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That ski is def interesting, but the new Volkl 191 Katana will def be in my quiver next year... To this day the only ski I got rid and still cannot figure out why is my old 191 Katana which is still on of my all time favorite skis...Quote:
Originally Posted by skibrd
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Not going to lie - 98% of my skis in my quiver are 189+ chargers and bought the 181 Sakana this year and absolutely love it... I was spring skiing in Oregon last year and a dude I rode up on the chair with had a pair... I was on my 189 108 Wrens and he wanted to try them and we switched skis... We made several laps together and it had been a long time that I had been on such a fun ski... It laid trenches in the spring cream cheese we were skiing and I was grinning ear to ear... The Sakana does not have the halls that most of my skis do, but held its own and I did not want to give them up... I called my local shop the next day and the skis were ordered...Quote:
Originally Posted by Island Bay
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That and the M Free 108 have me intrigued for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by skibrd
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Do we know if the new Katanans have camber or not yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Undertow
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Friend at OR who fondled them today said the shape looks super similar to the Mantra M102, which would imply a little camber, but I didn't ask about that specifically.Quote:
Originally Posted by rob stokes
They should've just called it Mantra108 for consistency, but then all of us wouldn't have jumped on it as we are doing now.
I got to canoodle the 186 a few weeks ago, but no ski time. Told my rep it was the first Rossi I’ve been excited about since 2010, and he promised if you hate the soul 7, you’ll love this ski.Quote:
Originally Posted by skibrd
There’s been a bunch of patrollers in the I-70 corridor ripping around on these this year, testing durability on their new topsheet material. I think the best thing about them is they beefed up the longer lengths (Ti version), adding metal and keeping the sidecut from getting too short, so people who have a need for a 194 get a little more heft to go with the length.
Toss up for me: 194 Sender Ti, 191 Katana 108, or 192 M Pro? Sure do miss my OG legend 105’s, so...
Absolutely, have never once considered buying a Moment ski simply because of the garish vomit-on-a-ski graphics. Seems like they've toned it down the last few years though, fortunately.Quote:
Originally Posted by XavierD
^^^^yes..I still have my 191 and is my DD, but this new one is a “have to get” ski....excited to see proform price next fall...lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Undertow
For you K108 anticipators, the M102 has about 1-2mm of camber per ski, with very subtle tip/tail rocker. It's a great mix in how it flexes. The camber disappears instantly while flexed, and the stiffness kicks in the moment the ski is flexed... or placed flat. It skis like a reverse camber ski in soft snow, yet still has that extra touch to the snow when unweighted.
You reverse-camber die-hard fans need not worry. This flex & camber profile is 99% as loose as a full reverse camber and stiff ski. But then it adds this element of retraction for firm snow. They fucking nailed it. They kept the looseness in pivots while maintaining the grip on those steep icy entrances or firm environments where you need to shut it down and are praying for some contact along the edge.
It's like a sponge met a plank. Or, maybe we wrapped a plank in a sponge. The shape/flex replies to everything. And it feels/sounds like metal.
The Katana 108 is going to destroy the resort quiver. I suspect the 2021 Dynastar M-Pro 105 is still our beloved comp ski, though. Simply due to the Dynastar bloodline and the longer radius and flatter tail.
Two skis. One favors groomers, one favors comp exits. Both share the same medium range of everyday ripping.
Somebody needs to ski these two back to back in NZ this July/August.
Funny how that works. They've done some of my absolute favorites over the years (and some others that I don't care for).Quote:
Originally Posted by 1000-oaks
I can certainly see how they'd be polarizing though. Playing it safer would seem to make sense for the bigger brands.
anybody seen any of next years stuff from faction?
Local shop got a shipment of 20/21 M5's yesterday and the topsheets are pretty conservative yet pretty tasty to my eye. Will climb on the Katana next Wed.Quote:
Originally Posted by HAB
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Originally Posted by troth
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thanks
I graciously volunteer. Send Katanas, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by gaijin
Anxiously waiting for the feedback on these.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Thomas
Line catalogue is out. Vision 118 looks like a fun ski. I have been really enjoying the 108 so far. New Pandora 110 is a interesting lightweight option for the ladies.
https://issuu.com/lineskis/docs/line...0-2021-catalog
That new Line BBR, sorry Blade, looks mental.
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I've been skiing a proto of the Vision 118 and it is really great! Can't comment on how close it will be to the production version, but is light, nimble and has no speed limit in pow.
I have been skiing on the Rossignol Sender Ti 187cm all week and it is so sick. The 187cm length holds at speed on groomers, pow and chopped snow. 187cm is a bit short for me, but this ski can hang no doubt and I dont have any qualms about charging hard on this length. The 194cm length seems like it will be even better so cant wait to get on those next year. I hope to have a pair of the Sender Squads soon and will report back after I get some days. Really nice to see some hard charging skis coming from Rossignol.
Got to say I’m pretty interested in this katana k108.
Don’t give a fuck what it looks like!
This is as useful as most bike reviews stating “it climbs like a goat but descends like a downhill bike”Quote:
Originally Posted by Super G
This might be of interest
https://issuu.com/zuzupopo/docs/volkl_2021
thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Thomas
It’s completely lame as many of these catalogs are simply recycling / re-using photos.
The industry is cheap AF lately & their lame ass products reflect this.
So VTA line is gone in favor of Rise, with weight to be determined.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Thomas
Also although I like the rocker profile on this blaze series, the weight makes them more of a touring ski than a 'pure freeride' as they billed in tha catalogue.
But really all I care about is the K108 and matra vwerks.
I find that Blaze 106 to be really intriguing. Metal underfoot but nowhere else is a welcomed compromise. CAST on my Mantra 102 is quite the heavy 50/50 option. CAST on a Blaze 106 makes a lot of sense for morning resort pow and afternoon side-country. It's a modest, real-world ski (that will last you a decade) that costs less than either v.werks option and slots itself right in the middle of the v.werks suite for weight and width... Plus it doesn't have annoying carbon for those firm encounters at the resort.
(wait... is this actually the Gotama reboot that's just sliding under the radar? ;-)
It's the 50/50 ski.
Again, a debate in Volkl semantics, "Pure Freeride." We don't have to beat a dead horse here. 2020 is proving that Volkl doesn't know how to name skis or write the copy. That's okay. The engineers are piecing together some amazing and simple concepts.
Let's just all admit we want a Blaze 106/CAST in our lives. I think that's a fair admission. I think that's actually a slot in my quiver that I've been trying to fill for quite some time.
Anyone seen next year's Moments? rumours of a new core on the Wildcat, similar to the latest Deathwish core.
A little additional data on the blaze 106. I've heard that the it will retail for $600, a refreshing change for Volkl. As it happens a 186cm Blaze 106 showed up yesterday at our local shop so I might be able to take it for a spin tomorrow. Should be icy AF so the conditions will be well out of it's intended environ; always a good test. Will get rocker/camber pics today and maybe take it for a spin tomorrow. gaijin might be onto something about the 106 as a 50/50 with CAST/Shift/Duke PT. Their advertized weight, 1,779g aint far off of the BMT 109 (for reference my 186 BMT 109's weigh an average of 1,658 per ski, about a 100g less than advertized). If they aren't mounted yet I may try to drop them on a scale.
Smooth - Yeah, VTA and 100Eight/90Eight gone. Too bad on the VTA, that was a kick ass ski that nobody even tried. Will have a spin on the Rise series Wed/Thur
Had a look at the Blaze 106 in a 186 today. The one ski I weighed came in at 1,828g. More tip splay than I was expecting and fairly deep tip rocker, much less in the tail. Camber was pretty minimal, kinda like an M5. Tips not soft but not too stiff, tail was firmer and firm in the middle. Has a nice, roundish flex that's not what I would call burly. Shitty pictures below.
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I’m late to the party here. Is 186 the longest length?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Thomas
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So the line blade is a ripper. 150+mm tip it just lays trenches. Sakana like but with better grip. New katana is awesome, the addition of camber make it ripper you want. If you need a. 184cm full rocker lmk
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Have you skied these two skis? Can you elaborate a bit?Quote:
Originally Posted by japanada
Does anyone know new colors of sth2 13 and 16?
Same as 19/20, no color changes at Salomon except the addition of a black ShiftQuote:
Originally Posted by Sashka
Help an out of touch bloke like me. What's the intended use - if there is such a thing - of these things?Quote:
Originally Posted by japanada
Ripper on the piste but can still tear up week old cut up crud and chop or something I'm missing..?
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Fair enough. Let me know if you want specifics. Compared to the Soul 7 (which was flappy and didnt hold speed on groomers or chopped snow) the Sender Ti is way more stable and high performance oriented. While the Sender Ti are skis built for charging hard, in the shorter lengths I think they will be versatile enough for people that are not skiing balls out all the time and just trying to enjoy some mellow schussing--especially in the non Ti model.Quote:
Originally Posted by bamboocoreONLY
Does anyone know if Moment didn’t attend OR or if they’re just doing a good job of keeping people quiet?