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what’s your experience with the Com 108?Quote:
Originally Posted by K1mJ0ngTr1ll
bumps? Trees?
I am a traditional more technical type skier and spend time runnning early season groomers before other stuff opens up. I am looking for a nice 1 ski solution. I’m on the kore 99s now and I really like them but I am looking for something a little better on ice? I think the Com would be better with the metal layers.
Just curious about your style and experience on the mountain with them.
Not saying there might not be others who’ve had your experience, but I ski the 2019 model 190cm and have not experienced any tip dive that I remember. I’ve been digging the ski so much this year that I’m questioning whether I really need a different, dedicated powder ski. Mine are mounted on the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVC
Maybe you’re driving it too hard? I’ve adopted a more centered stance for this ski, so maybe that’s the difference.
Center stance does help but its a small window for my bad technique.
I agree K1M about the woodsman 108. I skied them for 8 days then dumped them on Ebay. I wonder what the poor bastard in AK thought about them. ON3P is a hot ski at our local resort. I have got 2 skiers this season to hang them up for Wildcats.
Oh man Love my DWT, I went with 184, and have no trouble with tip dive in pow. Honestly hung on to my other touring sticks just to see if I want to use them in the spring and honestly at this point can't see why I would want to switch.
I saw posting about people trying to organize a buy for custom PB&Death. Looks like that never materialized. I am 100% in if people wanted to get that going again. Been skiing Deathwish 184 this season and love the skis so much I am dying (pun) for a thinner Deathwish.
Fasa told me that custom ordering is on hold right now but maybe a group buy could get this done and have them for next season
I have found I definitely prefer a touch more traditional shape and mount.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyansFaith
I think because of the weight of the Commander 108 being a bit heavier it maybe a little better on ice, but it is wider than your Kores.
I avoid bumps like the plague but ski a fair bit of trees. For being such a stiff ski they are actually quite easy to pivot. The tail is strong but doesn't kick your ass. They do like to go fast and the harder you push them the more they shine. If you have good technique you'll find these to ski quite easy in tight spots. I was a touch worried they would be a TON more ski than my Mindbender108 but didn't find this to be the case.
I did move the mount up to +2 per fasa as I wanted a bit more pivotability for my style. You do lose a bit of stability but the ski is so stable I still feel like I have more than enough. If you like a more traditional ski I would say keep it on the recommended mount.
Overall It's my favorite ski in the quiver and my DD.
Current Quiver:
Mindbender108 186
20/21 Comm108 188
20/21 WC 190
Protest 192
I tried to like them, I really did. Just wasn't meant to be. Had to detune the shit out of them to get them not to hook but still wasn't in love. Although I ended up on the Comm108 I much preferred the WC 108 over the Woods108.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVC
How do the mindbender 108’s compare to the wildcat 108’s?Quote:
Originally Posted by K1mJ0ngTr1ll
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Benders float better and carve better but are less balanced in the air, dont like to spin and are not great for skiing switch and the benders are maybe a touch more damp.Quote:
Originally Posted by poleplant
If you are a more playful skier that likes to ski fast the Wildcat 108 is an excellent tool.
If you are more directional and dont spin or ski switch the MB108 is an awesome ski. The thing I've always liked about the minbender is that it is very forgiving while being pretty damp/stable.
The Commander feels like a mb108 with more gas/stability with a touch less forgiveness.
Thank you for the info I have the wildcat 108 but I’m always looking to add overlap.Quote:
Originally Posted by K1mJ0ngTr1ll
I love how fast and playful the cats are with an active ski style.
I’m kind of looking to add a ski that will ski just as fast or faster, but with less skier input.
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I would take a strong look at the Commander.Quote:
Originally Posted by poleplant
Plus next years graphic looks sick.
190? Did not like the 184's, went w a 190 dwt and loving it. 5'10 185 ski fast af with zero techniqueQuote:
Originally Posted by MVC
Thanks, I will be lurking for a pair then. I love the Kores but could use a little more width and stiff for crud. I am also considering the K105s.Quote:
Originally Posted by K1mJ0ngTr1ll
What bindings are you using on the Deathwish? If you had something with a flatter ramp it may help you get more centered. I started setting up my pivot 18s with the toe spacer to achieve -1mm ramp instead of the stock -5mm, and felt more balance being more upright.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVC
I've lurked on this thread forever as I demoed a DW several years back for an afternoon at Kirkwood and liked. Plus I'm a Slayer fan so there's that. Anyhoo....
I have a Scott Punisher 183 (either 108 or 110 waist, not sure) for soft snow days here in the PNW. It's a good ski. I love the ski in medium, low density snow. It also does pretty damn well on groomers. But I noticed in the last amazing storm cycle we had that once the chop warmed up a tiny bit the Punisher can get kicked around. I'm not getting any younger and don't want a super heavy crud/chop killer that is demanding to ski. I also tend to avoid really stiff tails. Anyone happen to have skied both the Punisher and a recent vintage DW to compare? Assuming that's unlikely... thoughts on a DW to replace the Punisher to deliver better in heavier snow/chop while still being easy to ski and doing everything else well. I don't really want to add another wider ski to the quiver (116+) as I don't think it would come out that often (ski a lot with my kiddos currently). So the options in the 108-112 range are optimal I think. thanks.
Sounds kinda like a softer Belafonte... would like.Quote:
Originally Posted by astewartconst
are these the Slayer themed tops on their website? Pretty sweet...Quote:
Originally Posted by K1mJ0ngTr1ll
I would love a Vic Rattlehead themed stick.
Pivot 18 turned way down little guy and older. Thanks for the pointer. I am sure if I went with a longer DW ski length it would help but man that would be allot of tail to ski. WC I am thinking is more my ski in the moment line.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdadour
I’m new to the Moment family, looking forward to getting these mounted up this week!
DWT 184, thinking -6.5 mount
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Anything with triple camber I would mount OTL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Falcon3
I’d be in. Love my old AF pbj. Don’t love my frankenski.Quote:
Originally Posted by astewartconst
On that note I have a minimal use 182 20/21 frankenski w/ 1 mount that I’d move to an interested mag.
Im in.Quote:
Originally Posted by astewartconst
We are not making a PB&Death and not going to do a group buy with a ski that we can not test and refine.Quote:
Originally Posted by astewartconst
New skis drop 8/1.
I think you guys will be stoked about what we came up with.
Ahhh this happens every year...... I'm gonna be sitting here playing the "what could it be" game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melee
I guess the positive here is that I have never been disappointed.
That was a very polite way of saying for fuck’s sake...Quote:
Originally Posted by Melee