I’m not making a value judgement. Just hoping for change.
We killed millions of buffalo for sport.
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I’m not making a value judgement. Just hoping for change.
We killed millions of buffalo for sport.
Not really for sport. To starve the plains Indians into near extinction.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
For most of human existence most people have eaten anything they could get. Only recently in a few places have people been wealthy enough to be selective.
If I ever met a Buffalo hunter I’d hate them too.
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Lol, even a picture perfectly summarizing the new year for China has IP theft in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rideski
Perfect.
Is that deadmau5?
what the fuck are you talking about mr I’ve never been to China? Chinese have been eating game for millennia and there was demand long before “globalization” as a modern term. Everything but the oink and anything you can get is the way people ate for all but the last century.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
markets with abundant game for sale appear in the poorest of 3rd world countrys; its a double humped chart where it’s prominent at the poor end, and becomes trendy at the very rich end, but not so much in “the middle”.
butchered animal parts shrink wrapped in plastic on foam trays are the consumer end of a high quality supply chain that consumers trust and not uncommon in europe, us. If you don’t trust anyone watching someone hack up the chicken or cow or pig allows the consumer to judge quality(does it look dieseased?
Double humping is at the root of the issue.
fucking aussies exporting their camel meat to the us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rideski
dunfree is so angry about everything. Life deal you a bad hand? Sorry.
Just going by what my gf and her university educated (Chinese) family tell me.
I’m taking about exotic game. There has always been desire but no demand.
“Since the early 2000s, China's middle class has been among the fastest growing in the world, swelling from 29 million in 1999 (2 percent of population) to roughly 531 million in 2013 (39 percent of population). Compared to other large, emerging economies, this growth is particularly noteworthy.”
Your confrontational approach to discussion is lowbrow and wreaks of personal angst.
You are so butthurt when people point out you are full of shit. That you rely on the word of rich connected commies who’ve never known a fucking peasant that wasn’t a servant in their life is the point. You see a feature to brag about, I see a bug.
people need to eat to live, wild game requires less capital to procure - no investment in raising necessary. The poorest Markets featured wild game ime because it was “easy” to get and Wild game is/was a staple of developing world markets the world over. If you’ve no capital it’s something you can procure and trader/barter/sell to someone else.
Gentlemen--you are talking past each other. Poor people eating every part of every animal and everything else they can manage to get their hands on or afford is one thing. Rich people eating exotic food because of its novelty is another. They both exist. Not--I've never been to China but I do watch TV.
I think personal angst/anger management issues are ok, should be taken for their merits and hopefullyQuote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
something witty will be written ... instead of the usual dreck
edit: eva go fo dim sum and eat chicken feet ?
I think the issue is not do much eating exotic animals.
As it is the appalling hygiene in China.
I was there for 4 weeks and I've never seen a dirtier place anywhere, including Africa.
In trains, people eating chicken and throwing the bones of the floor.
In xiang, in a nice hotel, 4 Chinese business people, well dressed, spit on the carpet in a restaurant.
Shanghai, signs in taxis: please do not spit in the taxi. And you know this is prevalent if they have signs in.
Anyway, the standards are so low that it's not surprising the diseases that start there.
And of course the concentration of people.
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Originally Posted by rod9301
That’s not chicken.
And some would say not removing phone spam tag is bad hygiene.
So far we have bats, dromedary camels, and snakes as potential targets as the og vector, so I think it's safe to say it's unclear at this moment whence it came.
Diamond posits in Germs, Guns, and Steel that most viruses come from intimacy with the source animal, so I'm going with the camel.
I spent 2 weeks in China once. I’ve lived in Africa, and Latin America and there is no comparison. The streets were modern but empty, the rivers welled with garbage, the sky was smoggy everywhere. The worst part was not the canine takeout in cages on the back of mopeds, but how they treated women. It was appalling.
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I saw this article linked in a email newsletter this morning:Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Chinese criminal gangs spreading African swine fever to force farmers to sell pigs cheaply so they can profit
Report by state media says some offenders are leaving infected feed in sties and are even using drones to spread contamination
Pork prices have spiked as a result of the disease and gangs can profit by getting around controls to smuggle meat across provincial boundaries
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/poli...eid=d0dbc231d7
Or, Chinese state media blaming criminal gangs for high pork prices when its the result of govt policy. Just a thought.
I know a lot of Chinese women. Dozens as a matter of fact. Many have started and are successful in business here in the USA, also ("Chinese women make up 57% of the total number of self-made female billionaires"). I've never met a Chinese woman that gets pushed around. If anything Chinese women are pushy and demanding to a person. Way more than any other asian ethnicity or even caucasian women. Now, if it sounded like they were fighting or arguing all the time that is probably true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cono Este
Mao declared women 100% equal in every way and their labor laws are a model of feminism:
The Constitution of the People's Republic of China, which was enacted in 1954, stated that women and men should have equal rights. To promote gender equality, the Communist Party promoted the slogan "Women hold up half the sky" to illustrate the importance of women to China's economic success. The party and the government implemented policies ensuring equal pay for equal work and equal opportunity for men and women.
Chinese women, who make up 49 percent of the population and 46 percent of the labor force, have achieved a higher proportion in the top layers of management than women in many Western countries, said the report which mostly analyzed data on gender equality and women's leadership in the region.
"In China, gender equality embedded in communist ideology has mitigated the impact of Confucian patriarchy," it said.
Mao left behind gender parity as one of the good legacies of communism in China – unlike his 1966-1976 Cultural Revolution, in which millions were persecuted across the country – as he launched a campaign to get women to work outside the home.
The study said that in East Asia, "China leads in terms of women in senior management."
During China's economic reform period, communist values met the capitalist market system and a flexible business environment became the norm, it said.
"In this context, Chinese businesswomen thrive."
Important election in Taiwan. The Xi resistance love her (2x1 margin vote):
President Tsai Ing-wen declares victory in Taiwan election, opposition candidate concedes defeathttps://www.france24.com/en/20200111-taiwan-goes-to-polls-voters-factor-in-candidates-stance-china-beijing-hong-kong-taipei-tsai-han
The ones who didn't get thrown in a river as babies.
Did you give spook your login?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
Not if you’re a peasant.
My beer ran dry and my “minder” slapped the waitress. Then he scolded the kareoke gal and I was ready to sock the guy. It got ugly.
The Chinese businessmen all whored harder than anything I’ve ever seen. Young, young gals. I heard the rural people send their young daughters into the city and basically sell them to into indentured servitude as waitresses.
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Oh shit, this thread just got woke as fuck.
Those Chinese women sure do have it good.
Except for those in the concentration camps for worshiping at the altar of anything but the CCP.
Other than them, they've got it better than good.
Probably.
I met a Chinese lady who is here on and visa looking to get married instead of going back. If interested send me a pm for details.
Local guy with the virus just got released from the hospital.
Truth. But the idea that Chinese women are subservient and oppressed is absurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cono Este
That said, I’m watching some horrific and terrifying videos smuggled onto YouTube.
I know the consensus here. There is truth in a lot of directions. No one is innocent either.
Quote the whole post. Just like spook would. Lazy and self serving there bloke.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNWbrit
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Originally Posted by PNWbrit
Wait, are you accusing each other of being spook?Quote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
Did Spook get caught up in all this mess?
Pull through Spook, we're here for ya. Bring Bobby back with ya.
Praxis Rx...
The looked pretty subservient and oppressed, all five of them, forced to spend the night with a nasty old dude. TeenagersQuote:
Originally Posted by 4matic
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I go to Japan in two weeks.
I go to Japan in two weeks?
Really good roller blading thereQuote:
Originally Posted by huckbucket
Jesus dude what kind of crowd are you running with there and what kind of bars & restaurants are you going to? I understand that you were there for 2 weeks, and this was your experience, but it differs vastly from mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cono Este
I work for a Chinese company...I have for the past 4.5 years. They're headquartered in Shanghai and I go there 1 or 2x every year. In total I guess I've been there 6 times or so for about 10 days a pop. So I guess I'm getting close on over a month's worth of time spent in China. I always spend most my time in Shanghai, but have visited Chengdu in Szechuan Province 3 times (about a 3 hour flight west of Shanghai right in the middle of the country), and then a few days in Beijing as well. Aside from Shanghai proper, I spend a lot of time in the Zhangjiang Hi-Tech zone where alot of western companies have their campuses located, and also a few outlier "burbs" including Fengxian (closer to the coast) and Qidong (a bit north, on the other side of the Yangtze River).
Anyway, when I go there it is 100% a business trip. And I have never once witnessed this behavior of "Chinese businessman" that you have. Perhaps you just witnessed the behavior of what is known internationally as "assholes" which as we all know we have lots of the US as well. If any one slapped a waitress or whatever as you describe, they'd be kicked out of the place.
When I'm there, I've have company dinners and outings with our CEO, Chairman of the Board, VP's, investors...blah blah blah, and have never witnessed such behavior. If I had witnessed it...I doubt that I'd still be working for this company as that would make me super uncomfortable.
All my colleagues there are extremely professional...like you would expect to find in any Fortune 500 company.....of course there are always bad apples in the bunch that ruin it for everyone I guess.
A lot of my colleagues there have spent significant time in the US...either being trained in PhD or MBA programs in the States or Europe...work for a time abroad, then move back.
Can’t compare Fortune 500 people to the rough crowd cono este travels with in the butt plug and ball gag manufacturing business
haQuote:
Originally Posted by Core Shot