Compared to say a DPS RPC or some of my other similar skis like a Soul 7, the medium stiff GPO is on the soft side. Softer than a Rossi Soul 7 for sure and stiffer than a Super which shocked me. Thought the Soul would be softer than the Super.
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Compared to say a DPS RPC or some of my other similar skis like a Soul 7, the medium stiff GPO is on the soft side. Softer than a Rossi Soul 7 for sure and stiffer than a Super which shocked me. Thought the Soul would be softer than the Super.
Finally got my 192's!!!
Still playing with them but the dimple isn't that bad. I may drop back 1cm at most. Comparing to my 196 renegades, 190 DPS RP112 and 187 blizzard bonafide.
Also the hand flex on the med-stiff is nice.
Much better than the DPS which I find feel like they want to fold under you and they are softer then the rens
Few GPO pics. From the quiver pic thread.
I have 192's. I like the bases that were selected. I have robin egg blue sidewalls.
As I stated before the flex is really nice and the shape is amazing! Great rocker profile.
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One of these things is not like the others... And all of the new GPOs is bumming me out as I am completely jonesing for my 193 MVPs... Also, looking forward to several reviews on the GPO as I already have 191 BillyGoats that I love, but am really digging the new GPO and have a strong feeling 192 GPOs will be added to my already large overlapping quiver... Man I am so digging what Keith and the crew are doing at Praxis...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bird Blaster
Seriously. What the hell was DPS thinking? Such overkill; I can't imagine how poorly those must ski. Anyways, the GPO is looking very very good and I can't wait to make some room in the quiver for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertow
I would have to agree. I was such a DPS fanboy, but I think I was on the 112 about 5 days total last year. It is too soft and the aggressive rocker might be TOO much. I am hoping the GPO will be what I wanted the 112 to beQuote:
Originally Posted by ego7man
I will likely downsize from my 192 into a 187 as I attempt to go sub 190 on all skis in the quiver. 192 med/stiff mounted at -2 for 310 BSL for FKS.
Used 2 days, big boy chargers, small nick on one topsheet from ski base slicing into topsheet. Otherwise immaculate. Seemed better than gearswap. Anyways just downsizing, since the design is money
Depends who you are and where you're skiing them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ego7man
After 180 days on them in powder trees... they do not ski poorly [tails wheelie out too much though]. They carve groomer like a mofo as well, but that is of no use to me.
Side-by-side 'comparisons' to the GPO has kind of surprised me though. One is a FWT ski, the other most certainly is not.
I'll bite. I'd guess they were thinking, "hey, this shape is super versatile because it rips on groomers (short turns, at medium speeds) but is also really easy and intuitive to ski in POW. That's gonna be appealing to 90% of our customers, so fuck dawg, lets go sell the shit out of some skis."Quote:
Originally Posted by ego7man
It's not a cruise missile, but it doesn't have to be; DPS has other skis in their lineup for that. They're not perfect, and I think the Praxis GPO improves on the shape, but your average - above average skier would/and should be stoked on a 112. Seems like DPS's thinking was actually pretty sound.
I may be in the minority, but on this day, and many other days the 112 rated as 'better than OK' :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by ego7man
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Not usually one to participate in a pissing match, but:Quote:
Originally Posted by ego7man
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The exaggerated best and worst comparisons never cease to give me a laugh.
If you had gpos you might have hit it from the top, not like a pussy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Power_Sauce
sent from the future using my mind powers
They ski poorly in the hands of a poor skier and great with a good one just like any other skis. If you can ski you can ski and if you can't you can't. It doesn't really make much difference what are strapped to your feet. Good skis will make a good skier smile, but they won't make a bad skier any better.Quote:
Originally Posted by ego7man
I don't know about that. I would consider good comp skiers to be the best skiers on the hill. They are technically sound, ski everywhere fast, and throw tricks. I'm sure the rp112s would fold on any comp skier skiing anything but freshies. They're super soft and have an exaggerated rocker so I'm sure they kill it in the untracked, but any "good skier" would not be smiling after skiing fast in anything other than ideal conditions. I think a poor/average skier would really enjoy the rp112s because they do low and medium speeds very well as well as excel in untracked conditions. I'll stick to my RC112s, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wetdog
I agree with that. Flip side is if you can ski, a really good ski mounted correctly can make a good skier work a lot less and enjoy the ride a lot more. Really good skiers can adapt to damn near anything with a tip and tail. Doesn't make the ski easy or fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wetdog
Some seriously good skiers never even leave the ground, let along think about skiing terrain like 'comp skiers' would. And they are happy skiing at speeds which wont result in death if they hook a tip on a buried branch and then hit a tree.Quote:
Originally Posted by ego7man
All you really needed to say was "aggressive powerful fast comp skiers would not enjoy the RP112, it would probably fold on them"
Washer woman pirate avatar, nice!
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Originally Posted by neck beard
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I guess a picture is worth a thousand words, but this is a Praxis GPO thread after all.
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Turn'um or burn'um...your choice :)
Came back from vacation and my GPOs were waiting for me at the post office.
187 medium+ carbon layup.
They are damn near identical to my automatics in shape, when you put them base-to-base the differences are so small you only see edge, no base. weird how such small differences make for a 5m longer turning radius for the GPO.
The flex is also very very similar, the GPOs are the slightest bit softer right at the tip but they stiffen up quickly, both skis feel about the same in the middle. The automatics have a really soft and heavily rockered tail, which I was never a fan of. The GPOs keeps a round, stout flex through the tail (a bit stiffer than the tip). this is what I'm most stoked about.
as for the rocker, both skis have the exact same tip height, just a different "curve", the praxis' seem to start a bit earlier. the tail on the GPO is a lot lower, which I really like. The automatics have tons more camber, which I like because it makes them lively/poppy in the untracked and they can rail on soft groomers. it will be interesting to see how much of a difference this makes on the snow.
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as far as the mount goes, I was expecting a way bigger difference. the mount point on the automatics is pretty far back by most standards; I mounted mine at +1.5 and am pretty happy with the way they ski. If I were to do it again I might go +3 or so because I don't feel like there is enough support from the tail, but the GPO seems to have solved that problem.
lining up the autos at 1.5 with the dimple on the praxis', the GPOs tip is about 1.5cm behind the auto, and about 2.5cm behind the tail (the autos are 186, and measure out to be exactly 1cm shorter). I'm thinking about mounting them -1cm, but not 100% yet
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anyone else notice the signature?
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Awesome comparison to the Automatic fiend. Just what I was looking to confirm about the tail stiffness. By my calculations, mount should be 1.5 to 2-cm forward on GPO compared to Automatic but that includes some small assumptions on my part and other people's measurements that have been published on here and blister. Order placed for Flex 7.
Care to share those calculations?Quote:
Originally Posted by 98brg2d
So the DPS RPC is stiffer than the med - stiff GPOS? Is that the pure 3 construction? Anyone else able to comment on this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dane1
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