The chainsaw thread...

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Originally Posted by karpiel

Use a Husqvarna 455 rancher, takes about a week to cut a semi truck worth of logs into 16'' rounds working at a very casual pace, biggest logs are usually around 2'6'', which is annoying with a 20'' bar. I really like it, good vibration dampening, light, rarely stall it and always easy to start in the morning, larger fuel capacity would be nice though.

I'd kill for something that could handle a 4+ foot bar, might invest in one next year. I bet I could cut the whole load in a day no problem. It's not like I'm hauling this thing up a mountain.

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A buddy of mine just scored an MS660, nearly new, on craigslist for, get this... $400. Even used, that saw in that condition would fly out the door for $1000. I've never gotten a good explanation of how that occurred, but the basic idea seems to be that it was sold out from under a guy getting divorced. I know for a fact that that stuff happens - I had an ex-gf give away a guitar and amp that I left in "our" apt when I bailed. Went back 2 weeks later to get my stuff and it was gone. Anyway, the whole point of this is to say that a 660 will do just what you asked for and you can periodically find screaming deals on craigslist. Same guy just bought a skid with about 2000 hours on it with a supposedly seized engine for $1200. All it needed was a starter. I wish I could be half as lucky as that dude...

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Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw

Jonsered makes some nice saws too. A couple have turbos which really come in handy if you're cutting at altitude.

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It Is pretty much a husky some of the part #'s are even the same altho some things they try on a jonsered don't make it into husky production so the local husky dealer tells me AND actualy Husky own a number of other companies the names of which suprised the hell out of me

Brands owned

Global brands:

Husqvarna
Gardena
McCulloch
Diamant Boart

Tactical brands:

Jonsered
Poulan
Weedeater
Dixon

Regional brands:

Klippo
Flymo
Zenoah
Bluebird

and they own electrolux, make firearms and sewing machines

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Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw

A buddy of mine just scored an MS660, nearly new, on craigslist for, get this... $400. Even used, that saw in that condition would fly out the door for $1000. I've never gotten a good explanation of how that occurred, but the basic idea seems to be that it was sold out from under a guy getting divorced. I know for a fact that that stuff happens - I had an ex-gf give away a guitar and amp that I left in "our" apt when I bailed. Went back 2 weeks later to get my stuff and it was gone. Anyway, the whole point of this is to say that a 660 will do just what you asked for and you can periodically find screaming deals on craigslist. Same guy just bought a skid with about 2000 hours on it with a supposedly seized engine for $1200. All it needed was a starter. I wish I could be half as lucky as that dude...

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660 is a heavy ass saw for cutting fire wood out of 30 inch rounds.

If you aren't cutting hard wood a 440 or 460 or Husky 372xp will do the same and will run a 32 inch bar no problem.

For $400 thats a great deal.

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Originally Posted by char

660 is a heavy ass saw for cutting fire wood out of 30 inch rounds.

If you aren't cutting hard wood a 440 or 460 or Husky 372xp will do the same and will run a 32 inch bar no problem.

For $400 thats a great deal.

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No doubt, although since handling one a bit, it's not as heavy as I imagined.. But I did a days worth of felling on a 25 degree slope a few weeks ago and didn't wish I had a heavier saw... lol. I run a 460 myself and that's only because I do all my cutting above 10,000'. But if you want to run a 48" bar and rip through stuff without trying like karpiel mentioned, I'd go for the 660 myself, even at sea level, and especially if I didn't have to hike, scramble, or climb with it.

Got a Husky 435 coming for Christmas. I very seriously considered the pro models, and the bigger landowner models, but in the end decided to go with small and relatively light. It will be occasional use for brush cutting and storm cleanup. I'd like to fell a couple trees, but nothing over 14", and not without some help from a more experienced friend with a bigger saw. I'm just stoked that I don't have to borrow a chainsaw anymore.

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Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw

The 362 is a nice saw. On the smaller side of Stihl's pro saws. People seem to think the 390 (mid grade) is an upgrade from the 362, but it's not.

What kind of condition is it in? If it's not nearly new or nearly dead you'd be looking at:

TGR - $350
IRL = $400
Trade in - $300

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Never been started so....

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Originally Posted by char

660 is a heavy ass saw for cutting fire wood out of 30 inch rounds.

If you aren't cutting hard wood a 440 or 460 or Husky 372xp will do the same and will run a 32 inch bar no problem.

For $400 thats a great deal.

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I think in my situation weight wouldn't be an issue at all, it would basically be used once or twice a month, and would allow me to get cords split, loaded and delivered effectively twice as fast.

still have all of all of your fingers?

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Originally Posted by karpiel

I think in my situation weight wouldn't be an issue at all, it would basically be used once or twice a month, and would allow me to get cords split, loaded and delivered effectively twice as fast.

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If you're with a Husqy 455 now, you'll be looking at way more than twice as fast with a 660. You'll cut through 26" diameter logs pretty much as fast as you can get somebody to set them up. If that's really your biggest round, and you live at some sort of reasonable altitude, you could just go with the 460 and a 28" bar and get almost the same effect for about $700 less. The Husqy 455 is only 3.5hp. The MS460 is 6hp. The MS660 is 7hp. IMNSHO, the 460 is the sweet spot for power and weight. Unbelievably, it's only 2 lbs heavier than your husky for nearly twice the output.

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Originally Posted by karpiel

I think in my situation weight wouldn't be an issue at all, it would basically be used once or twice a month, and would allow me to get cords split, loaded and delivered effectively twice as fast.

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If you are cutting it to sell, you are going to cut into your profit margin just in terms of the amount of fuel you will burn in a 660 or 460.

441 will have better fuel consumption.

But, if you want a expensive, big, heavy, fuel sucking saw to run a 36 in bar in softwood, by all means, have at it. If you really want to do it fast, just run a 32 inch bar (effective length = 28 inches) on the 066.

Disclaimer: I have a fleet of around 20 044/440/441 series saws at work and 2 660's. The 660's don't get out much.

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Originally Posted by telemike

still have all of all of your fingers?

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Sure do!

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Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw

If you're with a Husqy 455 now, you'll be looking at way more than twice as fast with a 660. You'll cut through 26" diameter logs pretty much as fast as you can get somebody to set them up. If that's really your biggest round, and you live at some sort of reasonable altitude, you could just go with the 460 and a 28" bar and get almost the same effect for about $700 less. The Husqy 455 is only 3.5hp. The MS460 is 6hp. The MS660 is 7hp. IMNSHO, the 460 is the sweet spot for power and weight. Unbelievably, it's only 2 lbs heavier than your husky for nearly twice the output.

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My lot is right at 9000'. This is really helpful, I'm a complete chainsaw jong, before this all I had was a homelite electric for trimming small branches at home.

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Originally Posted by karpiel

Sure do!



My lot is right at 9000'. This is really helpful, I'm a complete chainsaw jong, before this all I had was a homelite electric for trimming small branches at home.

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Stihl says the carb adjustment maxs out at 9,000'. The 460 will be great. The 660 will be incredible. Only you can decide how much money to put into incredible vs. great. Brand new, the 460 is about $1,000 and the 660 is about $1650. Deals are there to be had - download the craigslist alert app for your phone. Also, get a <$50 bench mount chain sharpener and a depth gauge tool.

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Originally Posted by stfu&gbtw

Stihl says the carb adjustment maxs out at 9,000'. The 460 will be great. The 660 will be incredible. Only you can decide how much money to put into incredible vs. great. Brand new, the 460 is about $1,000 and the 660 is about $1650. Deals are there to be had - download the craigslist alert app for your phone. Also, get a <$50 bench mount chain sharpener and a depth gauge tool.

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Can't you have a shop reset the carb. limiter caps for your altitude?

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Originally Posted by char

Can't you have a shop reset the carb. limiter caps for your altitude?

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Yep, you can jet the carb, but there's no making up for the power loss - you can only burn so much fuel for X amount of o2. Jetting the carb only keeps it from running rich. But I cut at 10 - 11K' and just run it stock - it runs fine. But for the 2 stroke gas engine, altitude power loss is 3.5% per 1000' ASL. The math on that SUUUUUUUCKS.

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Originally Posted by char

If you are cutting it to sell, you are going to cut into your profit margin just in terms of the amount of fuel you will burn in a 660 or 460.

441 will have better fuel consumption.

But, if you want a expensive, big, heavy, fuel sucking saw to run a 36 in bar in softwood, by all means, have at it. If you really want to do it fast, just run a 32 inch bar (effective length = 28 inches) on the 066.

Disclaimer: I have a fleet of around 20 044/440/441 series saws at work and 2 660's. The 660's don't get out much.

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Just saw this post - you got a pic of your fleet? That sounds awesome! And yeah, the 441 will consume less gas, but I've heard of many carb issues up until this year. I wouldn't get a used one. But you'd know better than me - do a lot of carb work on those 441s?

They had a problem with the routing of the fuel line and the fuel lines getting eaten by ethanol.

Ours run fine. Most prefer the 440/044/046 though because of the springs between the handlebar and powerhead on the 441. Can make falling a pain in the ass unless you run only the 441 all the time.

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Originally Posted by char

They had a problem with the routing of the fuel line and the fuel lines getting eaten by ethanol.

Ours run fine. Most prefer the 440/044/046 though because of the springs between the handlebar and powerhead on the 441. Can make falling a pain in the ass unless you run only the 441 all the time.

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Yeah, the spring handles are sweet. What about the 441 makes felling a PITA?

I usually run a 460 for falling. I used a 441 a couple times just to try it out and my cuts were less precise. IMHO the springs provided too much play between the handle and the powerhead/bar. I'm sure over time I could get used to it.

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Originally Posted by Powder Ho

I usually run a 460 for falling. I used a 441 a couple times just to try it out and my cuts were less precise. IMHO the springs provided too much play between the handle and the powerhead/bar. I'm sure over time I could get used to it.

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Interesting... really never thought of that. Never ran a 441 for more than dicking around with somebody elses saw.

Did nimble nuts delete the 6 pages of drivel about being a well dressed chainsaw fashionista?

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Originally Posted by shirk

Did nimble nuts delete the 6 pages of drivel about being a well dressed chainsaw fashionista?

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I did - but just in case there was any doubt about who the cunts are - nice job dragging the bullshit into last year's thread as well. :rolleyes2 Why don't you douchebags start your own thread about how much you hate PPE?

People don't hate it.

Some people just have an opinion that if do everything right you might only need certain items of PPE.

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Originally Posted by shirk

People don't hate it.

Some people just have an opinion that if do everything right you might only need certain items of PPE.

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Fuck! "Do everything right" - why didn't I think of that?!

I am totally doing that from now on.

The right thing would be to delete, perhaps.

Thread back on topic, any of you have bench top chain sharpeners?
Harbor Freight Vs. Oregon, etc?

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Originally Posted by rideit

The right thing would be to delete, perhaps.

Thread back on topic, any of you have bench top chain sharpeners?
Harbor Freight Vs. Oregon, etc?

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I have the generic harbor freight/northern tool $40 model. Works great.

Anybody ever spring for one of the expensive ones? What do you get for an extra $300?