Is this supposed to be about Gary Robbins? Never good at sports?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdironRider
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Is this supposed to be about Gary Robbins? Never good at sports?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdironRider
as someone thats raced wam, ive been annoyed with all the will it/wont it but his take was informative. i unfortunately think the event will sell out given the utmb name and 'stones' available. i also think itll be mostly non-locals and would be a little embarassing for anyone part of the scene to support this.
i found it wild that races are acquired like businesses. also that utmb stole most of the route! interested to see what competing race he comes up with.
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Love the way this cat lays it down!Quote:
Originally Posted by Buster Highmen
I guess we need to post a sports resume before we do any bitching.Quote:
Originally Posted by frosted flakes
My under 12’s soccer team won the league in the fall of 1988.
Do the math, that makes me 47, soon to be 48. Squarely middle-aged and pretty young over here on the Tgrz these days.
What are we bitching about, or shall I say what is Gary bitching about? Oh yeah, he’s bitching about Ironman. No not the race distance, but rather the Condé Nast owned race organizers that have infamously been fucking anyone and everybody for a decade. I raced 3 of their races including a World Championship, and I think that’s a fair assessment. No fun jelly.
What is the fascination with racing at Whistler? Surely there are other suitable venues.
I imagine things like access, parking, lots of lodging, etc. It sure seems like a great place for a race to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanoT
Unless these races are charity events (which lots are) they are businesses. An entrepreneur builds a race over years and a brand name. You can keep making money off of it, or sell it. What is sketchy (according to Gary Robbins) is that he built this race, UTMB offered to buy it, and he refused. So they took it, with Vail collaborating.
But yes it will sell out. The same way people want to do Ironman and all the other big races. Bragging rights at the office.
I like doing trail races, but the entry fees have gotten kind of to the point where if I am going to a race a group of like 3 friends, we can take the $600 total fees and go do something super fun like [/hookersandblow].
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Originally Posted by ktoor
https://slate.com/business/2023/12/e...poly-cost.html
No hudge insights in the article, just interesting to see in a mainstream publication.Quote:
Epic Fail: How a corporate duopoly ruined skiing.
With all this Vail CEO talk, I gotta wonder how my relative that moved there in the early '80's is fairing with Vail. He seems to love the place and the culture of the place. I'm sure Nathan is feeling some of the pressure, but alas he's a rastaman and probably couldn't care less.
Anyone know my relative, Natron Smith at Vail?
I remember when he moved to Vail from Madison, Wisconsin and his Dad was really concerned with his "life" choices and smoking cannabis frequently.
Early 80's? He's probably living well in a paid-off house/condo sitting on millions in equity. And he's probably still smoking lots of weed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnjam
yep, he's invited me many times to visit, especially for spring skiing, I have yet to do itQuote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
When I was 5 and my dad was driving us through vail I suggested we buy property there.
Ok good chat I guess I'll get to work now.
You should do it. How do you feel about $250 lift tickets?Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnjam
:D
Does Vail have "buddy" passes? I look nothing like Natron so I couldn't just use his season pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by skaredshtles
I have no idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnjam
I avoid that place.
'Cause Vail sucks.
:fm:
Last time I saw him he was super haggard, injured, trying to sell art and highAF and drunk. That was probably 5 years ago and I can't imagine the pandemic treated him well. He's like a loud white washed up wannabe rasta.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnjam
https://www.vaildaily.com/news/nate-...ion-at-a-time/
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“I’m a white guy doing Indian art, but it flows out of me like a river in the middle of the night. It’s like somebody’s there pushing my hand,” he said.
Yep, that's him. Last time I actually saw him in person was in Boston at our mutual cousins' wedding.Quote:
Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark
If being an injured haggard artist was a crime I wouldn't still be among free living maggots.
Driving thru CO in a few weeks and it's looking like I'm in for a day at Vail.
Is there any sort of discount out there for Vail so I can give them less of my $? Will be skiing on a Tuesday. TIA
I think there is advanced purchase of find someone with a buddy pass or ski with a friend on their Epic? Those don't help much
Discount for single day at Vail????!? Hahaha 🤣
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You could take stand up like that on the road and make a fortune…
fact.
I figured as much. Fwiw, I was able to get a day ticket to PCMR last year for around $140 day of. Peaks hotel sells some sort of ticket for charity but it makes sense Vail, CO aint playing that game.
Ongoing, VR now wants the town to pay $1.2M in attorneys fees AND they are appealing the condemnation.
https://www.summitdaily.com/news/in-...attorney-fees/
This is not as April Fool-zy as Unofficial thinks it is. Modern day Disney and VR would be a good match.
https://unofficialnetworks.com/2024/...-vail-resorts/
It would be kind of cool to ride a roller coast up the hill instead of a chair lift.Quote:
Originally Posted by This End Up
https://www.disneyfanatic.com/disney...ki-resort-lh1/Quote:
Originally Posted by This End Up
Apparently they planned to build a ski resort a long time ago.
Walt financed Sugar Bowl Ski Areas development and helped Squaw secure it's Olympic bid in 1956.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyg82
I always thought the elevator lift to get into the tram at Squaw felt like a theatrical Disney ride experience. I wouldn't be surprised if Walt had something to do with that too.
https://www.sfgate.com/disneyland/ar...e-16372725.php
Looks like the gloves are coming off.
Councilmember Tamara Wallace said, “I was willing to take a soft approach on the parking agreement in order to be a good partner on the annexation, but that was obviously not an approach that was amenable to Heavenly or Vail.”
She went on to propose canceling the parking agreement, enacting permit parking in the Heavenly neighborhood, and putting up parking barriers on Ski Run Boulevard during ski season, “Until they come back to the table with a letter of support for annexing, at this point, the whole mountain.”
https://www.tahoedailytribune.com/ne...ail-a-message/
The global ski resort behemoth is cutting 14 percent of its corporate staff after a tough year. But will its new business strategy affect your ski experience?
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Despite the cost cutting and revenue woes, Vail Resorts continues to eye expansion and acquisition.
https://www.skimag.com/news/vail-resorts-layoffs
^^^Hopefully all of this means they won’t be interested in buying Mt Bachelor from Powdr. That would be going from one ring of hell to the next one
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
Lynch walks with a 2.2 million dollar severance package and all of her stock holdings become vested on her last day.
She had a tough job trying to make the board happy, skiers happy, while maintaining share price. Not making excuses for her but she had some no win situations, and it is easy for the board to let her take the fall for what were some inevitable bumps in the road that were attacked with old school business principals that failed to take into account the reality of today's environment. The PC strike was catastrophic but I wonder how much rope she had going in. She did what had to be done in the end and now she is gone.
We'll see how long this white boys club back at the helm stock price bump lasts. I bought a few shares in the 130's just to dance with the devil. I agree it is a step sideways.
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Her handling of the PC Patrollers negotiation was criminally incompetent. Huge brand value hit plus a big labor cost increase pretty much systemwide. Didn’t need to happen but management had to show who had a bigger dick - turns out it was the employees…
I see in The Stash that some real estate billionaire made an offer to buy PCMR. Unlikely to go anywhere but another sign the wolves are circling
Their largest source of revenue is ticket/epic sales, but they forgot to focus on the actual skiing part. Fuck them.
Hasn’t that been their mantra from day [emoji637]?Quote:
Originally Posted by jackstraw;[emoji[emoji6[emoji640
..... Its been that way since the late '80s .. I witnessed it first hand when I worked there.
Looks like Rob Katz is doing what every incoming CEO does - Reorganize!
Instead of organizing geographically they will organize around “Customer Experience”
Destination resorts - Vail, Beaver Creek, Whistler, PCMR and Breckinridge
Regional resorts - Crested Butte, Heavenly, Stevens Pass, and Stowe.
Local resorts
Other than North America
Problem solved!
https://www.powder.com/news/vail-new...lassifications
Maybe PCMR should have its own category, in an effort to not further taint any of the others.
Would not be surprised if the number of days available at each ski area on Epic are are also in correlation with these different designations.Quote:
Originally Posted by tang