cup is cavernous. Not woot. :cussing: AKB, they're yours if I can't get em to work. [ETA see post below re: heel cup. I wuz wrong.]
ETA:
- They're light as a fairy slipper. Noticeably so over the 1.0.
- Buckles are slick and low pro, but the lower "buckle" looks certain to ice up with its cable closure.
- Walk mode lever **looks** too much like CNC'd Plum aluminum to give me comfort. The first RS had lots of walk mode problems - query whether this will too? Haven't seen anything negative on this yet.
- Vibram tread looks really thin. I won't be surprised if the tread gets chewed up 2x as fast as the 1.0, given that it **looks** half as thick. (I'm not going to measure haha)
- Fit: instep feels a touch lower and toe box/last width feel about the same - at least on my super-scientific carpet test. Heel cup is...bowl-like. Noticeably more open than the 1.0.
- Flex: it's like a Doberman made babies with a TLT....... just kidding, no idea, I didn't ski em.
- No more stupid hinges. Twas awesome for getting in and out of the boot, and pulling liners, but I repaired those damn hinges way too many times.
- Liner: Intuition. Feels stiffer than 1.0s, but my 1.0s are probably just beat, so not really sure on this.
Anyhoo - looks like a sick boot!
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2.0s!
Those are sweet. Anxiously waiting some review info here! I have the original RS. This is the upgrade year if these are the ticket.
Fresh and Deep.
Hmmm, v1.0 was already too low for my high instep, so had to go Zero G.Quote:
Originally Posted by meter-man
2.0. My 26.0 attempt was a mistake. It’s a 1 finger shell fit maybe and a full upper body workout just to get my foot into the boot with the liner.
If any of you want this size and want to cover $408 plus shipping to you, I’ll pass along the good deal. If not, I’ll just use the free return policy. Or I’d trade straight up for 26.5 or 27.0 if anyone was lucky enough to score the same deal on that size...
All this talk of the huge heel cup is real bummer.
so does the new Maestrale RS fit like last years Maestrale RS and if not why not ??
Mine seem to be the same fit. But I have yet to get them molded to my foot.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX-er
I am here for the stoke
I'm a little bitch about heel cups (wide foot, narrow heel), and usually need L-shims on the ankles in my boots, so take my comments with a grain of salt. Plus, I haven't molded the liners. Or skied them.Quote:
Originally Posted by auvgeek
Found this on the liner and forefoot width:
"I got in touch with the brand, here's what they said about the forefoot width: "The new RS has the same last, (101mm width), as the previous version. That being said the boot shell interface has changed, the liner is updated (Intuition Cross Fit Pro Flex G), and the use of materials in the lower are all new (Pebax & Carbon Garilamid LFT). Once heat molded (which we advise all end users to do so) the fit should be almost identical to the previous version." https://gearjunkie.com/scarpa-maestr...ki-boot-review
This suggests I'm wrong on the heel cup. Any real bootfitters up in this piece?
I wonder if Scarpa spec'ed a real intution liner OR a liner made by intuition to scarpa's spec's
which they have done in the past??
Per LeeLau, post #335 in this thread. ETA: that's for the 1.0.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeLau
Interestingly, some similarly-named liners are on sale on Scarpa's webpage: https://www.scarpa.com/pro-flex-g-liner
Pending deal to suprechicken!Quote:
Originally Posted by SupreChicken
SupreChicken:
If the pending deal does not work out, I'm interested.
Dave
Griz@xmission.com
Thanks for the hookup SupreChicken
Does anyone else find the new Maestrale liner really hard to get in the boot now that the hinge is gone? If it feels this tough at room temperature I'm worried that things will be really tough on cold mornings during multi day winter camping trips...
Easier in, 1put it in walk mode and pull back the shell. I got mine the other day via the freezepro... liners feel great as is not sure I want to mold them.
I pulled the trigger on the freeze pro shop deal too. It wasn’t nearly as good as the campsaver deal but my shoe size is too common I suppose. Nevertheless, I am super anxious to get them. I had to go with the 27.5/28.0 shells since the 26.5/27.0’s were sold out there too. Now I am panicking a bit since that size might be too big. Fingers are crossed.
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So...I've got to eat a pound of crow, or wish myself three days of mank as penance, or whatever the skier's equivalent is.Quote:
Originally Posted by meter-man
I've got both the 2012 RS (1.0) and the 2017 RS (2.0) on my feet as I type this. I inspected the heel pocket more closely. The heel pocket appears to be more similar to the 1.0 than I first realized. IMO, for my narrow-heeled foot, both are pretty open - about equally so anyway. So, I'm not sure my earlier comments regarding a wider heel cup stand (I will edit my first post). Long story short, you should try em, but if you were happy with 1.0's heel cup, the 2.0's is quite similar. Apologies if I led any of you astray.
Other differences I haven't mentioned:
- Flex: done at 63*F at home on the floor. 2.0 is stiffer in the forward direction. Noticeably stiffer. The 2.0 also does not go as deep into the flex as the 1.0. WIN!
- Liner: the 2.0 liner goes a tad (1/2"?) higher in the sides and back than the 1.0
- Weight comparison done on my home scale - 2.0 (size 29): 1564g (stock, except swapped out stock footbed for Superfeet) v. 1.0 (size 29): 1877g (same Superfeet footbed, "boot board" to take up volume under liner, ankle L-shims, and Booster strap). 2.0 is significantly lighter.
[ETA that these weights seem unduly high; maybe my home scale sucks?]
Next report hopefully will include some actual, real-world testing...
Anyone need a 1.0 RS in size 29?
1.0
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2.0
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1.0
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2.0
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I got mine today in the post from freeze pro shop. As I was and am still worried about the right size I pulled the liner out to do a shell fit and it nearly destroyed my soul putting it back in. And this was at room temperature. There is no way those are getting back in on a yurt trip. Forgive me if I come across as a bit chapped but I nearly lost my f%#^ing mind getting them back in. The good news? They aren’t the right size - and it’s pretty bumming.Quote:
Originally Posted by lazyasian
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Ah man, that sucks. To be fair though, I had a hard time getting the 1.0 liners back into the shell after I replaced the hinges. If these are worse . . . well, that'll suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by tharmor
Mine are due from CampSaver in a couple weeks.
Put it in walk mode - then it should take 5 seconds. It is harder than the old one, but not that hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by tharmor
It was indeed in walk mode with the hinge fully retracted to the back. The problem for me at least was the tongue. It doesn’t get out of the way and the heel opening is so narrow that the liner can’t easily slide back in. Maybe it’s just me but it’s not like a traditional three piece boot design in that regard.Quote:
Originally Posted by meter-man
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They aren't. I haven't had any issues with it in walk mode.
Pulling and putting liners in is a battle, I have to push in and mash the liner heal to get them in, I tried a intuition pro tour liner that was in my dalbello sherpa in the rs went in way easier and could actually pull my foot out with the liner on with a good forward kneel. The pro tour liners even felt better than the scarpas but then my scarpas haven't been molded. The pro tours that I pulled from dalbellos and put in the Rs i had on my feet for about an hour today and were comfortable.
The Scarpa stock liner even after baking tore the inside of my heels up pretty bad. I threw an Intuition power wrap from my Dalbello Kryptons in there and it feels amazing, no friction anywhere in the heel pocket and great hold. Will get them out for a walk this weekend and see how they do. I also like the extra volume across the shin with the wrap, as compared to the Scarpa liner which required cranking the top buckles.
The heal of the liner getting all torn up is what I’m a bit concerned about. Would duct tape or any sort of adhesive make this less concerning?
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Shoe gooQuote:
Originally Posted by tharmor
Sorry - earlier post was about the skin on my heel, not the liner itself. There's a portruding contact point somewhere in the heel pocket with the stock liner that is just not there with the power wrap.Quote:
Originally Posted by tharmor
The trick for me to get the liner (any liner) back in with ease is to pinch the heel with thumb and pointer finger and press straight down, while the other hand is fully inside the liner pressing all four fingers into the toe box in a horizontal direction. I do this with the cuff in ski mode, not in walk mode. But to put the boot on once the liner is in, having it in walk mode seems to be the only way. Compared to the TLT6, this is a real struggle. It leads me to believe that the TLT6 will still be a superior expedition/multi-day boot..can't imagine the difficulty of dealing with a frozen RS2.
I've had similar issues in the past with different boots including the o.g. mango maestrale. Trial and error showed that raising/lowering heel height with adding/removing shims under the liner or footbed seats the heel in the shell's pocket in microadjustabley different ways...it took a bit of dicking around but I could usually get it 'just right' after a bit of time without having to rebake liners, punch the plastic, add L pads, etc... just a first step in some home mods though, in other boots like the garmont megaride i had to get the shell punched to form a perfect pocket for my heels and in other boots like the garmont axon a new thicker foam intuition wrap liner ultimately did the trick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solesides
I had the same thought when I tried putting them on, still looking for tips. I think the next best thing is to put it in walk mode to give more space.Quote:
Originally Posted by lazyasian