Yeah. Would be more fun if it was a nice drop I'd say!
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Smith and Morehouse trail is pretty fun. Some smooth sections, some very not smooth sections.
I hiked it to the split with the Erickson basin trail on Sun, wanted to ride it but my neck was still not screwed on right. Looks like it gets steeper after the fork, how much HAB was involved?
The lower 3 miles looked like a lot of fun with a few sections that require some bike pushing and some savage rock gardens.
"Smith and Morehouse trail is pretty fun. Some smooth sections, some very not smooth sections."
ahem...um please read title of the thread, this is the Wasatch thread.:D:D:D
Was just out in the Uintas camping the last couple of days with the dog, kayaking and hiking...shoulda brought the bike too, not sure what I was thinking...its pretty out there.
...in regards to the rockgarden I dont think it is any harder but think some of the lines changed from the rains...seems different every time...never bothered to walk it and figure it out...Ride it maybe a handful of times so its usually plinko/choose your own adventure riding....One of the, if not thee most sustained rock gardens in the Satch, she's a gem.
Get outta here with your rules!
I explored both splits just a little ways. They both got pretty HAB'y at the split. I gave up on the left split pretty quick, lots of trees down and it was overgrown. The right split looks like it sees more traffic but I only went up that for a little ways before turning around, the dogs were getting maxed out on distance. Great trail for the dogs though, lots of water and you probably won't be going all that fast in too many places. I've been up in that area before on foot but came in from the mirror lake side, there's good fishing in those lakes up there if anyone is into that.
Interesting. Ms Boissal and her parents have hiked around that area a ton (they have a cabin in the canyon) and laughed at me when I mentioned biking up there. They don't enjoy pushing their bikes along as much as I do though. I think both options past the split get significantly shittier and would make for long sections of HAB but might be work exploring. The right fork to Erickson basin is shorter, rockier, and steeper but if you make it to the basin you can bomb down Shingle creek or make it into a loop past Big Elk and Island Lake then go downthe SmithMoorehouse fork, it would be epic.
I haven't done any hiking along the middle and main fork of the Weber, I imagine it's super chunky. Dry Fork to Sand/Fish lake is similar to Smith Moorehouse but with more assholes on horses...
Current plan for 4th of July weekend is a 5-day road trip to Sun Valley. Looking for reco's for a ride in SLC area on the way up. This will be July 1 (next Weds). Prefer high elevation, backcountry type riding. Hike-a-bike ok but prefer not to do a major bushwack. I am on vacation!
In the past I've done RAT, Southern Skyline loop, Perry/Ben Lomond/N Skyline, Wasatch Crest loop on similar stopovers. I'll have self shuttle capability but a loop is probably the best option time-wise. I figure I'll have 9 hrs or so for a ride, likely getting in mid-day. Will have lights if needed. Would be best to not drive a huge distance from the freeway.
Anything worth riding south of Orem? Fishlake NF? Would trails east of Mt Nebo be open - I think there was a fire there last year somewhere? Open to other suggestions for not to miss rides.
Will likely stop in near Cedar City on the drive home.
Opening day was sweet. Two laps
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Shhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, Squaltamish slabs, looks so good!! How the shady stuff doing up there?
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Really pleasant up high in PC tonight despite the dust bowl and somewhat painful temps at the trailhead. A few snow patches here and there above Shadow Lake. I had never ridden Scotts Bypass. don't think I've ever seen brake bumps that deep, they could gobble up a person and you'd never see them again. Guess the Crest via Guardsman beater train is running full speed...
Of note, Gretchen the grouse has either returned from the dead as Zombie-chen or has an equally ill-tempered relative who lives at the bottom of Apex. I was looking at my phone trying to find a mellow way down as my ribs were killing me when I spotted the fucker who trotted over 100 yards to pick a fight with me. I lost patience after trying to get my stuff back in the pack while holding the bike and dodging the angry bird and kicked him pretty hard. He rolled into the brush and came right back at me. I have a feeling you could kick that bird over and over and he'd come back until he gets killed. Amazing determination. Probably what happen to the OG Gretchen...
I took off down the dirt road leaving yet another triumphant grouse behind and damn near rear ended a fucking cow. I've just about had it with the PC critters!!
"How the shady stuff doing up there?"
Catherine down to Bird is good ...Devils Castle, Supreme, Cecret areas are snowy...maybe a week or so?
Wish I hadn't opened this thread, got me all nostalgic like.
Evdog - How much of that 9 hours do you want to spend riding? Is there an amount of vert you have in mind?
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There’s a large moose hanging around the meadow just above The Gnar on honey. He eventually got out of my way but ran down the trail with me for a bit then gave me some dirty looks when I asked to pass.
No specific time or vert requirements. Just want to ride something high quality! Found an old Springsproject TR and was able to sleuth out the name and location, so I may do that. There is some desire to ride RAT again also, with the proper ending this time.
what is RAT?
Ride around Timp
Ah, cool. Haven't done any riding down there but I probably should.
Last I heard the GWT descent from Big Baldy pass was in pretty rough shape between the washouts and overgrowth, but that was a few years ago. If you liked the Timp riding you'd enjoy the other riding in American Fork. Starting at Tibble Fork res. going up Mill Canyon to 157 to South Fork Little Deer Creek to 157 to Tibble Fork DH is a sweet 4-5 hour loop.
Have you ridden anything in BCC besides Crest? Days Fork and Honeycomb are both awesome and could be combined into one ride.
One of my favorite trails in the Wasatch is the Alta Dry Fork section of GWT in upper AF. Incredibly scenic and a rad remote descent. There's no easy way to ride it through, especially without a shuttle. One big loop I've had my eye on for years is to start at Snowbird, ride up to Alta and Catherine's Pass, descend the ADF trail and some jeep road to Mineral Basin, then climb back up to Hidden Peak and descend the Snowbird BMT. Though, now that I've typed all that, there may still be too much snow for this still, but it's worth checking LCC webcams.
All that said, I wouldn't fault you for just doing the Ben Lomond traverse again. That's the crown jewel of Wasatch riding as far as I'm concerned.
Thanks DTM, that gives me some options to look at! I think I have paper maps for most of the area now.
The only ride I've done in BCC is the Crest. Once from the Mill Creek side doing the Crest the wrong way, and once from Park City side (Guardsman actually) doing the loop the other way.
Yep.
Catherine’s to 157 to Holman is pretty high on my list, just logistically challenging.
Has it been a while since you rode it? The last time I rode that section I wasn't in a rush to do it again. Washed out, deep moto rut. That was probably 2 seasons ago though.
Pretty sure I last rode it in 2017. That sucks to hear. It always had some moto ruts but mostly the fun sporty variety.
Spent some time looking at maps last night. Those rides all look awesome Dan! From webcams it looks like higher elevations above Alta/Snowbird may have too much snow. Snowbird lists Big Mtn as closed. The other ride I'd seen that looked cool was Santaquin Peak. But that's even higher. South facing aspect, though.
Need to dig into trail conditions a bit more. Likely identify some rides that have nearby, lower elevation options. I think a second trip this summer is in order. SLC is an easy trip for a 4 day weekend.
We did the alta to American fork canyon ride last fall. Left a car at tibble fork and got a drop off at alta. The descent from alta on 157 was pretty chewed up and rocky, but it was actually pretty fun. 20 miles. Alot of type 2 fun. Going to do it again this fall.
Apologies in advance for the thread drift but would anyone in and around SLC have a lockring tool I could borrow to remove a chainring on a Shimano direct mount crankset? Looking for a ParkTool LRT-4 or Shimano TL-Fc41, 6-pack of your choice if I can come pick it up, swap the rings, and return it to you. I don't even need to take it with me, I'll do that stuff in your driveway.
I can't find one in stock anywhere around SLC and with the COVID delays I don't think I'll get it delivered for 1+ week. I promised Ms Boissal that I'd put together her new bike in no time, including the oval ring for her creaky knees, and obviously didn't check that I had everything I needed.
Santaquin Peak is a good time, especially if you pedal the road up to the Loafer TH from The Grotto so you can do the Bennie Creek DH at the end. A lot of HAB going up but good descending going down. Unlikely you'll see anyone up there. Snow should not be a problem.
I'll join Boissal on the thread drift. Anyone in the SLC area have a headset bearing cup press I could borrow in exchange for a 6-pack or something? Need to install a ZS44/56 in a carbon frame and don't want to hack it up with a homemade solution.
Also, to add something of value to the thread, apparently someone ripped out the signs halfway down bobsled. Not sure what that's all about.
I made my own out of bolt, washers and nuts, worked pretty well. You can use it or just swing by me and we'll install your headset
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I'm climbing BMT to Hidden Peak Sunday 8am from White Pine.
all this talk of Ben Lomond...Pleasant evening with some cloud cover.
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Out n Back starting from bottom of Pioneer East trail, all clear to the top. Few branches need to be trimmed.
FYI North Ogden Canyon road is closed/under construction. It is possible to drive up or pedal to the North Ogden divide TH from the Ogden side but you may get ticketed or run off the road by an angry semi truck driver. Seems kinda silly to shut the whole road down when the construction is on the Nordic Valley side.
Brush fire in Lehi near Corner Canyon. Houses evacuated, Red Flag conditions this afternoon.
Article says it was started by fireworks. C'mon people, it was super windy last night.
Stay safe everyone.
https://www.ksl.com/article/46770371...saturday-night
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